New Surrey Police

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Aristotleded24
New Surrey Police

City terminates RCMP contract:

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Council unanimously passed a motion immediately after it was sworn in this week to terminate its contract with RCMP and begin forming a municipal force.

The RCMP says it would be the first time a local government would move from the national force since Cape Breton, N.S., made the switch in 2000. Abbotsford, B.C., dropped the Mounties in 1995, when it amalgamated with Matsqui and formed the Abbotsford Police Department, and a small town in Prince Edward Island made the move in the early 1990s.

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Rob Gordon, a criminology professor with Simon Fraser University, said it's a daunting and costly task. While it typically comes with the benefit of lighter caseloads for local officers, it means immediately losing a 10 per cent subsidy that the federal government offers any municipality that uses the RCMP.

"There will be a lot of eyes on Surrey to see whether or not it is cost effective to do this," Gordon said.

Mayor Doug McCallum has defended the expense, which he said voters condoned when they filled all but one council seat with members of the Safe Surrey party, which ran on making the change.

"A local police force will understand the community better and will be more motivated to tackle problems," his campaign platform said.

quizzical

a new more in touch with community force? the Surrey "enforcers"?

wonder how he knows this? 

the RCMP called down as ineffective might be really encouraged to help.

they got 2 years to create a force. probably with things worsening. then a force, who knows where they're gonna recruit, getting to know the community. 5-10 years of freedom reigning in Surrey imv.

well at least it will free up some RCMP in other underserved areas.

 

Aristotleded24

I would imagine that attempting to convince Mounties currently stationed in Surrey to trade their RCMP patches for municipal ones will be a big part of their strategy. Probably will also try to recruit officers from the surrounding municipal police forces as well, along with whatever college programs train recruits for police in the Lower Mainland.

The article mentioned that this would be the first time that a municipality has traded out an RCMP detachment for a local force. That change usually goes in the other direction. I remember a few years ago there was discussion about doing so for Brandon. One of the arguments for was cost, which I found ridiculous because I'm sure that RCMP officers are paid more than Brandon police officers. Plus this new RCMP detachment would have been responsible for policing inside and outside of Brandon, possibly affecting response times within the city.

Personally, I'm a proponent of front-line policing being done by local and provincial agencies, simply because that structure allows more direct community control over what the police do. I would be happy with the RCMP moving out of local policing altogether, and then focus on large-scale crime like organized crime, human trafficking, cyber crime, telemarketing fraud, and child pornography.

jerrym

Aristotleded24 wrote:

I would imagine that attempting to convince Mounties currently stationed in Surrey to trade their RCMP patches for municipal ones will be a big part of their strategy. ...

I'm sure that RCMP officers are paid more than Brandon police officers.

 

I don't know what the pay difference in Brandon but in Calgary, Edmonton and metro Vancouver police forces the pay difference is enormous and is already causing RCMP officers to switch forces. 

Heavy caseloads, a toxic workplace culture, officer safety and low pay are among the reasons Mounties are choosing to leave the RCMP for new careers at other Canadian police forces. 

That's according to Mounties who recently left or are preparing to leave Canada's national police force and who spoke to CBC News. ...

Yet on average, Mounties at the rank of first-class constable make $20,000 less than colleagues at Calgary, Edmonton or Vancouver police forces.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-mounties-leaving-jobs-police-1.403...

 

quizzical

huh. tks Jerry. would've thought it was the opposite.

it's a big difference.