Comedy and the NDP leadership race

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Catchfire Catchfire's picture

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The guy between Cullen and Singh looks more like Ron Paul.

I'm pretty sure that's Mulcair. Is there a subtle message here?

You're right, though. The drawings are terrible. Cartooning in the country is a disgrace.

David Young

You need to see more of Bruce MacKinnon's cartoons in the Chronically Horrid....er, I mean the Chronicle Herald!

His take on what things are going on is nothing short of magical.

theleftyinvestor

Catchfire wrote:

Quote:
The guy between Cullen and Singh looks more like Ron Paul.

I'm pretty sure that's Mulcair. Is there a subtle message here?

You're right, though. The drawings are terrible. Cartooning in the country is a disgrace.

Oy I'd never thought of that one as Mulcair just because he looks so short.

theleftyinvestor

David Young wrote:

You need to see more of Bruce MacKinnon's cartoons in the Chronically Horrid....er, I mean the Chronicle Herald!

His take on what things are going on is nothing short of magical.

 

I can't see any of his in the last few weeks. Do you have links to his NDP toons?

theleftyinvestor

Oh boy. This one you're going to love or hate:

 

http://www.ledevoir.com/galeries-photos/les-caricatures-de-garnotte/88684

Winston

@theleftyinvestor:

Whether you love or hate the implications, you have to admit that the cartoon is spectacularly funny!  Le Devoir's cartoons are really quite good; they're a large part of the reason I continue to pay $15 for my online subscription.

I especially love how Harper is NEVER depicted without a picture of the Queen, and how none of his cabinet is ever depicted not wearing a cowboy hat.

JeffWells

theleftyinvestor wrote:

Oh boy. This one you're going to love or hate:

I love it and hate it! Which means it's a great editorial cartoon.

 

Rabble_Incognito

knownothing wrote:

I think it would be funny if one of the candidates made a satirical negative ad. Something like the ones the GOP are running in the states. You could make a funny one about Mulcair, "Oooh he likes his Che Guevara beret, OOOOhh he is a seperatist, OOOOh he is moving the party to the centre." Put all this creepy music in it and have blood running down the screen. It might help later on when the Tories do the real thing.

That would be funny.

Indeedy. Do a number of them and pick and choose depending on what the Tories whine about...just get clips of him doing normal things, rely on the blood - very cool and probably fun to do.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

The title of this thread is a tautology.

theleftyinvestor

Or perhaps a ShitMulcairDidn't.

algomafalcon

Idealistic Pragmatist wrote:

Canadian-UK blogger Polygonic has a series of imitations of the different leadership candidates:

http://polygonic.wordpress.com/2012/03/03/the-ndp-leadership-candidates-...

 

Thanks! The guy is a great comic. I laughed so much. Polygonic for PM!

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

theleftyinvestor wrote:

http://www.thestar.com/special/article/990436--editorial-cartoons#.T2Sx4...

There's eight here... maybe the cartoon was drawn a little while ago? Presumably Ashton and Nash are the women with and without glasses respectively. Paul Dewar is recognizable on the right, and Singh on the left. And I guess the bald guy is Cullen? But none of the others particularly look like Mulcair, Saganash or Topp. The guy between Cullen and Singh looks more like Ron Paul.

Singh looks like a Cossack, for some reason.

jerrym

I think the guy kneeling is Mulcair. He seems to have a beard and is stockier than Singh.

flight from kamakura

hitler meme hits the topp campaign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtU_898DyhA

wage zombie

that hitler video is pretty funny.

Michelle

As I said a while back, the Downfall meme never gets old. :D  I guess the Mulcair campaign has figured that out too!  Funny video.

doofy

Gives you an idea how the candidates are viewed in QC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44jGYM27Pw

(6:20)

Unionist

doofy wrote:

Gives you an idea how the candidates are viewed in QC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44jGYM27Pw

(6:20)

Disgusting and not amusing. And your comment is nonsense.

 

flight from kamakura

actually, aside from the part about nicky ashton, that info man video is hilarious.  the brian topp clip had me spit out my tea.

Unionist

flight from kamakura wrote:

actually, aside from the part about nicky ashton, that info man video is hilarious.  the brian topp clip had me spit out my tea.

But the Brian Topp clip was real, and it was simply embarrassing when I saw him say that in real time. True, I wasn't drinking tea at the time...

 

Howard

polygonic wrote:

Thanks for all your comments on the impersonations...! It was fun to do, even if I had a pang about a couple of them. Felt quite mean towards Brian Topp.... :-( .... but then I reviewed his performance on some CTV interview a short while back, and felt it was painfully accurate....!

Well done polygonic! I enjoyed all of them.

theleftyinvestor

Well my initial post did specify that "was-supposed-to-be-funny" is also fair game for this thread. So thanks for posting, because we don't always get a chance to see this stuff.

theleftyinvestor

Well my initial post did specify that "was-supposed-to-be-funny" is also fair game for this thread. So thanks for posting, because we don't always get a chance to see this stuff.

Rabble_Incognito

Michelle wrote:

Man, it's like being rickrolled.  The thread title says "Comedy and the NDP leadership race" so I think I'm going to see a collection of comedy clips about the NDP leadership race - and the majority of the posts in it turn out to be a clone of the punditry already happening in the neverending NDP leadership race threads. ;)

Here's the video of that Rick's Rant posted above.

This video is from 22 Minutes - it's pretty funny.  Getting to know the candidates - it's from a while back.

I watched the Rick's Rant, the first one Michelle. I personally didn't find it very funny it even felt 'forced'. I guess I don't believe a leadership competition has to be like some kind of choreographed drama designed to draw in voter interest like an insecure actor, waving his hands. Did you notice by the way how much Mercer physically moves - the hand waving?

It is Mercer's job to entertain, or educate me, with irony and the like, and he did neither. I didn't find him engaging except in the same way someone finds the three stooges engaging, but Mercer has 1/5 the talent of those three - for me, he's a famous guy wearing expensive clothes, entering the camera view in a carefully choreographed manner, against a graffiti 'everyman' backdrop in the inner city (for effect), practicing hand movements and polite hystrionics. If this weren't a Canadian I think people would be saying Who is this glib nobody with no talent for comedy writing?

No wonder they had to use a laugh track. If he presented that in Vegas he'd get boo'd, it is just plain poor comedy writing. And the last line "If you can't engage voters, you don't deserve voters" I'd be interested to hear what others think of this remark. It reminds me of poor teachers in school who resorted to entertainment in an effort to reach the students who didn't give a damn.

The 22 Minutes segment was fun. The writing was a little better, and even if the people weren't themselves actors, the stiff host with his own agenda and odd, rude manner was amusing - PN was great MS had a laugh, and the Mulcair pieces were great - I could tell his mouth was actually readying to speak as the announcer cut him off, it was priceless.

Rabble_Incognito

I submit if Mercer knew anything at all about the NDP, he'd know the NDP engages people by listening to people. Like activists, ffs, and not pepper spraying them in the face. If I'm missing Mercer's ironic intent, please tell me. I don't feel it.

theleftyinvestor

AFAIK Mercer doesn't use a laugh track for the rants - they play the tape in front of the same live audience that comes for the filming, who laugh/applaud on cue, and record that into the final broadcast. At least that's what they did the time I once saw Mercer in the first few seasons of the show.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

What's the difference between using a laugh track and using a live audience that laughs and applauds on cue?

Nothing.

Winston

I find Rick Mercer to be a completely unfunny, self-aggrandizing, pompous knob, unlike the show which he left, which continues on occasion to be funny and engaging.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

M. Spector wrote:

What's the difference between using a laugh track and using a live audience that laughs and applauds on cue?

Nothing.

When I was a kid, it was the golden age of laugh-tracks on the sitcoms down here.  I always wondered what the increbidly funny stuff was that the canned laughter audience was listening to.

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Hoodeet

Here's an old song (circa 1795) for the convention.

 

Tom, Tom was a piper's son,
He learned to play when he was young.
And all the tune that he could play
Was over the hills and far away;
Over the hills is a great way off.
The wind shall blow my top-knot off.
Tom with his pipe made such a noise,
That he pleased both the girls and boys,
And they all stopped to hear him play,
'Over the hills and far away'.
Tom with his pipe did play with such skill
That those who heard him could never keep still;
As soon as he played they began for to dance,
Even the pigs on their hind legs
would after him dance.
As Dolly was milking her cow one day,
Tom took his pipe and began to play;
So Dolly and the cow danced 'The Cheshire Round',
Till the pail was broken and the milk ran on the ground.
He met old Dame Trot with a basket of eggs,
He used his pipe and she used her legs;
She danced about till the eggs were all broke,
She began for to fret, but he laughed at the joke.
Tom saw a cross fellow was beating an ass,
Heavy laden with pots, pans, dishes, and glass;
He took out his pipe and he played them a tune,
And the poor donkey's load was lightened full soon.

 

theleftyinvestor

Fourth Ballot Deodorant (RMR)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx0u1y_bgyk

 

Rabble_Incognito

Winston wrote:

I find Rick Mercer to be a completely unfunny, self-aggrandizing, pompous knob, unlike the show which he left, which continues on occasion to be funny and engaging.

Me too. I just watched the RMR Fourth Ballot Deodorant video clip thanks Lefty here and again, the guy just isn't a funny comedian - he tries with costume in this one and a hair do, but his humour in this one just strikes me as glib and stupid, there's no theme except for his silly personal stereotypes on what NDPers 'must be' like.

Now the 'nom nom nom' piece, that was funny - it was quiet and understated like the sound of chewing maybe, I mean it accomplishes so much with so little it's awesome.

Idealistic Prag... Idealistic Pragmatist's picture

I stopped watching Rick Mercer's supposedly "comedic" pieces about the NDP after this clip. Not so much because it hit me where it hurt--although it did--but because there wasn't anything even slightly true about it, which would have been the only thing that would have made it remotely funny.

Even worse, there were so many missed bets if you really wanted to do a comedy bit about Rahim Jaffer's loss! Being a comedian, which of the following spins would you put on that story?

1. Rahim Jaffer gives his victory speech, then finds out he actually lost and hides in the kitchen for an hour!

2. Rahim Jaffer is so despondent over his loss that he gets married the day after the election without telling his parents first, and then talks about how he did it because his new wife had "caught him in a weak moment"!

3. Rahim Jaffer is beaten by a lightweight who didn't work very hard for it!

Only Rick Mercer would pick option three.

janfromthebruce

IP, I never saw that clip before and must have missed that one. But you are so right - he used "her" to get at "him" - the different ways one could have "read" what Rick was trying to suggest is low and cheap.

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

 

In search of the Cat Truth at the NDP leadership convention

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You may find yourself asking "who is this NDP, and why should they threaten me?" Until very recently, the NDP has been a fringe group of radicals, known for occasionally electing a Member of Parliament. They like to claim responsibility for some of the most horrific and devastating public policy decisions in Canadian history, such as the socializing of medicine, or the Canadarm.

No doubt due to my high-profile in the Cat Journalism community, I received an anonymous tip that this shady faction would be meeting to name their next leader. I approached the editors at Rabble, who were as surprised as I was that the group was still active. After all, we know that Canadians stand proudly behind the balanced and fair decisions of our Prime Minister. Only enviro-union-separatists backed by foreign interests would dare question his flawless leadership.

 

Michelle

I like all the Mercer clips, but the Jaffer-Duncan one, while it would be funny if Duncan really was a name-on-the-ballot-only like many of the NDP MPs who got elected in Quebec, is just factually incorrect, and therefore misses the "funny" mark to anyone who knows that she actually campaigned like hell and was no paper-only candidate.

In fact, I'd even say that it is sexist - showing a picture of the female winner and joking that she filled out a card at the shopping mall and was told she won.

I don't discount his other videos, though, because of it.  I thought the Fourth Ballot Deodorant one was great.

Michelle

The Cat Reporter thing sounds like it has the potential to be funny, Catchfire. :)  radiorahim and I always joke that if cats could vote (especially OUR cat), they'd vote Conservative.

theleftyinvestor

Aaaand one more for the road...

Catchfire Catchfire's picture
theleftyinvestor

theleftyinvestor

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/22%20Minutes/Clips/ID=2215986853

Mark Critch at the convention.

Love the segment where he rants with Peter Mansbridge and then the camera pans out to a giggling Olivia Chow and Stephen Lewis.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Michelle wrote:

By the way, polygonic, I'm surprised you didn't add the "I'm a small business owner" thing to the Singh video.  I think he works that into just about everything he says publicly! :)

Q: how do you successfully build a small business in Canada?

A: start with a big business and let time do it for you.

mtm

This is very much an homage to Stephen Colbert one would imagine

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcf55m2PRhg&feature=share

Michelle

Catchfire, that cat reporter video was hilarious!

theleftyinvestor
Winston

theleftyinvestor wrote:

From Rick Mercer:

Cranky Ed's Insanely Bitter Lemon:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=b9P_RQ0rlTQ

As unfunny as only Rick Mercer can possibly be!

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