I would pour large quantities of salt on any 'estimate' of how people would rank candidates and how that 'would' play out, it doesn't show come election time. I do know that the last election in BC did demonstrate that polls tracking preference and intent were way off final results, but not so far off if we go by tradition returns, which show centre-right liberal-leaners ALWAYS prefering the right over the left, when it comes down to it. ER would only be one step in mitigating that one.
It's great that the electoral reform movement in Canada has had an impact on the policies of the NDP, Liberals, and Greens. As things stand now it looks like both the NDP and Liberals may put electoral reform on their 2015 election platforms, so if the NDP ends up leading a government they will be able to establish MMP and if the Liberals find themselves leading a government they will be able to establish PV. Having electoral reform supported on party platforms is a majour step in the right direction for electoral reform in Canada. It has given the political parties the ability to establish the electoral system they feel is most democratic.
Do anti-PVers like chamberred that a second choice (PV) which means your not elected without 50% is LESS DEMOCRATIC than FPTP ?
PV (fairly simple) first then Proportional (big change)
I feel "anti-PVer" is a bit too strong a term for me. Quote me in context explicitly saying I think PV is less democratic than FPP.
What would motivate the camps that win power owing to PV, to relinquish their new-found advantage by moving toward something more proportionally representative than PV? (x3)
Conservatives support FPP. That's the only way they'll get absolute corrupt power on a minority of the vote.
Like every Chretien majority. (Actually, since more than 2 parties started contending, only 3 majority governments won over 50% of the popular vote: Mulroney '84- 50.03% of vote and 74.8% of seats; Diefenbaker '58- 53.66% of vote, 78.5% of seats; Mackenzie King '40- 51.32% of vote, 73.1% of seats)
One has to wonder why some PR supporters are so zealously opposed to the ranked ballot. (Same system all parties used to elect their leaders.)...
Of course all parties use the ranked ballot to ensure their leaders are democratically elected. I'm sure you PR true-believers — who make up the vast majority of Canadians, no doubt — will show them the error of their ways.
Poor comparison. How would a party leadership function if it represented all its factions proportionally? Running a single party is not as complex as running a country like Canada.