Huge Ontario child porn bust emphasizes need for national sex offender registry

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martin dufresne
Huge Ontario child porn bust emphasizes need for national sex offender registry

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(...) police announced that the largest co-ordinated child pornography investigation of its kind in Ontario had led to a total of 93 charges laid against 31 people. Three of the accused are youths, while the oldest is a 60-year-old man.

The arrests are a direct result of, among other things, improved tools to track down alleged child pornographers on the Internet, said provincial police Commissioner Julian Fantino.

"The Internet continues to pose a threat to children, parents, and certainly we feel challenged in our ability to keep up, to keep pace, with the pervasive use being made of it by those who seek to victimize children," Fantino said.

"The arrests ... are directly attributed to the acquisition of better equipment, consistent training, centralized co-ordination and a determined effort to do all we can to protect our children."

The charges include sexual assault, sexual interference, making child pornography, distribution of child pornography, and possession of child pornography.

More charges are pending, police said.

Fantino said the reality for police is that they are in "catch-up mode" when it comes to arresting perpetrators. He said while he and his colleagues must follow the parameters of the law, those making and distributing child pornography are constantly trying to stay a step ahead of police. He said one solution would be for the federal government to act to improve the national sex offender registry. (...)"

I imagine that some will wring their hands about that prospect, of course.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

The connection between this story and a national sex offender registry is not clear.

For example, were any of the arrested individuals previously convicted sex offenders, and would an "improved" registry of sex offenders have made it easier for the police to crack this case?

Or is Fantino just using this story to promote an unrelated campaign? What "improvements" does he want to make, anyway?

Stargazer

I hate the term "child pornography", as if it is some alternative to adult porn. Child porn is child abuse. Period. People have said, "but it is a victimless crime". It is not a victimless crime. The videos and pictures people are looking at are pictures of a crime taking place. Every time someone downloads them, they again victimize the child. These pictures and videos are real life lines of abuse. Some from the age of 2 to 15. It is sickening.

I believe we do need a national sex offender registry. There should be limits though. I'd propose a registry for child abuse perps. not counting young men 19 and under who look at pictures of 14 year old girls. Those guys should not be on it. But any man or woman caught downloading, distributing or making child abuse pictures or videos should be put on a registry. It is incredibly hard to track them down as it is. 

 

 

 

Refuge Refuge's picture

M. Spector wrote:
would an "improved" registry of sex offenders have made it easier for the police to crack this case?

I was assuming that he was refering to the fact that they are tracking them down on the internet. 

What I was thinking was that if they find a general location for Edmonton - if they are surfing off of someone else's wireless - if there was a national sex offender registry they could run through sex offenders that live in that area from where they are investigating in Toronto rather than having to deal several different agencies to get names which would eat up time that is valuable to get those kids out of there.

Just a guesstimate though, not a professional opinion.

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I agree stargazer and was just coming in here to say the same thing.

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M. Spector M. Spector's picture

Canada already has a [url=national">http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/tops-opst/nsor-rnds/index-eng.htm][=mediu... sex offender registry.[/][/url]

Fantino says he wants an improved one. Again I ask, what improvements does he want, and what relevance do they have to this case? 

Lard Tunderin Jeezus Lard Tunderin Jeezus's picture

While I agree with the concerns of all here, I cannot help but have my doubts about this.

Fantino has built his career on news leadlines about child-porn busts, and I find the timing here awfully convenient: just as his name begins to be synonymous with incompetence, abuse of power, and racism - along comes "the largest child porn ring busted in history" to save his face for him.

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As a regular Toronto police officer, Fantino was central in one of the city's first major racial profiling scandals, when he released race-based crime statistics to the media.

Fantino generated some controversy in London, where he instituted a child pornography investigation, Project Guardian. The investigation ended up with the arrest of numerous gay men who had committed no criminal activity whatsoever, and did not successfully find any evidence of child pornography, resulting in Gerald Hannon's allegation, in a Globe and Mail op-ed entitled "The Kiddie Porn Ring That Wasn't", that the investigation was merely an exercise in homophobia.

Refuge Refuge's picture

Don't know about the Fantino deflection part but here are improvements needed

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http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0...

Registration isn't even mandatory. A prosecutor must ask a judge to add a defendant to the database, and since the law took effect, barely half of all convicted sex offenders have been ordered to sign up. The rest - thousands of molesters, child pornographers and other loathsome criminals - are under no obligation to tell police where they live........The feds are so determined to protect the rights of convicted sex offenders that most police officers are not allowed to access the system......If a young girl notices a strange man loitering around her school, authorities are not allowed to search the registry for a matching description. If she is sexually assaulted, then it's okay. But even then, local police forces can't conduct the search themselves. They must phone the RCMP......A registered offender has to inform police if he (or she) is taking a vacation, but only if it's longer than two weeks. Anything less than that (a 10-day visit to Thailand, perhaps) doesn't need to be reported......the national sex offender registry cannot tell the RCMP the most basic fact of all: when is this offender due to check in?

Sounds like these problems could have hampered their investigation a lot.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

"Could have", but did they?

 If not, Fantino is just grandstanding, as LTJ suggests.

Can the person who wrote the title of this thread explain it, or is he just being a Fantino mouthpiece?

martin dufresne

Thanks for the bait and the insult, but I'll pass. I did intuit that some would wring their hands at the prospect of improving the registry.

M. Spector M. Spector's picture

martin dufresne wrote:
Thanks for the bait and the insult, but I'll pass. I did intuit that some would wring their hands at the prospect of improving the registry.

As I suspected, you have no idea what you are talking about, but are simply parroting the words of Ontario's self-serving top cop.

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I did intuit that some would wring their hands at the prospect of improving the registry.

Did you intuit why?

It would seem that some posters have a very reasonable concern that Fantino is using this sweep to promote his own agenda, and are asking for some assurance that Fantino's proposals would have, in fact, changed the outcomes of this investigation.

It behooves us all to ask "Why?  What for?" any time the police demand new powers.

But you seem to want to categorize this as "hand wringing", and I'm going to press my fingers to my temples, Karnak-style, and guess that deep down you think they're just trying to "maintain male privelege".  Am I right?

I haven't been here all that long or all that often, but the pattern of your knee-jerk assumptions that anyone who disagrees with you is just trying to preserve penis-privelege comes through loud and clear. 

I think you've gone to that well way too many times, and given your passive-aggressive accusations and snide little slanders in this regard, I'm a little surprised you're still here (and even more surprised that you'd want to be). 

Snert Snert's picture

In the spirit of compromise, I've deleted that line entirely, and will repeat my apology, but I think my comments regarding Fantino are salient, and my rebuttal to Martin's predictable sneer you can have when you pry it from my cold dead hands. 

Maybe I just had a really controlling family or something, but I tend to have an allergic reaction to being offered the choice of agreeing with someone or being summarily regarded as bad.  I should think it would be possible to question the motives of the police, on a progressive board, without being accused of "hand wringing".

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Tommy_Paine

Particularly in the case of Julian Fantino.  I would never take anything he says at face value.   And, he's used the accusation of pedophelia for political purposes before, it seems to be a modus opperendi for him.

 Fantino knows that most people are, justifiably, quite emotional in regards to offenses against children.  And, he relies on the phenomena of "only a witch deffends a witch" psychology to silence anyone who would gainsay his never ending fucking quest for more power.

 

 

Michelle

Thanks for deleting that line, Snert.

Ze

Given that Fantino has used this tactic to arrest the innocent before, why shouldn't people be suspicious of his motives this time? 

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remind remind's picture

Thank you for removing that line snert.

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