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Vatican Exorcist: Devil is in the Vatican

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7056689.ece

"Sex abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church are proof that "the Devil is at work inside the Vatican,' according to the Holy See's chief exorcist.."

the devil made me do it..

NDPP

Child Sexual Abuse 'Rife' across Britain, MPs Told

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158455/Online-porn-turning-chil...

"Girls as young as 11 'expect to have to perform sex acts on rows of boys for up to two hours at a time in parts of London, a shocking report has warned. Child abuse is rife across Britain with many of the depraved sex attacks being carried out by youngsters who have had their minds warped by online porn, a government expert said yesterday.

Deputy Children's Commissioner Sue Berelowitz said there 'isn't a town, village or hamlet in which children are not being sexually exploited. And she said easy access to 'extreme' internet porn was to blame as it 'affected children's thresholds of what they think is normal. What I am uncovering is that sexual exploitation of children is happening all over the country.' The deputy commissioner told the visibly stunned MPs what 'what is being done is so terrible that people need to lay aside their denial or risk victims being disbelieved. Victims numbered in the thousands not the hundreds, she said."

Unionist

NDPP wrote:
"... claims by an Italian academic that a greater presence of women in the Vatican could have prevented clerical sexual abuse from taking place..."

I wonder if this "academic" (thought that was an adjective?...) could name a single Roman Catholic community today or in history where priests lacked unlimited sexual access to unwilling women or children. Mind you, I would imagine that's not what the "academic" would define as "abuse". The "academic" thinks providing priests with more women would solve some kind of problem. The only solution is depriving them of their political, economic, and cultural power.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

The church also seems to have a hard time understanding that pedophilia is about abusing children.  Most of the scandals have involved child molesters.  Having a wife never stopped a single pedophile from offending.  The catholic church defends its pedophiles because a large proportion of priests were themselves abused by church officials who served as their mentors.  Hard to root out the perps when they are doling out the perks that go with networking in an extreme hierarchy. 

The asshole who abused me was promoted from a regular teacher and then to Vice Principal after he had been forced to change schools because of rumours of pedophilia.  The other Bazillions knew about him and he still progressed up the ranks and in the process was given unrestricted access to young pre-pubescent boys (his preference).  The discovery documents I read said he admitted to abusing hundreds of young men while he was in a treatment program.  I sued almost a decade after he had been sent for treatment and the church stonewalled my suit for 6 years and forced me to spend tens of thousands on lawyers and experts.

That old pedophiles network is the rot at the core of the church.

NDPP

An Open Letter From Dylan Farrow

http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-fa...

"What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother's electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me..."

NDPP

Underaged Sex With Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew. And Bill Clinton...? (If the Claims are True, Hillary is OVER!)

http://cannonfire.blogspot.ca/2015/01/underaged-sex-with-alan-dershowitz...

"The motion filed in United States District Court in the Southern District of Florida alleges that Mr Epstein forced a teenage girl to have sexual relations with several men, including Prince Andrew, Queen Elizabeth's second son, and Alan M Dershowitz, a professor emeritus at Harvard Law School. Both men have denied the allegations..."

 

Prince Andrew Named in US Lawsuit Over Underage Sex Claims

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/02/prince-andrew-named-us-la...

"...The woman's lawyers allege in their motion that in addition to facilitating her alleged encounters with the prince and Dershowitz, Epstein trafficked her to 'many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well known prime minister and other world leaders."

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

The celibacy rule should be abolished for other reasons(such as the fact that it costs the Church a huge number of potentially excellent priests...which is also why the ban on female priests should go), but no, it isn't likely to be a major contributor to the problem of pedophile priests.   There are few cases, in fact, of any men, anywhere, taking up pedophilia because they were frustrated in their need to have consensual sex with adults.    

Much more likely sources of the clergy sex abuse crisis stem from

1)The ways in which some young men, in preparation for the priesthood, are taken out of normal teenage socialization and educated in a peer culture in which the process of maturation is interrupted, leaving them in a state of intentionally arrested development;

2)The tendency of significant numbers of men who sense pedophilic impulses in themselves to seek ordination to the priesthood out of the belief that the celibacy requirement and the disciplinary structure of the Church will make it possible for them to control and suppress those impulses;

3)The converse tendency of other such men to seek ordination in the belief that the traditions of secrecy and lay deference to the clergy will allow them to act on those impulses at will, with few if any consequences;

4)The priority some in the Church(John Paul II being especially notorious in this regard)have placed on both maintaining the existing number of priests and "preserving the power of the Magisterium" over the protection of children from sexual abuse.

 

MegB

Unionist wrote:

NDPP wrote:
"... claims by an Italian academic that a greater presence of women in the Vatican could have prevented clerical sexual abuse from taking place..."

I wonder if this "academic" (thought that was an adjective?...) could name a single Roman Catholic community today or in history where priests lacked unlimited sexual access to unwilling women or children. Mind you, I would imagine that's not what the "academic" would define as "abuse". The "academic" thinks providing priests with more women would solve some kind of problem. The only solution is depriving them of their political, economic, and cultural power.

Agreed. The whole concept of providing priests with more women infers that it is somehow within women's domain to "fix" abusers and pedophiles, that they are objects to be traded, used and manipulated to correct what is essentially a male problem, a result of a rigid patriarchal power structure both within the church and outside it.

6079_Smith_W

Even if he was talking about allowing women in the church to have more power and influence - something that would be good, quite independent of this - the church is actually moving in the opposite direction, even under the new boy's watch:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/11/no-more-mr-nice-pope-va...

Not the only case of progressive elements being systematically quashed since JPII took control. 

I suppose Frances felt he had to throw someone under the bus as a concession. No surprise who it wound up being.

rhubarb

I question to what extent the "sin of suicide" contributes to this, by that I mean if you are raised within the church your body is not yours, it belongs to god and the church speaks for god.   This dogma, taught from infancy, is powerful, apparently even more powerful than the need to protect one's children.

As long as they have believers they will continue and while the number of believers may be decreasing here, they are moving into Africa and Asia where they will have new opportunities to victimize children.

In my view,  the catholic church is corrupt and it should be charged with crimes against humanity. 

Unionist

rhubarb wrote:

I question to what extent the "sin of suicide" contributes to this, by that I mean if you are raised within the church your body is not yours, it belongs to god and the church speaks for god.   This dogma, taught from infancy, is powerful, apparently even more powerful than the need to protect one's children.

Still, it's an idea I hadn't considered, and it would save the judicial system lots of time and valuable resources - so long as it's voluntary, of course, and done with dignity.

Encouragements and implements of suicide may be forwarded to:

His Holiness, Pope Francis
Apostolic Palace
00120 Vatican City 

NDPP

rhubarb wrote:

In my view,  the catholic church is corrupt and it should be charged with crimes against humanity. 

I agree. There is a long, well-documented continuing history of institutionalized child abuse within the Catholic church, it has managed to largely evade answer for.  The Abrahamic religions, with their male dominator god, generally tend to be violent, mysogynistic and anti-children. With theocratic powers and/or influence upon state affairs they become even more pernicious.  Whenever you encounter 'god gave this land to me' or 'a belief in the supremacy of god and the rule of law,' like our own 'Dominion', you just know it ain't going to be good, especially for women and kids...

rhubarb

Unionist wrote:

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Still, it's an idea I hadn't considered, and it would save the judicial system lots of time and valuable resources - so long as it's voluntary, of course, and done with dignity.

Encouragements and implements of suicide may be forwarded to:

His Holiness, Pope Francis
Apostolic Palace
00120 Vatican City 

I can't find an emoticon that adequately expresses my shock and subsequent amusement at that, thanks Unionist. 

 

NDPP

Bill Clinton's Name Found 21 Times in Rich Sex Offender's Phone Book (and vid)

http://rt-tv.f29hgb.ru/usa/220383-clinton-epstein-sex-offender/

"...In the civil lawsuit complaint, Virginia Roberts alleges that she was used as a sex slave by billionaire hedge fund manager Jeffrey Epstein. She claims Epstein made her have sex with his political and business contacts, including on three occasions with British royal, Prince Andrew.

The lawsuit also reveals Clinton took multiple trips between 2002 to 2005 to the billionaire's private island in the Caribbean, where underage girls were reportedly kept hidden away."

 

Clinton! Epstein! Dubya! Ken Starr! Neocons! War!

http://cannonfire.blogspot.ca/2015/01/clinton-and-kidfucker-epstein-link...

"Folks, what we are seeing may be the Ultimate Neocon Scandal."

 

Operation: DeathEaters

https://twitter.com/opdeatheaters

"The objective of #OpDeathEaters is an independent, international, victim-led tribunal/inquiry into trafficking and paedosadist industry."

NDPP
jas

US lawyer Dershowitz sues in Prince Andrew sex claim case

Key questions answered in Prince Andrew 'sex slave' case

 

Why is it that Babblers only ever want to talk about Catholic priests?

jas
jas
NDPP

Westminster Paedophile Ring: Top Tory MP 'Murdered Girl at Vile Orgy' Claims New Witness

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/westminster-paedophile-ring-top-tor...

"...The former treasurer of the Paedophile Information Exchange, Napier was jailed last month after pleading guilty to 31 counts of indecent assault against boys as young as eight at a school where he worked. Napier, 67, is the half-brother of Conservative MP John Whittingdale. Righton, who died in 2007, was one of Britain's leading specialists in child care - but was also a founder of the Paedophile Information Exchange. Darren's statements directly supports a claim made in Parliament by Labour MP Tom Watson, which linked Righton to a VIP paedophile ring..."

jas

NDPP wrote:

"... Righton, who died in 2007, was one of Britain's leading specialists in child care - but was also a founder of the Paedophile Information Exchange. Darren's statements directly supports a claim made in Parliament by Labour MP Tom Watson, which linked Righton to a VIP paedophile ring..."

Paedophile Peter Righton advised Home Office on policy

But yeah, let's talk about Catholic priests.

 

rhubarb

Watching the Epstein video, it is appears that he sees being questioned as an annoyance that he must suffer briefly and given the consequences for his actions, he is correct. 

As for the prince, he too seems to fall into this category, simply because even after Epstein served his token luxury sentence the prince continued his friendship with him.  

These are people who know they can do whatever they want, to whomever they want, whenever they want. 

Jas, thanks for the links.  I was not aware that babblers only want to talk about catholics, babblers is that true?.  It seems you find this annoying, yes, no?  I find it annoying when someone simply posts links, in fact if someone is only posting links I tend not to follow them.

 

jas

rhubarb wrote:
I was not aware that babblers only want to talk about catholics, babblers is that true?.

Well, sometimes they'll talk about Anglican priests.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Similarly, when they talk about dog attacks and maulings it's always pitbulls -- NEVER chihauhaus.

Unionist

rhubarb wrote:
I was not aware that babblers only want to talk about catholics, babblers is that true?. 

Why of course. Babblers all support child abuse, except when it's by Catholics. Another brilliant observation brought to you by, a babbler.

On a more serious note, I do wish a speedy recovery to the genius who came up with this one.

 

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

Similarly, when they talk about dog attacks and maulings it's always pitbulls -- NEVER chihauhaus.

I've actually heard that huge packs of chihuahuas have been known to descend upon and devour people.   Could be an urban legend but still...who wouldn't want to see Tara Reid in CHIHUAHUANADO?

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Movie tagline:  "Any dog can nip, but it takes a Chihuahuanado to NIP A MAN TO DEATH".

jas

I'm glad that we all care about child sexual abuse and the implications of high-level pedophile criminality. Glad that's straightened out.

Conspiracy of Silence (unaired documentary from 1993)

 

NDPP

Prince Andrew to Break Silence on 'Sex Slave' Scandal?

http://pagesix.com/2015/01/19/prince-andrew-to-break-silence-on-sex-slav...

"The Duke of York is moving forward with his annual reception for 300 business titans and politicians at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Thursday, the Times of London reported.

Any mention of the scandal will be in vague terms and offer denials without naming his accuser or specifying the allegations, the paper reported..."

 

Allen Dershowitz's Recurring Nightmare: Accusations of Involvement in Sex Scandal May Be Older Than You Thought

http://abovethelaw.com/2015/01/alan-dershowitzs-recurring-nightmare-accu...

NDPP

Is Jeffrey Epstein Another Madoff? Or...Something Else?

http://cannonfire.blogspot.ca/2015/01/is-jeffrey-epstein-another-madoff....

"...The Israel connection. To be frank, I do not enjoy writing about this aspect of the story, because I don't want to be classified as one of those writers who see the dark hand of Mossad everywhere.

But there is -- how to put it? -- a disturbing, recurrent motif in the saga of Jeff Epstein, who is a strong supporter of Israeli causes..."

NDPP

#OperationDeathEaters: Anonymous Hactivists Protest Historic Child Sex Abuse

http://rt.com/uk/232143-anonymous-op-death-eater/

"Hactivist group Anonymous will descend upon the houses of 'elite' establishment figures whom they claim have been involved in an extensive cover-up of historic sex abuse and trafficking.

Activists say the aim of the protest, taking place on the evening of Friday, February 13, was not to cause havoc, but to raise awareness of the 'pedosadist industry'..."

NDPP

Epstein Child Sex Scandal Only Beginning (and vid)

http://youtu.be/r-rn6wkPGzQ

"...A story so under-handled by corporate media..."

jas

NDPP wrote:
Epstein Child Sex Scandal Only Beginning (and vid)

http://youtu.be/r-rn6wkPGzQ 

Definitely weird. Criminal immunity for all and potential co-conspirators? Wow.

NDPP

Droit du Seigneur...

 

NDPP

'Dirty War' : MI5 Accused of Complicity in Historical NI Child Abuse

http://rt.com/uk/232691-abuse-cover-up-mi5/

"One of the biggest scandals of our time,' says Amnesty. 'The allegations could scarcely be more serious - that MI5 used a pedophile ring at the boys' home for its own intelligence-gathering purposes and then blocked police investigations..."

NDPP

Cannonfire: Unbelievable!

http://cannonfire.blogspot.ca/2015/02/unbelievable.html

"The NY Post has published a piece claiming that Bill Clinton's 'libido' will derail Hillary's [presidential' career..."

NDPP

Pedophilia in Britain 'Woven Into The Fabric of Society' - Theresa May

http://rt.com/uk/240777-uk-sex-children-may/

"As the UK has launched a new judge-led inquiry panel to investigate a pedophile ring operated in the 1980s, the Home Secretary warns the allegations are just the 'tip of the iceberg' and the problem is 'woven, covertyly into the fabric of our socieity.'

She then relayed a meeting she had with one of the victims of past abuse, who told her: 'Get this inquiry right adn it will be like a stick of Blackpool rock (a layered candy). You will see abuse through every level of society.'

Aside from public institutions, the probe may also lead to the highest levels of British society."

I think sexual abuse of vulnerable children is a feature of anglo-saxon dominator societies. Canada too.

Sineed

NDPP wrote:
I think sexual abuse of vulnerable children is a feature of anglo-saxon dominator societies.

That's an optimistic viewpoint. I think it's world-wide.

jas

Ontario former deputy education minister Ben Levin convicted with counselling to commit sexual assault on a child (among other things)

Otherwise he's an upstanding citizen who has won numerous awards for his contribution to, um, education.

NDPP

'UK Shy of Enough Land To Lock Up All Child Abusers' (and audio)

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/05/31/413725/UK-child-sex-abuse-prison

"Britain's child protection chief says the UK does not have enough land to build prisons and put all of its child sex abusers behind bars.

shartal@rogers.com

Some of these posts overlook the observation that pedophiles deliberately join organizations that have access to children. It is possible that if married people were allowed to join the priesthood the priesthood might be less appealing to predators...but it would never be even a sufficient eliminator of preditors on its own. Screening and accountability must be included..

NDPP

Janner 'Violated, Raped & Tortured' Children on Westminster Palace Estate, MP Alleges

http://rt.com/uk/269329-lord-janner-sexual-abuse/

"Lord Janner of Braunstone was accused under parliamentary privilege on Tuesday of being a 'serial child abuser' who sexually attacked children on the Palace of Westminster estate.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) revealed in April sufficient evidence had been uncovered to prosecute Tanner with 22 separate child sex offenses relating to the period between 1969 and 1988..."

NDPP

Paedophilia: Britain's Dark Secret (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/Video/2015/06/22/416961/Paedophilia-Britain-Jimmy...

"How far and widespread does institutional child abuse really go in Britain?"

NDPP

UK Body To Probe 'Police Failure' in Child Abuse Claim Against Ex-PM

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/08/03/423111/UK-ex-PM-Edward-Heath-ch...

"The UK police monitoring body says it will investigate whether the British law enforcement failed to probe an allegation of child sex abuse against former prime minister Edward Heath in the 1990s..."

 

Sputnik - Ep 083

http://www.rt.com/shows/sputnik/311328-CSA-scandal-war-poverty/

"...a substantial section of our rulers were unspeakable perverts."

 

ABC 60 Minutes: Spies, Lords & Predators (and vid)

http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/60minutes/stories/2015/july/spies-lords-a...

NDPP

'Sir Edward Heath Abused My 14 yo Friend.'

http://www.rt.com/uk/311865-edward-heath-saville-nephew/

"Marsden was 13 when his uncle started taking him to 'pedophile parties' in central London."

 

Court Appearance Obligatory for Lord Janner Over 22 Child Sex Charges Despite Dementia Judge Rules

http://www.rt.com/uk/311832-lord-janner-abuse-case/

"Lord Janner must appear in court to face historic child sex abuse charges, a judge has ruled, despite the former Labour peer's legal team saying he is 'unfit' to stand trial due to dementia. Janner, 87, faces 22 charges of child sex offences which are alleged to have taken place in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s."

NDPP

Duplessis Orphans (S3E8 - and vid)

https://www.rt.com/shows/in-the-now-summary/325769-duplessis-orphans-atr...

"A story of an atrocity against children [a Canadian/Catholic specality!], a cover-up and the sheer strength of survivors. One Canadian 'Duplessis Orphan' shares what she had to go through..."

NDPP

Lord Janner: Chances Missed To Prosecute Inquiry Finds

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35352809

"Three chances were missed to prosecute late peer Lord Janner."

 

Lord Janner Dies Aged 87

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/lord-janner-death/

"A string of alleged sex offences against boys dating back 50 years. He was charged with 22 sexual offences dating back to the 1960s." Also VP of World Jewish Congress

NDPP

Leaked Savile Report Slams BBC Culture & Thatcher

https://www.rt.com/uk/329677-leaked-savile-report-bbc/

"The leaked inquiry found that Savile abused victims on "virtually every one of the BBC premises at which he worked."

'That's just Jimmy Savile'

https://youtu.be/puyKtlPcmzU

NDPP

MI5 'Blackmailed Pedophile Politicians' Over Belfast Boys Home

https://www.rt.com/uk/344959-belfast-abuse-mi5-inquiry/

"An inquiry into allegations of mistreatment - including sexual abuse - at a Belfast boys' home has restarted amid claims MI5 agents knew about the alleged abuses but chose to use them to blackmail pedophile public figures.

The inquiry will hear from claimants who allege a VIP pedophile ring preyed on those who lived there..."

Another cautionary example perhaps for those indifferent to increasing powers and lessening accountability of our monstrous intelligence agencies, 'Five Eyes' etc. These are the kinds of things they are not above perpetrating...