Justin Trudeau gave Chris Wylie (Cambridge Analytical) 100K of Taxpayers Money

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Mighty Middle
Justin Trudeau gave Chris Wylie (Cambridge Analytical) 100K of Taxpayers Money

“In early 2016, Mr. Wylie’s company Eunoia Technologies ran a pilot project for the Liberal Caucus Research Bureau,” said Melissa Cotton, managing director of the Liberal Research Bureau.

The statement said Wylie’s pilot project had been contracted to do four things:

  • Design and organize several national samples of Canadians to explore responses to Government policy priorities and other issues of national importance.
  • Recruit constituents to identify a range of local or regional issues not covered in the general national polling exercises.
  • Assist the Liberal Research Bureau in setting up the infrastructure to monitor the performance of the Liberal Members of Parliament in communicating with their constituents.
  • Assist the Liberal Research Bureau in acquiring and setting up social media monitoring tools.

However, while Cotton said “preliminary work” was done by the firm, the project did not go any further.

“At no point did Eunoia Technologies have access to any data from Liberal Caucus Research Bureau.”

NDP MP Niki Ashton said on CTV today that the Privacy Commissioner needs to open up an investigation to get to the bottom of this.

SocialJustice101

I didn't find any indication it was taxpayers' dollars.   I keep seeing Liberal Party, not Liberal government.  Also, you shouldn't be posting articles without citing the source. 

Mighty Middle

SocialJustice101 wrote:

I didn't find any indication it was taxpayers' dollars.   I keep seeing Liberal Party, not Liberal government.  Also, you shouldn't be posting articles without citing the source. 

Liberal Research Bureau is the same as the Conservative Research Bureau and the NDP Research Bureau. As a recognized party in the House of Commons, they are given a yearly budget (taxpayers money) to set one up for the party caucus for their work on committees and question period.

It was out of that budget (paid by taxpayers) that 100K was paid to Chris Wylie to prepare a proposal. That actually went nowhere, except the trash. Or recycling bin.

SocialJustice101

Mighty Middle wrote:

SocialJustice101 wrote:

I didn't find any indication it was taxpayers' dollars.   I keep seeing Liberal Party, not Liberal government.  Also, you shouldn't be posting articles without citing the source. 

Liberal Research Bureau is the same as the Conservative Research Bureau and the NDP Research Bureau. As a recognized party in the House of Commons, they are given a yearly budget (taxpayers money) to set one up for the party caucus for their work on committees and question period.

It was out of that budget (paid by taxpayers) that 100K was paid to Chris Wylie to prepare a proposal. That actually went nowhere, except the trash. Or recycling bin.

Ok, but it was the party's money to allocate for their internal purposes.   The headline makes it sound like they used government money for partisan purposes, which would have been illegal.

WWWTT

Ya and Mighty Middle just told you that there is a specific tax payer fund that could be used for partisan purposes. You both can’t be right. 

SocialJustice101

"NDP uses thousands of taxpayers dollars to send partisan letters." - Would that be a fair headline?

Mighty Middle

SocialJustice101 wrote:

  The headline makes it sound like they used government money for partisan purposes, which would have been illegal.

Which is what the Conservatives and NDP say it is. That they are diverting taxpayer money for their own partisan purposes.

SocialJustice101

Mighty Middle wrote:

SocialJustice101 wrote:

  The headline makes it sound like they used government money for partisan purposes, which would have been illegal.

Which is what the Conservatives and NDP say it is. That they are diverting taxpayer money for their own partisan purposes.

But didn't you just say that the money was already allocated for partisan expenses, and all official parties in the House get it?

Mighty Middle

SocialJustice101 wrote:

 

 

But didn't you just say that the money was already allocated for partisan expenses, and all official parties in the House get it?

Which is weird because Conservatives and NDP are saying this is not what the Research budget should be used for.

SocialJustice101

Where did this headline come from anyway?   Sounds like click-bait you'd find on an alt-right website.      That's why it's important to site your sources, and use the original headline.

Mighty Middle

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Where did this headline come from anyway?   Sounds like click-bait you'd find on an alt-right website.      That's why it's important to site your sources, and use the original headline.

Well he did give him taxpayers money, there is no dispute

SocialJustice101

Mighty Middle wrote:

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Where did this headline come from anyway?   Sounds like click-bait you'd find on an alt-right website.      That's why it's important to site your sources, and use the original headline.

Well he did give him taxpayers money, there is no dispute

Technically he did, but your headline implies it wasn't his money to spend, while the funds were already allocated for partisan research of the 3 major parties.

Mighty Middle

SocialJustice101 wrote:

Technically he did, but your headline implies it wasn't his money to spend, while the funds were already allocated for partisan research of the 3 major parties.

Then why is the NDP asking the privacy commisioner to open an investigation, if they were free to do what they wanted with the money for "partisan" purposes?

SocialJustice101

I assume because of privacy breach concerns.  An extremely long shot, to say the least.

SocialJustice101

The fact that we're dealing with the Privacy Commisioner, rather than with Ethics Commissioner suggests that use of money is NOT in question here.

Mighty Middle

SocialJustice101 wrote:

The fact that we're dealing with the Privacy Commisioner, rather than with Ethics Commissioner suggests that use of money is NOT in question here.

Well the NDP said today on CTV a investigation needs to be opened to get to the bottom of this 100K payment.

Meanwhile Chris Wylie just told CBC that he is whistle-blowing on an unrelated project, and to make this connection with the Liberal party is "cheap politics". Saying his work with the Liberals is "overblown" and this was a small consulting project, when the Liberal government was just setting itself up. Other than that, he has done no work in Canada for years.

But that DOES NOT satisfy Charlie Angus who anounced on twitter that Chris Wylie must appear before a commons committee and explain himself.

voice of the damned

SocialJustice101 wrote:

I didn't find any indication it was taxpayers' dollars.   I keep seeing Liberal Party, not Liberal government.  Also, you shouldn't be posting articles without citing the source. 

Yes, this is like saying that Mulroney used taxpayers' money to buy Gucci shoes. He used his salary, which, once deposited into his bank account, was his to spend as he wished. (Not that that stopped some people from trying to make an issue of it.)

NDPP

London taxi-driver on 'Who the hell is Cambridge-Analytica!'

https://youtu.be/Kv2JIF1-jZU

"They're British establishment. Rotten to the core."

Rev Pesky

Chris Wylie quit working for Cambridge Analytica in 2014.

NDPP

Mercer's Cambridge Analytica 'Utterly Sleazy'

https://youtu.be/nm0h8U9R-MI

"The company is not only sleazy but blatantly criminal."

So no surprise to find the Liberal Party of Canada dealing with them...

 

Revealed: The Ties That Bind Canadian Data Firm AIQ to Cambridge Analytica and Brexit

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/24/aggregateiq-data-firm-lin...

"We mostly do psychological work for NATO..."

SocialJustice101

The Govt of Canada is NOT dealing with them.

SocialJustice101

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Pondering

I really don't like the phrase "taxpayer money".  It's right-wing think tank speak. It's designed to make people who pay taxes feel like they are being pick-pocketed. It's "there" money being sqandered. What does it work out to? A penny or two per capita? 

The correct term is public funds. 

Meanwhile "taxpayers" are being cheated billions of dollars through tax havens. 

Where is proportionality in terms of the topics that preoccupy us?