Erin Weir accused of "harassment"

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Unionist

I came to know of Erin Weir through his contributions to the Progressive Economics Forum. I believe he stopped posting when he was elected in 2015. I'm just hoping the NDP gets on with it. I can't even begin to imagine why an investigation of this nature would take any length of time. And the lack of transparency is distressing. The deadline for would-be complainants to come forward was February 20 - and even after that date, Weir had not been informed of any allegations.

 

6079_Smith_W

Yup. There is a point at which one should get off the pot.

Meanwhile another Sask Party MLA has jumped that ship and gotten the nomination to try and unseat him in the next election. Leaving this issue unresolved gives them ammunition.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/regina-lewvan-sask-party-warr...

cco

6079_Smith_W wrote:

If I was to say to someone in Nunavut or Quebec that if they resent central Canadian power they should just move I can imagine the response I would get.

Drift, but I thought "central Canada" was a term used by alienated westerners to define Ontario and Québec as a single unit, working in lockstep to dominate the federal government and overrule the west/Maritimes. Does it just mean Ontario now?

6079_Smith_W

Don't say that too loud either, or we'll never hear the end of it.

but /drift

 

Unionist

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Don't say that too loud either, or we'll never hear the end of it.

but /drift

LOL! Yeah cco, let's steer clear of the regional divisions and just talk about Erin Weir for now. I like him, hope I don't end up regretting that, but most importantly, I'd like to see the New Democratic Party acting more New and Democratic and less like a Party.

Unionist

Mobo2000 wrote:

I think the over/under on that should be set at 6 months.    Maybe by then we'll hear the results of TVO's investigation in to the Steve Paiken / Sarah Tomson allegations as well.

Well, TVO has done its work:

TVO host Steve Paikin cleared by investigator after sexual harassment accusations

Now perhaps the NDP will tell the public - or at least, the accused - what's going on with Erin Weir?

Unionist

So apparently, according to this April 25 Canadian Press story, the report on the investigation has actually now been in Jagmeet Singh's hands for almost 2 weeks - though I can't find any reference to that in the English-language media. Here's my rough translation:

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The future of MP Erin Weir within the NDP still seems uncertain, even though an independent report on the harassment allegations against him has been in the hands of NDP leader Jagmeet Singh for a week now. [...]

Questioned by journalists on Wednesday as to what would happen with Mr. Weir, the NDP leader would say only that he would follow "the process", without being able to explain what that process was.

An attaché of Mr. Weir wouldn't say whether the MP had been informed of the report's conclusions, which have not been made public. Jagmeet Singh did not promise to make the report public, indicating that he would follow the advice of the lawyer who wrote the report before deciding whether it was appropriate to release it.

 

Mobo2000

Ha, thanks Unionist I saw the TVO thing as well, guess I would have lost my own bet there.

I also hope we get some clarity on Erin Weir, this sentence from the Canadian press story is very curious:

"An attaché of Mr. Weir wouldn't say whether the MP had been informed of the report's conclusions, which have not been made public."

I am assuming that were he exonerated, he'd be happy to share that.  But who knows, and you know what they say about assumptions.

 

Mighty Middle Mighty Middle's picture

Investigation finds multiple complaints of harassment against NDP's Weir: sources

What was the harassment about? The Carbon Tax!

Weir claims "trumped-up" complaint is punishment for wandering off-script on carbon pricing

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/investigation-finds-multiple-complaints-...

6079_Smith_W

Wow. What a dog's breakfast.

So are these multiple revelations likely to help or hinder his narrow hold on the seat in the next election, if he gets the nomination.

Unionist

Mighty Middle wrote:

Investigation finds multiple complaints of harassment against NDP's Weir: sources

What was the harassment about? The Carbon Tax!

Weir claims "trumped-up" complaint is punishment for wandering off-script on carbon pricing

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/investigation-finds-multiple-complaints-...

Wow. I have no words. And still no public disclosure, let alone decision?

 

Debater

There's a video clip here from Power & Politics where Catherine Cullen discusses the results of the NDP Investigation:

https://twitter.com/PnPCBC/status/991432893158195200

6079_Smith_W

Gee. call me old fashioned, but there is something to be said for political parties obsessed with the simple things in life, like money and power. Oh, and dealing with messy problems like this in the back room, if the big deal is that nobody is supposed to be able to know anything, including the leader of the party.

The conservatives just nominated a candidate for the seat. Maybe they should just hand it over now. It's not like people in this province worked hard to redraw the boundaries so the NDP actually had a chance to get seats, and if Weir is telling the truth it sounds like they don't want him around anyway.

And I am sure there are plenty in Saskatchewan who will happy to see it be a field of blue and Ralph Goodale again.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..without meaning to distract or downplay the accusations, i didn't understand why weir's position on carbon pricing would be so contentious..so i went and dug it up. now i understand why the ndp was freaking out.

Carbon Tariffs and Rebates

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A key advantage of Ottawa’s involvement is that it has jurisdiction over international trade. Unlike the provinces, the federal government could collect carbon tariffs on imports and provide export rebates. A national carbon price that also applies at the border would support domestic production to the extent that it is cleaner than imports.

Producing a ton of steel in China and shipping it here emits five times as much carbon as manufacturing it at Evraz. Therefore, the carbon tariff on Chinese steel would be five times the carbon tax on Regina steel, enabling Evraz to gain a larger share of the Canadian market.

With an export rebate, sales of steel from Evraz or of petroleum products from the Co-op Refinery to the US and other countries that do not price carbon would be unaffected.

These facilities would still have a clear incentive to cut emissions in order to reduce the carbon cost of their domestic sales. Indeed, addressing international competitiveness concerns would enable us to be more ambitious in pricing carbon and go further in reducing emissions.

Applying carbon pricing at the border is environmentally and economically desirable, but is it practical? A carbon tariff would not violate international trade agreements: it would simply extend the same pricing system to imports as to domestic production.

6079_Smith_W

Yup. And Evraz also rolled out much of the steel for the Keystone pipeline, so it is an issue on that front as well.

But yes, assuming these accusations are real, the NDP seem to be handling them in the absolutely worst possible way, starting with the way in which they came to light.

NorthReport

Looks like it is getting to be crunch time.

NDP leader Singh huddles with caucus after MP's explosive allegations

jagmeet Singh

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-leader-singh-huddles-with-caucus-aft...

bekayne

NorthReport wrote:

Looks like it is getting to be crunch time.

NDP leader Singh huddles with caucus after MP's explosive allegations

jagmeet Singh

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/ndp-leader-singh-huddles-with-caucus-aft...

Isn't Wednesday always caucus day?

NorthReport

 

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Sources confirm that the NDP caucus was read a summary of the report on Weir's alleged actions last Wednesday. MPs were told information would soon be released publicly, pending consultations with the complainants.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/investigation-finds-multiple-complaints-...

Unionist

So CBC and CTV quote passages from Erin Weir's media release. Are we allowed to see the full release? Does anyone have a link?

 

Mobo2000

Epaulo:   Why do you think the NDP freaked out about Weir's carbon proposal?   It seems like a good idea to me, but I am not well informed on this stuff.  

ETA -- apologies for thread drift, but I do think there is some relevance here as it is part of Weir's defence.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Mobo2000 wrote:

Epaulo:   Why do you think the NDP freaked out about Weir's carbon proposal?   It seems like a good idea to me, but I am not well informed on this stuff.  

ETA -- apologies for thread drift, but I do think there is some relevance here as it is part of Weir's defence.

..i like weir's take on it carbon policy as well. at the very least i believe it deserves a serious look and/or debate. and it goes beyond anywhere the ndp leadership is willing to go. for me it crosses over the line into effectiveness. it would also rain wrath from countries and corporations that want minimal constraints..so i imagine fear as a motivator. fear also that a backlash could loose them votes. 

Unionist

epaulo13 wrote:

..without meaning to distract or downplay the accusations, i didn't understand why weir's position on carbon pricing would be so contentious..so i went and dug it up. now i understand why the ndp was freaking out.

Thanks for this find, epaulo! This whole episode is starting to make some sense.

Mobo2000

Yes, thanks.   I laughed at this:

" it goes beyond anywhere the ndp leadership is willing to go. for me it crosses over the line into effectiveness."

So true it almost hurts.

6079_Smith_W

Whether one agrees with his position or not, if this is true it is outrageous. And even if it is not, the way they have handled it is equally so.

 

Mighty Middle Mighty Middle's picture

6079_Smith_W wrote:

Whether one agrees with his position or not, if this is true it is outrageous. And even if it is not, the way they have handled it is equally so.

 

making a mountain out of a molehill

 

NorthReport
NorthReport
R.E.Wood

So Singh has expelled Erin Weir from caucus, because he broke silence and talked to the media! 

But, in a twist, Weir is not being kicked out because of the report's findings, but for speaking to the media.

Weir spoke to CBC News earlier this week following news that a third-party investigation uncovered multiple harassment complaints. One complainant told CBC News that Weir spoke to her in an angry and belligerent way and that she felt physically intimidated.

According to a statement from the Weir's office, Singh's chief of staff asked Weir to stop commenting on the story.

"When Singh's chief of staff asked Weir to stop commenting that evening, he complied. Singh then notified Weir just before midnight on May 2 that he is being expelled from caucus, not because of the report's findings but because Weir commented publicly and Singh deemed that unacceptable," reads the statement.

"Expulsion is a vastly harsher punishment than applied to many other New Democratic MPs who have, at times, commented publicly without the Leader's explicit authorization."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/erin-weir-caucus-ndp-1.4646224

6079_Smith_W

So it is fine for them to make public accusations against him, but if he responds it means expulsion.

josh

What a mess.

Mighty Middle Mighty Middle's picture

Former NDP MPP Paul Ferreira tweets

Utterly dismayed by my former federal party’s handling — bumbling! — of the Erin Weir situation. I’m afraid Jagmeet Singh is failing test of leadership, with likely dire consequences for party next year. How soon does “not up to job” enter picture?

From NDP Jagmeet Singh statement: “The report found that when Mr. Weir was told the advances were unwanted, he stopped.” Isn’t that what Erin Weir was supposed to do? He is being railroaded! Singh fails epically, NDP loses good MP. Sad day all around.

https://twitter.com/Paul_TO

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