Kenney's Reign in Alberta

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Martin N. wrote:
I think that activists have run amuck with disinformation about the issue and the many headlines in the news has emboldened them to new heights of zealotry. It is too bad that the constructive criticism of reasonable activists is lost in the noise of the ignorami espousing the emotions of the moment because the silent majority is now aroused and is signalling approval for pipelines and tankers.

While everyone has blind spots, and some environmental activists discredit their message through their behaviour, the media is generally in the game of sensationalism, highlighting the craziest character they find, and all sorts of things, because that is what gets ratings. Accurate dissemination of facts does not. This is a whole other topic for a different thread, but for example, this was the same kind of thing they said about anti-Iraq war protesters in the 2000s. But if you still don't think the media have interests in this kind of thing, think about how much it costs to start a TV station. Ask yourself if you or anyone you know has the money necessary for that endeavour.

By the way, one of the reasons that public opinion is in favour of pipelines is because as Premier, people perceived Notley to be looking out for average, every day people, and they trusted her. Now that Kenney is in, he is considered to be a shill for the oil industry. Given this perception, and his bully tactics, I think we could see public opinion in the rest of the country turning against pipelines rather quickly.

Martin N. wrote:
The pendulum has swung and you have no one to blame but yourselves because your all or nothing approach does not endear you to the average peoplekind. You will lose. Individuals will not vote against their own interests, viz: carbon and other taxes push lower mainland gas prices to new highs. That's what the objective is, hence, reduce demand. But instead, lower mainlanders whine vociferously because they have no options.

We have had many discussions about the pros and cons of carbon taxes and other carbon pricing mechanisms over the years here. Plus, many of us on these fourms did not support Trudeau in the last election.

Martin N. wrote:
Typical bassackwards policy provides a policy objective that does not give the victims options. Put in the mass transit infrastructure FIRST and then tax the bejesus out of the commodity. Stupid pols. The political response is to blame 'gouging', a misdirection that has been disproven in every study of gas pricing.

Many of us have also spoken about the need for public transit in our communities, and on specific issues.

I don't know what your game is here, Martin. Most of the substantive issues you have raised, we discuss them here quite often. But your general antagonism towards "the left" or whatever term you want to use is quite off-putting, especially when it's not an accurate representation of the discussions we have on this board, and I have no idea if you are trolling or what is going on.

Martin N.

I'm not trolling so the answer must be that you have no idea what is going on. My general antagonism toward the left is simply that they can't stop preaching long enough to get anything done. I have no issue with lefty social policy etc but the hapless left is always tilting at windmills rather than working at putting policy into action.

My more specific antagonism toward the left is their tone deaf refusal to consider compromise or even logic on climate change and hydrocarbons. It will take decades to transition and it needs to be accomplished in an orderly manner, not an incoherent pandering to climate nuts. The unintended consequences are going to bite the vulnerable the most.


I think those who are making a fortune from our global climate crisis want to continue making a fortune for many more decades even if it means a great amount of destruction to our planet and the life forms that live on it!


March for life happened today with the nasty Sheila  Gunn Reid in attendence didnt take long for the right uglies to go into action.

voice of the damned

Climenhaga: Stephen Mandel pleads for public subsidy for his Alberta Party

Guess you can't blame him for trying, though I can't see any rationale for the proposal, unless we want to set the precedent that the most popular among the parties that didn't win any seats should get funding. And I say this as someone who would like to have seen Mandel get into the legislature(assuming the seat would otherwise have gone to a UCPer).



Don’t politicians ever resign on principle any more