New Brunswick Election Thread - Sept 27, 2010

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The NDP needs more higher profile candidates and needs to learn from the NS NDP. I have tried telling them this for 25 yrs! ( am not THAT ol, lol) but it seems to fall on hearing impaired people, sigh!

mtm

Well, to be fair, I don't think anyone doesn't want higher profile candidates!  Its getting them to run.  Its kind of like telling an unemployed person to get a job!  Doesn't make it any easier, but you know you need one.  The problem is these high profile candidates don't just materialize - they emerge once the party is seen as strong enough to win.  And it will never get strong enough to win without high profile candidates.  And thus the vicious cycle continues.

I think Harding is a high profile candidate though.  She was front and centre in taking on Lamrock over the education cuts.

 

A request to the mods:

Is there any way we could possibly split this thread into an NB Power sale thread and keep the Election thread separate, as they are really unrelated.  I should have started a new topic, apologies.

Caissa

The final session of the legislative assembly before the 2010 election will start on Tuesday with the proposed sale of NB Power expected to dominate the debate in the coming months.

Lt.-Gov. Graydon Nicholas will read his first throne speech since his appointment, outlining the agenda of Premier Shawn Graham's Liberal government at 3 p.m.

The speech will likely outline several agenda items that the Liberal government intends to wrap up before the Sept. 27, 2010, election but those issues will all likely be secondary to the passage of the sale of the majority of NB Power's assets to Hydro-Québec.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/11/17/nb-throne-speech...

mtm

There were somewhere between 2000-3000 angry NB'ers waiting for them on the lawn of the Legislature today - of course that gets scant mention.

mtm

correction.  as with any public gathering the numbers vary.

My Liberal source says 500.  My NDP source says 3000.

We'll say 1000 - as one thing I do know is that we New Dems do tend to overstate in our exuberance

Caissa

The CBC 3 o'clock radio news used the phrase "several hundred."

ETA: Paul Castle just reported "almost a thousand"

mtm

Ha.  You could hear the protesters chanting outside as the L-G gave the throne speech on the gov live stream!

 

 

Caissa

CBC Radio reported this morning that Cabinet Minister Kelly Lamrock will consult his constituents before he decides whether or not he will support the Hydro-Quebec deal. Is he positioning himself to run as an independent and jump to the NDP after the election if they win any seats?

KenS

I have a question that puzzles me about the NBPower deal.

Leaving aside substantive questions- why is the government taking the political risks with this?

On the one hand- they had a serious issue they had to deal with... the NBPower debt and looming power increases... all the buzzards coming to roost on the government's tree and watch. But as far as that goes- everyone knows these are inherited problems. Yes, they are supposed to come up with solutions, have had time, and will be exposed on that account. But its nothing clearcut, and they sure look like they face pretty toothless opposition.

We're chock a block with governments who muddle through this sort of thing.

So instead, they come up with this bright idea. Which does have the potential to be popular enough and win them all the huzzahs for September. But anyone would know before a word is floated that this is also has big time potential of backfiring.

So you take a government that [appearing to me at least] was reasonably assured to be able to float by its opposition even with a less then stirling record about dealing with NBPower... who instead choose the option that has the potential of handing the opposition the issue to catapult them out of their torpor.

Does it look like that to at least some people?

Whether or not the Cabinet Minister breaks ranks over this, there WILL be serious cracks developing. September does time to digest all the 'issues'... but it only makes that possible. If this blows up in their faces, even if nothing goes sideways with the execution it will take a few years for people to acquiesce to it.

KenS

Know nothing about Lamrock, but unless you do Caissa, thats kind of getting ahead of things.

For example, he may already expect that in the end he will vote for the deal. That the misgivings he expresses are enough for him. Its not an unusual strategy in this kind of situation.

Or he may decide to vote with his conscience, that he doesn't need to be a Minister, and is content to be a backbencher. One of those being the usual scenario.

[Who people then work on.]

Caissa

Lamrock is my former roommate (1993-4). He also came out recently criticizng the province's anti-poverty strategies and held an anti-poverty summit last Thursday and Friday which has been eclipsed by Hydro affair. He has an interesting past including working for Senator Noel Kinsella and drafting the NB NDP party platform prior to becoming a Liberal. Given the Liberal's relatively slim majority, Kelly's comments at the very least will lead to some raised eyebrows.

KenS

Thats interesting about him.

And too bad about the summit getting lost in the shuffle.

If it was barely noticed, then people would probably not notice if it was simply rebooted in early Spring.... or even close to Christmas.

Which is his seat by the way? What parts of Fredricton?

KenS

Cabinet minister clarifies his NB Power view

 

Quote:

Lamrock issued a statement saying that his insistence on listening to his constituents should not be interpreted as being opposed to his government.

"I support the government and its agenda. As I expressed in the interview, I have great faith in my premier and I believe that the MOU with Hydro-Québec deals with issues like lower power rates, a competitive edge for the businesses that employ New Brunswickers, and a reduction of a debt that is unseemly large for a small population," Lamrock's statement said.

"My statements that my colleagues and I are listening to and learning from New Brunswickers, and prepared to act in what we sincerely believe is the provincial interest, do not change the fact that I support the leader, the government and its agenda for self-sufficiency without reservation."

Graham defended Lamrock against charges that he opposes the deal during a province-wide CBC call-in program on Wednesday morning.

"He clearly supports this deal that's going to lower power rates for every single New Brunswicker, and eliminate debt. He was a member of the cabinet team that made this decision," Graham said.

Not that this really says anything different one way or the other. Slight change in nuance plus the pro forma "I have full confidence in what my government has done".

Phone-in prorgram referred to still running?

Caissa

I believe his seat is Fredericton-Fort Nashwaak.

 

Here is some of the info on the changes to Social assistance.

The provincial government is promising sweeping changes to its social assistance system as part of a new poverty-reduction plan.

Some of the changes will take effect immediately, while others will be implemented over the next five years, Social Development Minister Kelly Lamrock said Friday after a two-day poverty forum in Saint John.

Social assistance rates will immediately increase by 80 per cent for people on the "lowest rung" of the system, who currently live on less than $300 a month, he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/11/13/nb-poverty-reduc...

KenS

Fredericton-Fort Nashwaak. Which means what areas to those of us with only a very general idea of Fredricton?

Caissa
mtm

the 'poverty summit' was merely a timed distraction from the NB Power fallout.

It was chock full of platitudes and guaranteed no real action beyond the government's 2010 mandate.  My question is that if they really cared about poverty reduction, why have they done nothing but give corporate bail outs to Irvings for the past three years?

Any time this government talks about poverty, it rings completely hollow.  There's a reason that Bethany Thorne-Dykstra, an anti-poverty advocate and former Lib candidate in 2003 is the main force behind this NB Power protest.  Perhaps she has realized that this is the party of big business, which cares nothing for the issues that relate to regular people - only getting sweet deals for their friends in industry.

KenS

Was the summit driven by the government? Even tacitly?

Doesn't seem too likely that the Minister of Social Development would have a strong role unless that was with his government colleagues blessing.

mtm

sorry, i didn't mean the summit itself...I mean the 'big gov't announcement' as part of the summit.

I'm not saying it wasn't a planned event long before hand, I just mean Lamrock and the Libs used it as a mass-distraction.

Yibpl

Caissa wrote:

Lamrock ... held an anti-poverty summit last Thursday and Friday ... has an interesting past including ... drafting the NB NDP party platform prior to becoming a Liberal. Given the Liberal's relatively slim majority, Kelly's comments at the very least will lead to some raised eyebrows.

 

Kelly "I never met a microphone I didn't love" Lamrock's character is aptly summarized above.  He was a NDPer until he grew up, needed a job, and realized he did not have a snowball's chance of getting elected as an NDP candidate, so promptly jumped ship to the Lieberals.  Now like a rat sniffing the rope running between two ships, is positioning himself to run back to the NDP IF the Liebreals implode over this NB Power fiasco.

 

 

mtm

No worries.

Kelly majorly P-O'ed the large faction of CUPE members as Min of Ed when he cheerled not only the Early French Immersion changes, but also delivered the bad news on the layoff of librarians and support staff.  A decision that was reversed when he was removed from that portfolio.

Sandy Harding, the now-NDP-nominee for Saint John East was a key leader in that fight.  There's no way he would be welcome back in the fold.

Pierre C yr

Im just wondering as someone who has run for the NDP in the last 2 provincial elections how we can fashion an anti NB power sale message if its almost certain to go through before the next election. While I agree until its a done deal that we should run against it I personally think we should run at least on the promise of reestablishing the PUB's authority on setting power rates after 5 years. And if that also cant be had due to contractual obligations I have no idea what other issue could give us traction to maintain the NS NDP bump and local boost of the new leader Roger Duguay's momentum during the actual campaing next fall and into the voting booth...

But maybe like free trade there are some contract opt out options... At least permitting for amendments to the deal. If so, Id quickly latch onto one even if some costs are to be suffered short term. Without the ability to effectively address the NB power sale fiasco Im not sure the NB NDP can mount a successful campaign next year. At least not one with much staying power past one or 2 elections. Running only on pent up emotions wont gain us long term support.

We need more numbers. How much NB Power stands to lose from leasing power lines to HQ for its north shore mega projects in the next 30-50 or more years. I not sure where bouchcl gets his numbers. Ive read NB Power paid down 1.3 billion of its debt in the last 10 years. That it only lost money after the orimulsion fiasco and the added costs of the Lepreau refit which are transitory.

NB Power imo can again be profitable long term. If its well separated from politics and proper management personnel are recruited and professional protocols instituted. I mean it doesnt take a genius to get a SIGNED contract before spending 750 million $ to retrofit a power plant. These people did it on a handshake for gods sake. Theres still a baby in this bathwater. If we have to throw up our arms in the air and give NB Power up because we 'cant' fix things right in this province, next they'll want to sell off nursing homes or hospitals or even schools after sabotaging them just as badly. 

I cant believe were that collectively stupid to be so manipulated this way.

 

 

 

 

Caissa

The NDP should run on tearing up the agreement.

The Liberal government is running into stiff opposition to its plan to sell NB Power, according to a new Leger Marketing poll.

The first public opinion poll on the deal was released on Monday and showed the deal is seen unfavourably by 60 per cent of New Brunswick residents, while only 22 per cent of respondents like the agreement

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/11/24/nb-nbpower-leger...

Pierre C yr

I ran in Grand Falls. Ya I think its unlikely we can tear up the agreement Caissa. The costs for doing so may be too high. I do hope we can at least get the balance of power in the next legislature even if only by winning a couple seats. Trust can be a good point but then we'll need to be able to effect some kind of fundamental changes that may cost something. But Im concerned  that we've been out of power so long, forever in NB so far,  the government has essentially been bottled up fiscaly so tightly it will be hard to change anything substantially.

mtm

I also think its important to add.

The Leger Marketing poll today had the following results:

Progressive Conservative - 45%
Liberal - 33%
New Democrats - 19%
Greens - 4%

 

This is a complete inversion from the last CRA poll, with the NDP holding steady right around 20% (within the margin of error of last time, showing that its no flash in the pan)

Pierre C yr

Thatd be great. At 20% at the polls, and if people feel secure that the libs arent being returned to power, means the NDP could get 2-4 seats easy. And a good chance at holding the balance of power. Red tories and an NDP presence to deal with could do good work in the province...

 

 

mtm

While I very much like this analysis, I think that we have to be careful

This support seems to be pretty much "across the board", much like the solid 15-20% the NDP gets in all the NB Fed ridings (other than Yvon Godin's), which under the FPTP may well result in no seats except for Roger's.

In the wonderful system we have, you need to have concentrated pockets of support, which comes from having excellent candidates and strong campaigns in certain areas.  This is the key challenge facing the NDP as 2010 looms...

20% everywhere is no good.  You'd be better off getting 40% somewhere, and 5% somewhere else, than having 20% everywhere.

Candidate search/selection and target campaigning is unfortunately the only thing that can translate this latent support into solid seats.

Caissa

More than 80 per cent of New Brunswick residents support the Official Languages Act four decades after it was adopted, a new poll suggests.

Michel Carrier, the commissioner of official languages, released the poll on Wednesday. It indicates 82 per cent of New Brunswickers backed the language bill first adopted by then-premier Louis J. Robichaud in 1969 and then updated by Bernard Lord in 2002.

Among anglophones surveyed, 38 per cent said they strongly support the legislation and 37 per cent agreed somewhat with the act. Meanwhile, 97 per cent of francophones surveyed said they support the language law.

Of those surveyed, about 18 per cent did not favour the law.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/11/25/nb-bilingualism-...

mtm

ANOTHER budget today, a mere 8 months or so since the last one. 

Record deficits expected, paid for out of the NB Power sale fund, that they are selling as if it is 'paying down the debt'.  At this rate, the NB Power debt would be back on the province's books in another 3-5 years.

Caissa
Caissa

The NB Power sale controversy has given the Progressive Conservatives a jolt in public support, lifting them past the governing Liberals, a new poll suggests.

The Progressive Conservatives saw their popular support jump to 46 per cent in November - up from 35 per cent in August - in the latest quarterly poll by Corporate Research Associates.

New Brunswick party supportAugustNovember

PCs
35%
46%

Liberals
41%
36%

NDP
22%
14%

Green Party
3%
4%

Undecided
43%
42%

Sample: 416, Margin of error: 4.8%
 
 

Premier Shawn Graham's Liberals saw their support erode to 36 per cent from 41 per cent during the same period, the poll indicates.

After its popularity grew in August, the New Democratic Party saw its voter intention numbers sag in November. The NDP's support dropped to 14 per cent from 22 per cent, the poll suggests.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/12/01/nb-poll-tories-s...

mtm

That is a very high margin of error. 

14% is still reasonable considering the environment and that colossal MOE...and the fact that the leger poll a week ago had us at 18.  A long way to go till the election too...and its inevitable that the vitriol will die down (unfortunately) as people get more used to the idea of the NB Power sale which is fueling this poll almost entirely.  It won't be the only issue come election time.

Stockholm

Bear in mind that in the last NB election the NDP only got 5% of the vote so even 14% would be almost a tripling. I believe that the highest popular vote the NDP has EVER had in a NB provincial election is only ablout 9%.

NorthReport

Overall this polling is great news for the NB NDP.

Obviously the NS election of the first Atlantic NDP government is having an impact, but what a golden opportunity now in NB with this power deal.

mtm

CBC:

"The polling firm sampled 416 New Brunswickers from Nov. 9 to Nov. 30. The margin of error for the entire poll is 4.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.  The margin of error for the decided voting numbers would be even higher."

416 is a very very low sample size to begin with.  The Leger poll last week is much more solid, in my opinion anyway.

 

 

Eastwinds

Caissa wrote:

The NB Power sale controversy has given the Progressive Conservatives a jolt in public support, lifting them past the governing Liberals, a new poll suggests.

The Progressive Conservatives saw their popular support jump to 46 per cent in November - up from 35 per cent in August - in the latest quarterly poll by Corporate Research Associates.

New Brunswick party supportAugustNovember

PCs
35%
46%

Liberals
41%
36%

NDP
22%
14%

Green Party
3%
4%

Undecided
43%
42%

Sample: 416, Margin of error: 4.8%
 
 

Premier Shawn Graham's Liberals saw their support erode to 36 per cent from 41 per cent during the same period, the poll indicates.

After its popularity grew in August, the New Democratic Party saw its voter intention numbers sag in November. The NDP's support dropped to 14 per cent from 22 per cent, the poll suggests.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/12/01/nb-poll-tories-support-grows-410.html[/quote]

 

Easy way to fix that recent jolt to the NB PC's.....cancel the deal to sell NB Power.  Every single radio call in show I have heard here in NB has majority of callers not too happy about this deal. I can't remember of anyone from the public calling in supporting the idea...I'm sure there's a few but they are few and far between.

With the Atlantic premiers meeting earlier this year with US east coast governors and talking about doing more business together, talking about Atlantic Canada working together more in business, etc etc...this NB Power sale to Quebec just throws a big wrench in the gears. It's a big mistake.

Caissa

New Brunswick's electricity rates would be nearly triple current levels if the province had tied power rate increases to inflation 50 years ago, according to a CBC review.

New Brunswick is proposing to permanently tie provincial power rates to inflation beginning in 2015 as part of its deal to sell NB Power to Hydro-Québec.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/12/15/nb-nbpower-infla...

Caissa

Speaker Roy Boudreau of the New Brunswick legislature says he will rule later on complaints against a Progressive Conservative MLA accused of threatening behaviour.

Members of the Liberal government introduced two motions on Tuesday: one alleges Tory MLA Cy LeBlanc threatened deputy speaker Bill Fraser for adjourning too quickly on Thursday, and the other accuses several other Opposition members of trying to intimidate Fraser and Boudreau in their office.

"You don't swear, scream, curse and advance on the Speaker. You don't," said Liberal MLA Kelly Lamrock. "If the Conservative party can't find enough honour to say, 'You're right, we shouldn't do that,' then this is the only option left."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2009/12/15/nb-threats-mla-b...

mtm

Well, the NB Legislature has a lot in common with Jerry Springer...except one is a lot less contrived.  I'll leave it up to you to guess which one.

 

This is a landmark moment in the 'politics of mass-distraction' and the "Official Opposition" is playing into the Liberal hand perfectly.  As an NDP'er you have to like this because it makes the whole lot of them look like ineffective clowns. But I think right now, anything the Liberals can do to drag the Tories down (even if it is also marginally at their own expense) on a non-policy point, they will do it to stop the bleeding and shift the focus away from their incompetent, autocratic, and remorseless policies and style of governing.

Caissa

New Brunswick Justice Minister Michael Murphy has resigned suddenly from cabinet, a week before the legislature returns to continue debate on the Liberal government's contentious plan to sell NB Power to Hydro-Québec.

The two-term Moncton North MLA confirmed the resignation in a statement released Monday and told reporters at an afternoon news conference that he made his decision so he could spend more time with his family and return to practising law.

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/01/04/nb-murphy-justice-future-904...

Caissa

Peter MacKay, the senior federal minister for the Atlantic Region, is questioning the wisdom of the New Brunswick-Quebec power deal.

Speaking in Halifax Friday, MacKay, who also serves as federal defence minister, told CBC News the deal is a "short-term fix" for the region's green energy needs.

"I think a larger view of that would tell us perhaps there are better alternatives to what the Quebec-New Brunswick deal has put forward," MacKay said.

"Of course, the government of New Brunswick in pursuing this I think still [has] a lot of consultation, a lot of information to share, and a little bit of explaining to do. So, I'm keeping my powder dry as far as my personal views on this. I think we could use, in my opinion, a broader examination of green energy sources for Atlantic Canada."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/08/ns-mackay-power-...

mtm

At a joint press conference held at Tory party headquarters, just before a public rally to oppose the sale of NB Power, NDP leader Roger Duguay took the surprising opportunity to take aim at the PC's, saying that it was them that put the wheels in motion to sell NB Power.  He pointed out that it was the Lord Tories that initiated this process, and stated that he doesnt trust them to stand by their loose promises.

“We will only support a government that will rip up this deal and adopt a New Brunswick plan to fix NB Power. The Conservatives say they do not like this deal but won’t commit to tearing it up. The NDP is clear, if you want to stop the sale of NB Power, send New Democrats to the Legislature. Then, no matter who is elected: Liberal, Conservative, or NDP, this deal will be scrapped,” said Mr. Duguay.

http://nbndp.ca/en/node/42

 

This stance has stirred up much controversy, with some media outlets now saying that there is a crack in the opposition coalition against the deal (which never formally existed).  I'm sure the Tories are smarting from this surprise attack, but it makes it clear that the NDP won't fall back and support a loose promise by PC's to "do whatever they can", and challenges them to take a much stronger stance.

Time will tell how this plays out.

 

Pierre C yr

Its looks like the nbpower deal is collapsing imo...

 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/14/nb-nbpower-sale-...

 

Graham has promised that New Brunswick will retain control over its energy when NB Power is sold to Hydro-Québec, but this week, he started talking about ownership.

"The ownership and control of our energy system has been an issue that's been paramount, and our government will address that," he said Wednesday in question period. "The ownership and control of our energy system will remain in New Brunswick."

Caissa

Liberal ministers, MLAs won't vote for NB Power deal
N.B. premier denies caucus revolt over NB Power sale

 

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/18/nb-liberal-caucu...

Caissa

Irving Oil eyes regional transmission grid
$2B electricity connection to U.S.

 

Fort Reliance is seeking to build a regional electricity transmission system that would connect Eastern Canada and New England.

Fort Reliance, the privately held parent company of Saint John's Irving Oil Ltd., announced Monday that the proposal could generate upwards of $2 billion worth of new transmission infrastructure.

Jeff Matthews, a Fort Reliance spokesman, said the idea behind the new grid was sparked in recent months with the debate over the proposal to sell NB Power to Hydro-Québec. He said the NB Power issue prompted Fort Reliance to think about the need for co-operation regardless what happened to the province's power corporation

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/19/nb-transmission-fort-reliance-551.html
It also appears that a new NB Hydro deal will be announced today.
Interesting orchestrations going on.

Caissa

Quebec, N.B. alter power sale deal
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 | 8:50 AM AT
The Canadian Press

New Brunswick and Quebec have made major changes to the proposed deal to sell NB Power to Hydro-Québec.

A document obtained by The Canadian Press reveals that New Brunswick's power transmission and distribution systems are no longer for sale.

The document says NB Power would continue to operate as a New Brunswick-owned and operated Crown corporation, employing more than 60 per cent of the utility's current workforce.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswick/story/2010/01/19/qe-power-deal-ch...

KenS

They already announced that NB will keep the transmission grid, and apparently in return, NB also keeps the $4.5billion in debt.

This probably isn't going to satisy either New Brunswickers or critics who don't like the QH control of interprovincial and international power sales. For the latter, NB Power as Quebec Hydro's puppet will not provide any assurances.... though it may sufficiently mollify US regulatory agencies.

Quebec Hydro still gets all the generating plants [and their problems] in return for near term power rate guarantees.

mtm

Pierre, if you don't mind me asking, which riding did you run in?

As for your assertions about what we can do about this NB Power issue?  I think that we're naive to think the NDP in our zero-seat configuration can offer any real substance to this debate without a voice in the Legislature.  Our impotence is a direct result of our 2006 failure, and although it hurts us not to be able to stop this deal, the Liberals have parliamentary privilege to pass legislation until the end of their mandate.  If they want to shove this through, we can express our opposition and disgust, but its going to be the legacy they leave us for eternity.

What we need to stress is the dishonesty with which the Liberals governed.  We need to show that they betrayed the trust of the electorate, and our promise is to never, ever do that again.  The public have been told a series of white lies (toll roads, public auto, job creation, etc) only to have their major elected proponents back out, however, they have never been so blatantly betrayed by those who hold public office as they have by this deal.

For this reason, the NB Power issue becomes a side story.  Any exit clauses are likely going to be well-and-truly closed as by now, the Libs realize they are on the way out.

The issue for 2010 becomes one of trust.  Of a party and a government that listens to people, that doesn't make unilateral moves from upon high, and then tries to sell them to the public with a bunch of taxpayer funded propaganda.  A party that will be open, transparent, and a Leader who is trustworthy.

And the second they start to think about the Tories, you just point out that it was the PC's that mused about selling NB Power to begin with - and it was the Tories interference in NB Power's structure that prompted the Graham Liberals to make the promise not to sell it!  Couple that with the fact that the TurnStiles and other power-hungry operators seem to cross the floor effortlessly, and you adequately highlight that there is no difference between these two parties.
To the question of "trust".  How can you trust the man who wouldn't decry the sale of NB Power until he saw the MOU, then when pressured, proceeded to claim the deal wasn't sweet enough, and then when pressured further, almost a full week after, he said "NB Power is not for sale."  It's like they had to coax it out of him - bumbling, stumbling, and incoherent mumbling all the way.  His speech on the steps of the Legislature the days after the sale were the most forced, read, and unfelt words I have ever seen in politics.

This election won't be about policy in my mind.  This deal will be airtight and locked down.  It will be about trust...and the fact that Roger Duguay is a genuine, up-front, and honest politician with connections to the people through his former life in the Catholic ministry. He is youthful, energetic, and has never lived off the North Shore of NB. He is not a man of the corporate elite, or the NB Monarchy (you know who), and he is not controlled by any national party interests or personalities that so dominate NB discourse.  He is the anti-Liberal in all ways.

That is what I see us running on.  Roger Duguay - man of change.

 

 

mtm

This is the way the Liberals will still sell it off and then turn around and say "well, this is what you wanted! - You didn't want our MOU because it sold away the grid, so we're just doing exactly what you asked!"

Meanwhile, no New Brunswickers actually asked for any part of their utility to be sold before they brought it up.

This is the common thread of Graham's Liberal government.  Propose broad, sweeping, radical change, and then "back down" under pressure from the electorate, and tell them how much you listened to them.  Meanwhile, the result is a policy that nobody asked for or wanted.

Look at the record: 

- Early french immersion changes
- Elimination of Universities in Saint John, Edmunston and Shippagan
- Job cuts to education support staff
- Elimination of St. John River ferry services

In the end, the end result of this feigned "capitulation to the electorate" was a policy that nobody would have ever asked for to begin with. 

This MOU, and its revised version, is quite radical and surprising, but I fear the predictable end to a Liberal government which has thrived on its own self-made controversy in order to pass policy that would never be adopted on its own merits.

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