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A horrific story of abuse

 

Will S

I'm not sure if this fits best here or in the feminism forum or the international news forum because it probably could fit in all three. But considering the racist underpinnings, I'll put it here.

Warning: There is some pretty graphic stuff written here.

[url=http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0911071logansix1.html]Woman held captive[/url]

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SEPTEMBER 11--A black West Virginia woman was sexually assaulted, stabbed, and tortured while being held captive by her white abductors, one of whom told her, "That's what we do to niggers around here."

I'm surprised I saw this on a gossip blog before I read about it on a mainstream news site.

Maysie Maysie's picture

Will, it's a racist hate crime, and this despicable story belongs in this forum.

From the New York Times, online:

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A 20-year-old woman was held captive for more than a week in a mobile home, where she was raped, stabbed and tortured by at least a half-dozen people, the police said. Sheriff’s deputies rescued her on Saturday, and she remained hospitalized Tuesday in stable condition.

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Six people, including a mother and her son and a mother and her daughter, have been charged in the case.

The police said the people charged, all of whom are white, yelled racial slurs at the woman, who is black, during some of the attacks. The woman endured horrific torture, according to court documents. She was raped by multiple men, some of whom poured scalding water on her during the assaults, according to the criminal complaints.


[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/us/12captive.html?_r=2&ref=todayspaper... York Times story here[/url]

[ 13 September 2007: Message edited by: bigcitygal ]

mary123

It's just unbelievable this story.
One thing we can all do is send good thoughts and some love to the victim for support and to help in her healing.

I hope she recovers and leads a normal life somehow someway.

remind remind's picture

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She was raped by multiple men, some of whom poured scalding water on her during the assaults, according to the criminal complaints.

I hope they all go to jail for life, how she is ever going to have a "normal" life is questionablem, it won't be for a long time, and her hatred and fear of white people might just be life long, and correctly so.

Fucking asswipes, and some white people think, the white race is being oppressed.

This story needs to be followed closely to see what transpires in court.

oldgoat

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070912/woman-tortured/]Appare... the State is not going for hate crime charges at this time.[/url]

Although they seem to be keeping their options open for the future.

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While federal civil rights or state hate crime charges remain an option, a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to life in prison will provide the best chance for successful prosecution, officials said.

God, what a family!

remind remind's picture

Yes, Old Goat the family is certainly whacked right out. The one guy went after his mother with a machet for God's sake. And the mother had been in jail for killing an 84 year old woman.

Then this:

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The victim had a previous relationship with Bobby Brewster, one of the six in custody, Abraham said. He was charged in July with domestic battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

"She obviously had some sort of social relationship," Abraham said. "That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a prior date."


How in the hell do people get this whacked out?

1234567

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SEPTEMBER 11--A black West Virginia woman was sexually assaulted, stabbed, and tortured while being held captive by her white abductors, one of whom told her, "That's what we do to niggers around here."

And we find out she had a relationship with one of them? WTF?

Not that it lessens the crime any but don't you all think that the media is using this to sell papers?

mary123

This should be a much bigger story than it is currently. Imagine if it was a family of black people doing the same things to a 22 year old white girl! Imagine the outrage then!

It's a disgusting crime on so many levels. Ugh.

[ 13 September 2007: Message edited by: mary123 ]

1234567

It really shows that people run in packs. It's rare that individuals will stand up and say "this is wrong" It is a very sad fact about us humans. Very sad.

Will S

The Times story really fills in the gory details. Why do I get a sinking feeling that a film-maker is bound to use this story as the basis for a torture porn flick? I really hope these people get prosecuted to the full extent possible. And I certainly hope the authorities reconsider not treating this as a hate crime.

AfroHealer

I heard a BBC reporter state that the number of hate crimes in that area down to 7,000 a year!!!! adn taht things have greatly imporved in the town form its days in the 60's ..

it made me wonder, if there would not a big stink if there were 70 hate crimes against white people.

This just goes to show how Racist this society is, that that number of attacks against people of colour, is not seen as issue worthy of calling in the national guard.

When i first heard of this story ( i think it might have been CNN ) .. i thought they were talking about something that happened in 1960's. Not today 2007!!!

I can only imagine how Terrorized the other minority members of that community are feeling. This is pretty much state sanctioned TERROR.

It is indeed shameful, and telling when the authorities are choosing not to prosecute this as a hate crime.

[ 19 September 2007: Message edited by: AfroHealer ]

Pogo Pogo's picture

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Originally posted by 1234567:
[b]It really shows that people run in packs. It's rare that individuals will stand up and say "this is wrong" It is a very sad fact about us humans. Very sad.[/b]

so true.

RosaL

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Originally posted by Pogo:
[b]

so true.[/b]


I don't know if it's "in our genes". It may have something to do with the kind of society we live in.

remind remind's picture

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Originally posted by RosaL:
[b]I don't know if it's "in our genes". It may have something to do with the kind of society we live in.[/b]

Then peoples have always lived in that "kind of society".

RosaL

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Originally posted by remind:
[b]

Then peoples have always lived in that "kind of society".[/b]


With some qualifications, yes.

Fat_Sow

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Originally posted by mary123:
[b] Imagine if it was a family of black people doing the same things to a 22 year old white girl! Imagine the outrage then!

[/b]


We don't have to imagine. We know exactly what would occur.

Little more than a year ago, 5 [hate deleted] kidnapped Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

These subhuman animals raped Christopher, cut off his penis, shot him and dismembered him in front of his girlfriend. Then the animals raped Channon for 4 days.

The [hate deleted] cut off Channon's tits when they were finished with her, poured cleaning solvent down her throat to eliminate DNA, and then killed and dismembered Channon.

The news media was totally silent about this crime, because it was one of thousands of stranger black on white murders. The reverse almost never happens. In America, or anywhere else.

Of course, rather than spend a single second thinking about that poor white girl who was help captive, raped repeatedly, mutilated, and cut into pieces by [hate deleted], the shitbags at rabble will scream that I am a racist for posting this story.

[hate deleted]

[ 02 November 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]

Cueball Cueball's picture

However...

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[b]Police Chief Sterling Owen[/b] IV said that there is no indication the crimes were racially motivated, and that the murders and assault "appears to have been a random violent act."[16] "There is absolutely no proof of a hate crime," said John Gill, special counsel to Knox County District Atty. Randy Nichols. [b]"We know from our investigation that the people charged in this case were friends with white people, socialized with white people, dated white people. So not only is there no evidence of any racial animus, there's evidence to the contrary." [/b][17] Some commentators, including Newsom's parents, disagree, claiming that such a crime would require a motive of racial hate

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher... of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom[/url]

Also, the story as horrific as it sounds, probably did not get coverage because contrary to your statement, Channon was not held for four days (meaning she was killed within a day of here being kidnapped), they did not cut off Newsom's dick, nor did the cut off Channon's tits. Channon was probably dead when they poured Borax down her throat, and likewise, Newsom was likely burned after he was dead, as a way of getting rid of the evidence. So in fact what you have is a fairly ordinary Mercan murder story about robbery sexual violence and desperate criminals trying to cover up the evidence by using Borax to get rid of DNA evidence, and burning a body so that it would be hard to identify, not the gruesome Mansonesque four day torture/rape/kidnapping scenario you have outlined.

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Similarly, claims made over the Internet that the couple were sexually mutilated are "absolutely not true," John Gill, [b]special assistant to District Attorney Randy Nichols,[/b] said Friday.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18745632/]MSNBC[/url]

Local news stuff in the USA really, sadly.

It only made mainstream when a bunch of uninformed bigots like you got on your broken blog-a-phone -- I guess we can assume that the rest of your "facts" about statistics of black on white rape and the FBI are also total bullshit.

I wish they would ban you for being an idiot, but they can't however they can ban you for being a bigot... at least that is something.

[ 15 September 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]

Michelle

Yup. We can. Fat sow is gone.

Cueball Cueball's picture

For being an idiot disseminating false news?

Maysie Maysie's picture

That was really unpleasant.

Thanks to Cueball for your internet search skills and for being a night-owl, and thanks to Michelle for being a late-nighter as well.

Catchall

Maybe somone could tell me exactly what these sub-human, trailer-trash, skank-holes have to do with other white people and why their despicable actions should reflect negatively on white people as a whole. After that we can talk about why almost all gun murders in Toronto are committed by Jamaican males but it's wrong to assume that responsibility for their actions should be assumed by all black people.

There are certain people here who seem to like stereotyping white people and Christians while screaming bloody murder when generalizations are made about any other groups or religions. It's quite curious really.

[ 15 September 2007: Message edited by: Catchall ]

Unionist

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Originally posted by Catchall:
[b]
There are certain people here who seem to like stereotyping white people and Christians while screaming bloody murder when generalizations are made about any other groups or religions. It's quite curious really.
[/b]

You forgot rich people and powerful people. I like stereotyping them too. Mind you, it's hard not to. There's so much dang material there.

Catchall

Rich and powerful? You mean like Fidel Castro or Hilary Clinton?

Unionist

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Originally posted by Catchall:
[b]Rich and powerful? You mean like Fidel Castro or Hilary Clinton?[/b]

No way, Hilary's a commie pinko and she's my hero! Even though she's white and Christian - I've forgiven her for that. Death to capitalism! Bring down the Pope! Revolution now! Off with their heads!

Catchall

There actually is a culture in the world today that encourages beheadings. And they want to overthrow capitalist christian democracies too. See? There are others who share your aspirations. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

[ 15 September 2007: Message edited by: Catchall ]

Unionist

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Originally posted by Catchall:
[b]There actually is a culture in the world today that encourages beheadings. And they want to overthrow capitalist christian democracies too. See? There are others who share your aspirations. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]
[/b]

Excellent! Got any contact information?

Catchall

I don't think their caves have postal service. Sorry.

remind remind's picture

It's hard to see how catchall's comments fit in the anti-racism forum!!!!!!!

Unionist

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Originally posted by remind:
[b]It's hard to see how catchall's comments fit in the anti-racism forum!!!!!!![/b]

Well, it kind of serves as a reminder in a way.

oldgoat

I agree with remind. Catchall, you've managed to denigrate Toronto's Janmaican community, Islam, (yes I know to whom you're referring) as well as being classist. Also, who the hell said anything about Christianity?

Stay out of the anti-racism forum. You don't understand it. Having said that, if you continue to post this sort of crap in other forums your stay would be a short one.

remind remind's picture

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Originally posted by unionist:
[b]Well, it kind of serves as a reminder in a way.[/b]

What, a reminder that people that say crap like this:

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Maybe somone could tell me exactly what these sub-human, trailer-trash, skank-holes have to do with other white people and why their despicable actions should reflect negatively on white people as a whole.

embody, or personify, what they are? Racists and classists.

[ 15 September 2007: Message edited by: remind ]

Maysie Maysie's picture

Thanks for being on top of stuff unionist, remind and oldgoat. Sheesh.

I'm thinking that the horrible news story that began this thread has served its purpose; we're informed, and it may not make sense to keep the thread open anymore. It seems to be an insensitive moron magnet. Thoughts?

remind remind's picture

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Originally posted by bigcitygal:
[b]I'm thinking that the horrible news story that began this thread has served its purpose; we're informed, and it may not make sense to keep the thread open anymore. It seems to be an insensitive moron magnet. Thoughts?[/b]

Yes, it does seem to be a catchall for racists at this point, but I would like to keep it around for breaking news on this case when it goes to court, perhaps it can be closed and reoponed later?

Cueball Cueball's picture

quote:


Originally posted by Catchall:
[b]There actually is a culture in the world today that encourages beheadings. And they want to overthrow capitalist christian democracies too. See? There are others who share your aspirations. [img]wink.gif" border="0[/img]

[ 15 September 2007: Message edited by: Catchall ][/b]


Unlkie civilized cultures, which electrocute them or inject them with poison that makes their organs explode. Hey! But you are right the bodies come out better looking, well, a little, anyway.

AfroHealer

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Originally posted by Catchall:
[b]Maybe somone could tell me exactly what these sub-human, trailer-trash, skank-holes have to do with other white people and why their despicable actions should reflect negatively on white people as a whole. After that we can talk about why almost all gun murders in Toronto are committed by Jamaican males but it's wrong to assume that responsibility for their actions should be assumed by all black people.

[ 15 September 2007: Message edited by: Catchall ][/b]


Let me help clearify your racist and flawed idealogy.

The youth in toronto are not Jamaican they are Canadian. Its telling when the minute someone of a Non-european background does something wrong, they mysteriously get cast as from somewhere else. ignoring the fact that they might have been in this country for 400yrs.

I remember when Ben Johnson won the gold medal, he was Canadian. But when he tested positive, he was then a Jamaican .

If you can tell me why nobody seem to think it is logical to discuss how white culture has lead to the growth of mostly white biker gangs.

Then come back and try to explain to me this mythological Jamaican basis for the violence in Canadian urban youth is logical.

The Biker gangs and violence in urban communities are both products of the Canadian system.

AfroHealer

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Originally posted by Fat_Sow:
[b]

Of course, rather than spend a single second thinking about that poor white girl who was help captive, raped repeatedly, mutilated, and cut into pieces by negroes, the shitbags at rabble will scream that I am a racist for posting this story.

[ 14 September 2007: Message edited by: Fat_Sow ][/b]


Your are racist by the fact that you are spewing racist bigotry. Nuff Said.

And thanks to the moderators for dealing with the rabble member, who made these insulting and degrading comments.

Maysie Maysie's picture

More charges have been laid against 5 of the 6 accused in this case.

I'm not going to repeat the details of this gruesome crime, read the new charges at the link.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20824918/]MSNBC.com[/url]

Maysie Maysie's picture

Two updates.

This hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread, but I've read unconfirmed writings/bloggings, that the victim is developmentally delayed. Some have speculated this is why both her name and her picture have been widely circulated in the media, that her consent hasn't really been given to have that information out there.

The other update is beyond ridiculous, but I heard about it and feel the need to post it, not because it's news or it matters, but because it shows very clearly what the media's project to minimize white violence perpetuated against women of colour.

It seems that the victim wrote a few bad cheques in May 2006, and has just been charged this week with misdemeanor counts of writing worthless checks, obtaining under false pretenses and a felony count of failure to appear in circuit court. I would laugh except that it isn't fucking funny.

[url=http://www.dailymail.com/story/News/2007091957/Torture-victim-charged-wi... in the Charleston Daily Mail online[/url]

Frustrated Mess Frustrated Mess's picture

In-fucking-credible.

AfroHealer

Now the Media and the police are attempting a full scale Smear attack.

Regardless of what other crimes this young lady may have committed, now is not the time to be arresting her. Ok . let say they have been looking for her.. so now they got her.

It still has nothing to do with the fact that she is victim of racially motivated terror.

[url=http://www.racialicious.com/2007/09/20/west-virginia-torture-and-rape-vi... torture and rape victim arrested for writting bad checks[/url]

oldgoat

I guess the lesson here is that if you're abused, you better think twice about reporting it to the police, unless you're a nice privleged person who's never erred or had to cut a corner in life to get by. If you're not, then it's open season on you.

jas

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Originally posted by remind:
It's hard to see how catchall's comments fit in the anti-racism forum!!!!!!

I'm a little surprised that Catchall is still on Babble, actually.

Lefty_Larry

Hate deleted

[ 02 November 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]

Michael Hardner

Let's remove that last post ?

Lefty_Larry

Not a word of sympathy for that poor white girl, repeatedly raped, tortured, and murdered, huh? Intead, only the demand to remove the post.

You assholes are the worst.

Lefty_Larry

So what we have is the story of a bunch of meth-heads who tried to get some money out of one of the their circle of friends, one of whom happened to be a thief. And yet, the nutbars in this forum try to turn this into a " hate crime", because the thief was a [hate deleted].

But when a real racially motivated rape/torture shows up, the 'anti-racists' demand that all evidence of the case be removed.

Pathetic.

[ 02 November 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]

Cueball Cueball's picture

We already went over the facts of this case Larry. And your story is shite.

Lefty_Larry

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Originally posted by Cueball:
[b]We already went over the facts of this case Larry. And your story is shite.[/b]

Not a single word of sympathy for that poor white girl kidnapped, raped repeatedly over a period days, eventually murdered, who witnessed her boyfriend raped, shot, and burned in front of her? But that's really not torture, is it? [Hate deleted]
You are such disgusting slugs it would be funny, if it didn't make me want to vomit

[ 02 November 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]

Cueball Cueball's picture

Sympathy? Sure. I just don't have any sympathy for your lying about what happened, as part of your hate and disinformation campaign. For example the victim was not kidnapped for days. They were killed, according to the coroners report almost immediatly. Also the boyfriend was burned later as part of the effort to cover up the evidence, not in front of Channon. Channon was also likely very dead when they pored Borax down her throat to get rid of the DNA evidence.

How about this Larry. I know a Native woman who was kidnapped raped and beaten for three days by a white guy named McDonald. I am the one who took the "distress" call, so I am very familiar with the facts.

Now, I demand you express your sympathy.

[ 02 November 2007: Message edited by: Cueball ]

Maysie Maysie's picture

Due to events on this thread and another that was opened and closed this morning, I think it's best that I close this thread due to its inactivity and the "moron magnet" factor I speculated on before.

If there are future updates to the story from the OP, anyone can start a new thread about it.

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