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Howard

Lou Arab wrote:

David,

The boundaries have been changed. The new boundaries will be in effect when the election is called.

Will PC party members still be returning officers?

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Howard wrote:

Will PC party members still be returning officers?

The ROs will now be hired by the Chief Electoral Officer instead of being picked by the Premier's office.

lil.Tommy

Lou Arab wrote:

  • She appointed a Chief of Staff who walked away from $600,000 in business debts, including big debts to public institutions like the University of Calgary.

He was profiled on the National last night as a "king maker" since he also ran Nenshi's mayoral race.

BUT i think she is definetly placating the old boys and the conservative side of the party, the biggest percieved threat is Wildrose... she will likely pull some soft-right leaning liberals into her camp picking up Calgary liberals seats but has to try and stop any bleeding from the right. I'm actually relieved that shes still a conservative, more foder for the NDP :)

 

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Stockholm wrote:

From an NDP point of views - who do we WANT to win the Alberta PC leadership?

Honestly, none of them concern me too much, nor do any of them stand out as 'good' for the NDP.

The front runner, Gary Mar, is from Calgary and exudes an air of arrogance and privilage. He will be pretty easy to campaign against.

Ted Morton will likely do the most damage to the Wildrose party, which isnt great for the NDP - given that the Wildrose will peel off right wing votes that will help us win seats like Edmonton Calder and Beverly Clairview. However, the NDP is emerging as the most potent left of centre player in Alberta - if that trend continues, and the Tories pick a scary right winger - many voters may rally to the NDP like they did in the federal campaign.  It's also good that Morton is from Calgary.

Doug Horner is the only candidate from Edmonton, and having a PC leader from the north is generally tough on the NDP.  However, if he wins, the Calgary establishment of the Conservatives will likely flock to the Wildrose.

Alison Redford would likely put the final nail in the Liberal coffin - as the faux progressives might vote for her.  However, I think her election would trigger civil war in the PC party and put Danielle Smith in power.

NorthReport

Rachel Notley wins party balloting to become new leader of Alberta NDP

http://www.canada.com/news/national/Rachel+Notley+wins+party+balloting+b...

NorthReport

As soon as Alberta NDP picks a new leader today, the party's focus should turn to Edmonton by-election

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/djclimenhaga/2014/10/soon-alberta-ndp-pi...

NorthReport

New Democrats yesterday were ready for Rachel -- can Albertans reach the same conclusion?

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/djclimenhaga/2014/10/new-democrats-yeste...

robbie_dee

Who won the byelections?

jjuares

robbie_dee wrote:

Who won the byelections?


Last time I checked the PC were ahead in all four.

Adam T

P.C likely winner of all 4 byeelections.

NorthReport

So far Prentice has won I think. Calgary Herald is posting live results.

NorthReport
Adam T
Aristotleded24

The NDP look to be on track to receive over 20% of the votes and second place in Edmonton Whitemud, up from finishing with under 10% last time.

While not the best (and I don't know if the NDP being distracted by a leadership race drained resources that could have been put into that seat) it does show the NDP on the rise, and that people can vote for the NDP without fear of electing a Wildrose MLA. Hopefully Notley can learn from these results and build from here.

NorthReport

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Adam T

Final unofficial results http://results.elections.ab.ca/wtResultsBE.htm

Calgary Elbow

P.C Gordon Dirks 4,207

A.P Greg Clark 3,412

W.P John Fletcher 3,056

Lib Susan Wright 1,519

NDP Stephanie McLean 472

 

Calgary Foothills

P.C Jim Prentics 6,898

W.P Kathy MacDonald 3,545

Lib  Robert Prcic 458

NDP Jennifer Burgess 444

Green Polly Knowlton 261

A.P  Michelle Glavin 212

Independent 23

 

Calgary West 

P.C Mike Ellis 4,843

W.R Sheila Taylor 4,528

Lib David Khan 928

NDP Brian Malkinson 336

A.P Troy Millington 265

 

Edmonton Whitemud

P.C Stephen Mandel 6,003

NDP Bob Turner 3,150

W.R Tim Grover 2,679

Lib Donna Wilson 2,043

A.P William Munsey 202

G.P René Malenfant 95

 

Almost half the candidates in Calgary were lawyers.


 

jjuares

The Whitemud result is interesting. I live in that constituency. Suburban and affluent and yet the NDP did well.

Adam T

jjuares wrote:
The Whitemud result is interesting. I live in that constituency. Suburban and affluent and yet the NDP did well.

 

They had a star candidate.

NorthReport

Liberals and NDP rule out merger in Alberta to beat Progressive Conservatives

Some suggest the Liberals may just continue their descent into irrelevance, dropping from 29 per cent of the vote in 2004 to less than 10 per cent of the vote in 2012.

Some suggest the Liberals may just continue their descent into irrelevance, dropping from 29 per cent of the vote in 2004 to less than 10 per cent of the vote in 2012.

 

 

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/11/02/liberals_and_ndp_rule_out_...

Adam T

The NDP will likely end up as the center left party in Edmonton while the Liberals are the center left party in Calgary.

NorthReport

Prentice will probably win but he sounds like he has a lot of challenges as he approaches his first election as Leader.

So are the AB NDP poised to become the Official Opposition in Alberta? 

NorthReport

What will it take to elect New Democrat Marie Renaud as St. Albert's MLA?

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/djclimenhaga/2015/03/what-will-it-take-t...

robbie_dee

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/brian-jean-elected-new-leader-of-... Jean elected new Wildrose leader (CBC)[/url]

robbie_dee
PrairieDemocrat15

Adam T wrote:

The NDP will likely end up as the center left party in Edmonton while the Liberals are the center left party in Calgary.

You think so? The Liberals will be lucky to hold onto their one seat in Calgary.

Aristotleded24

PrairieDemocrat15 wrote:
Adam T wrote:

The NDP will likely end up as the center left party in Edmonton while the Liberals are the center left party in Calgary.

You think so? The Liberals will be lucky to hold onto their one seat in Calgary.

The NDP has been receiving a great deal of media attention under Notley, and I think they could do very well if they roll out a platform that addresses urban issues like tranist and housing. Their biggest challenge will be to break out of their Edmonton bubble and position themselves as a party that can represnt all areas of Alberta.

NorthReport

Danielle Smith gets her karma. What a looney toon.

Debater

robbie_dee wrote:

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/danielle-smith-loses-pc-nomination... Smith loses PC nomination (CBC)[/url]

Wonder what Danielle Smith is feeling like tonight?  She threw away a career as Official Opposition leader of Alberta by stabbing her own party in the back to do it, and then after all that she loses the PC nomination.

What she did was a monumental act of betrayal.  Almost unprecedented in Canadian politics for an Official Opposition leader to cross the floor and join the Government.

It would be like Tom Mulcair getting up tomorrow and joining Stephen Harper's Government!

I'm on the other end of the spectrum from an Alberta Wild Rose or Conservative voter, but I can understand how betrayed they must have felt by this whole thing.

Debater

Highwood PCs serve Danielle Smith her just desserts

Excerpt:

They scream when they hear the news Danielle Smith lost.

The Wildrosers don’t clap. They don’t cheer. They scream with unrestrained and unapologetic delight.

We’re talking scream.

They erupt with elation the very second they hear the news in a packed room in a northeast Calgary hotel.

And, for that moment, they don’t give a care what it means in the big picture of the provincial election about to begin.

They don’t analyze the outcome for an instant. They just enjoy.

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http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/03/28/highwood-pcs-serve-danielle-smith-h...

jjuares

Debater wrote:

It would be like Tom Mulcair getting up tomorrow and joining Stephen Harper's Government!


Actually it would be more like Trudeau joining Harper, you know pro-keystone, low corporate taxes, C-51. Soul mates separated at birth.

Debater

Well, no, because we are talking about Official Opposition leaders who join the Government.  Mulcair would be the equivalent at the Federal level.

But perhaps you're acknowledging that Justin Trudeau will be the new Official Opposition leader after October? Smile

Anyway, can't you keep your anti-Trudeau narrative out of just one thread for once?

jjuares

Debater wrote:

Well, no, because we are talking about Official Opposition leaders who join the Government.  Mulcair would be the equivalent at the Federal level.

But perhaps you're acknowledging that Justin Trudeau will be the new Official Opposition leader after October? Smile

Anyway, can't you keep your anti-Trudeau narrative out of just one thread for once?


Then your comparison is inane because the ideological similarities are the basis for the defection not because one is the opposition leader and the other is the head of the gov. I would think that would be obvious. But then you wouldn't have a excuse to produce this anti-Mulcair piece of nonsense. Oh I know you just picked Mulcair because he is the opposition leader. I believe you'. I really do.

Debater

There was nothing anti-Mulcair in what I posted.

What everyone in the country is talking about is the fact that a PARTY LEADER and OFFICIAL OPPOSITION leader, defected to the Governing Party.

Therefore, I was pointing out how shocking the equivalent type of switch would be at the Federal level.

You decided to turn this discussion into a partisan one by bringing in an attack on Justin Trudeau.  You read your own interpretation into something that wasn't there.

Anyway, let's try to stay on topic and focus on Danielle Smith and the impact this could have on Jim Prentice and new Wild Rose leader Brian Jean.

Debater

Danielle Smith apologizes after angry text to Global News reporter

OTTAWA — She came within inches of forming government in Alberta, then crossed the floor where she had to battle for her seat, but in the end lost it all. Now, former Wildrose Party leader Danielle Smith is leaving public life.

Asked Sunday afternoon via text message whether she had a few minutes to talk about Saturday night’s shocking upset, Smith responded, “No. I am leaving public life.”

A follow up message asked whether that ruled out any future runs for public office.

“P#ss off,” Smith responded.

She later apologized, saying her response was inappropriate and that she wasn’t ready to speak to the media.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1910180/angry-danielle-smith-tells-global-news...

voice of the damned

Debater wrote:
She came within inches of forming government in Alberta

I guess it depends how you define "come within inches" here. Seat-wise, she got 17 out of 87 seats, which is nowhere near forming government. In fact, adjusting for the lower number of seats in the legislature, the NDP did better in both 1986 and 1989. NEXT...

voice of the damned

What she DID do, however, is top the polls for the duration of the election campaign, which gave a heavy gloss of melodrama to the party'e eventual defeat. And that's what everybody remembers.

robbie_dee

In the face of [url=http://rabble.ca/babble/alberta-and-british-columbia/latest-alberta-poll... squirrelly poll numbers[/url] will Prentice delay calling an election this spring? Can he do so without totally destroying his credibility?

Winston

Debater wrote:

But perhaps you're acknowledging that Justin Trudeau will be the new Official Opposition leader after October? Smile

I'll admit that its possible that Justin Trudeau will be the Opposition leader who faces off against Prime Minister Tom Mulcair, but I still think it is more likely that Stephen Harper will get the job.

NorthReport

How wonderful it would be to see the PCs lose their majority government

The opposition's fantasy election, coming soon

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/braid-the-oppositions-fantasy-ele...

NorthReport

But in the scheme of things who cares who the opposition is, it is who controls the government that counts.

NDP boss Rachel Notley blasts Prentice and gains political traction

http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/04/01/ndp-boss-rachel-notley-blasts-prent...

NorthReport

NDP picking up seats in Calgary, now that indeed would be something. Hopefully the progressive opposition will coalesce around Notley.

As PCs and Wildrose struggle, Alberta NDP has real shot at becoming official opposition

CALGARY — Joe Ceci’s campaign office is ready for the provincial election call that most Albertans expect to come next week.

A former art supply store decorated with amateur self-portraits, the space has been cleared for the business of winning votes; big signs cover the windows, lawn signs lean against a desk, a bank of phones lines the wall, and a well-stocked candy bowl sits ripe for raiding.

It smells like paint. Fresh paint. Bright orange. NDP orange, in Tory-blue Calgary.

“It’s not futile,” Mr. Ceci insists. “I’ve  got a track record of working hard for people in this area, this riding. All seven communities in Calgary Fort were represented by alderman Joe Ceci for 15 years. So I don’t think it’s a futile effort at all.”


http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/as-pc-and-wil...

NorthReport

In politics timing is everything, and in Alberta it looks like the NDP has the right leader at the right time.

Battle erupts over who should pay for the province's financial crisis

http://calgaryherald.com/news/politics/premier-is-exaggerating-impact-of...

NorthReport

Could the PCs actually lose the election?

Alberta NDP cries foul over more cash for health ministry ‘public relations’

http://www.canada.com/news/edmonton/Alberta+cries+foul+over+more+cash+he...

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Alberta premier’s office shells out $13,000 for huge TVs

http://www.canada.com/news/edmonton/Alberta+premier+office+shells+huge/1...

Debater

I agree with you for once.

The Alberta NDP has a good opportunity right now and seems to be getting some traction.

And it may even be helping the Federal NDP.

jjuares

The Liberals are in trouble. They have an interim leader who used to be the leader but the party did not want him. As for the federal NDP being helped-absolutely. The morale in the NDP is high and that may have carryover to the federal scene. An NDP sweep of Edmonton may put a couple more seats in play.

NorthReport
NorthReport

Election call tomorrow?

David Young

NorthReport wrote:

Election call tomorrow?

Hasn't there been a news conference scheduled by Prentice?

 

Debater

Jim Prentice expected to call election today

Premier to make 'major announcement' at 10:30 a.m

Apr 07, 2015

Last week, Premier Jim Prentice was asked once again what reporters have been asking for months: When would Albertans go to the polls?

"Well, I think we should all enjoy the Easter weekend," he quipped.

The months of speculation should finally end today, when Prentice is scheduled to appear at 10:30 a.m. MT at the Crestwood Community Hall in Edmonton to make a "major announcement," expected to be the long-awaited election call. 

A standard 28-day campaign would send Albertans to the polls on May 5.

According to Alberta law, the date of the next election is supposed to take place a year from now. So why would a premier with 72 of 87 seats in the legislature ignore his government's own legislation and go to the polls so soon?

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/elections/alberta-votes-2015-jim-prentice-expecte...

 

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