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Brachina

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/mulcair-admits-hes-no-jack-but-t...

It cool to see how Layton's influence helped shape Mulcair's style in comparison to Charest more aggressive influence.

Charest (both as boss and then as foe) and Quebec City taught Mulcair how to be a street fighter and one step ahead I think, but Jack taught him how to pull people together and how to be diplomatic. This explains Mulcair's unique approach to politics that has so far been so successful.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadians-cherish-fond-memo...

91 percent of Canadians felt Jack had a positive influence, name a another political,figure that would get 91 percent. Maybe Lester B. Pearson, Sir John A. Donald, or Tommy Douglas can't think of another.

Brian Glennie

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Employers are employers. They all drag their feet to avoid wage increases.  I have worked for various unions and when it comes to dealing with their employees' unions they are ever bit the employer and sometimes expect far greater personal sacrifice and commitment than other employers just because the cause is worthy. I have been in negotiations as a management rep of a union and also as a union rep with other employers.  Wages are not necessarily retroactive and the practice over the last few years is roll over agreements that contain no increases. 

This union has no power in its relationship with the party. Striking would not be an option for the committed activists they have hired so what do they bring to the table besides a cap in hand.

What's frustrating in this case is the fact that the NDP, as Official Opposition, are actually really well funded.

Check out Stornoway, for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stornoway_(residence)

 

Caissa
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http://thewfds.blogspot.ca/2012/08/5072thoughts-on-st-jack-layton-and-di... Disgusting and hugely false blog post by Dan,Shields, like worse then Warren Kinsella even, just Loathsome and inacutate.

1) the combined seats of the NDP was not enough to beat the Tories/Bloc/Indepandants votes, so we couldn't have saved thier government.

2) They were in the middle of the sponsorship scandal and that's what lost the Liberal's that election, yet they still won't take personal responsiblity, its all the NDP's fault, that Liberal sense of entitlement is alive and well (about the only thing that is right now)

3) Jack in fact did have accomplishments, many of those things he lists were done because Jack pushed for them, the Liberals had over a decade of Majority rule and got NOTHING done, unless you count tax cuts for the 1% and BILLIONS CUT from Healthcare and Education.

THIS IS WHY I HATE LIBERALS!

Not refering to ordinary liberal voters, or victims as I like to call them, but party insiders like Dan Shields, the liers, the victimizers.

janfromthebruce

Brachina, I read that post tonight and almost, but than couldn't be bothered to challenge - again - the old tired lib lie about that election. It doesn't matter how many times that story is corected, it is the liberal zombie lie that lives forever. And yeah, they know it's bogus bull but they also count on the public to believe their lie if you tell it over and over again.

They lost the last election and the public actually laughted at libs when they trotted out that they would start a national childcare program, and oh, they would protect public healthcare. Public was on to their "con game".

Shields just forgets that the election is over and they are upset that on August 22nd everybody is talking about Jack - positively - and that the house that Jack built was made of brick and not straw. So libs look like like people when they post that crap on Jack's death day. The only one with class was Bob Rae. Good on him for being classy.

Brachina

Well said Jan.

What's worse is that he's not the only one bashing Layton other Liberals are too, some even attacking his last words. The Tories may not be confortable with things, they complain about things been over blown, but at least they're not attacking the man like certain Liberals are.

The cherry on top was Dan Shields claiming the NDP hates the poor. What ever weed Dan's smoking he needs to cut back, its too strong for him.

felixr

I found Brian Topp's article remarkably magnanimous. Notice the following:

Brian Topp wrote:
First, our opponents hoped that the NDP’s remarkable progress under Layton would instantly evaporate without him. But I am in an excellent position to testify that the New Democrats found a formidable replacement in Thomas Mulcair. Mr. Mulcair is a former Quebec cabinet minister who looks more comfortable at the Calgary Stampede than our Albertan prime minister does. Somebody who can do that has got the chops to provide Mr. Harper with a serious run for his money – and his office.

He will do good things with the BC NDP.

That being said, I don't share his optimism regarding the NDP's chances in Alberta. I think Mulcair really torched the party in the prairies by picking a fight with the premiers (i.e. calling them Harper's errand boys) and then backing away from it. On the otherhand, Brian Topp has had a much, much longer and more illustrious career in politics than I. As such, maybe what he is seeing is how a little pushback and groundwork by Mulcair could really warm attitudes towards him in Alberta. For one, Mulcair has totally got Albertan's attention- that is not easy to do in a province where people are near proud of their political apathy. For another, they like it when he goes into the lion's den and comes out unscathed. He's kind of like a loveable villain.

If the NDP does make a real play for Calgary Centre, which they almost have to as it is one of the few conceivably NDP Alberta seats in an NDP majority governing scenario, then I would love it if Mulcair did the opposite of most federal leaders plans to parachute in but actually kept a very tight-lipped tour to a variety of locations in Alberta. To me the message would be, I care about Alberta more than just this byelection and I'm not afraid to go anywhere. I would milk the loveable villain card for all it is worth. As it is, the only NDPer currently scoring points is Brian Mason, for the cautious distancing he has done from the Mulcair flame out.

felixr

Oh yeah, and while I am giving Topp credit. He wrote a decent article on resource revenues a while back. Resource rights in the West is an emotional issue like language rights in Quebec.

Ippurigakko

Denise Savoie just resigned her seat. her riding will be by-election maybe same time as two riding date?

David Young

I'm surprised that Harper hasn't called the Calgary Centre by-election (which wouild also include Durham) so he can avoid an Etobicoke Centre by-election for as long as possible.

Could he be that worried about a bad result in either riding?

 

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Here's the article on Savoie:   New Democrat MP Denise Savoie is resigning

The 69-year-old cited a "health warning" from her doctor for her decision.

"My doctor gave me a health warning this spring and recommended that I adopt a more balanced lifestyle, without the travel and physical demands of the job of an MP from Western Canada," she said in a written statement.

Ippurigakko

Denise email says she resigns on Aug 31.

weird same Bev and Lee's end of month, all of them resign on end of month =S

4 by-elections... Calgary-Centre, Durham, Victoria and Etobicoke

hope some cons or libs mps going to retire soon more by-elections beat harper govt!

 

Oh wait, one more in montreal on Nov? if denis coderre resign for mayor? hope so!

theleftyinvestor

Victoria should be pretty safe for the NDP to keep. They can't take it for granted though, of course.

I really liked Denise Savoie. Best wishes for her health. 

PoliSciStudent

theleftyinvestor wrote:

Victoria should be pretty safe for the NDP to keep. They can't take it for granted though, of course.

I really liked Denise Savoie. Best wishes for her health. 


I agree, people can't get over confident. People never thought the NDP could lose Winnipeg North once, and they lost it twice and the same goes for the Liberals in Outremont. The NDP need a good candidate and a good campaign, just like in every riding.

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My Fellow New Democrat,

I am announcing today that, effective August 31st, I will be resigning as the Member of Parliament for Victoria. I want to explain the reasons that led me to this announcement, and then reflect about my experience in federal politics since January 2006.

A year ago yesterday, my dear friend and leader Jack Layton passed away. As it did for Tom, for our caucus and for all Canadians, his loss affected me deeply. It made me reflect on the fragility of life and the need to make the most of each day we have left.

This spring, my doctor gave me a health warning. After I considered these facts over the summer, I realized that I cannot continue to represent my constituents to the standards that they have come to expect nor indeed to my own standards. Hence my announcement today.

I want to thank my leader, Tom Mulcair, who travelled to Victoria to join me when I made this announcement at a news conference just a few moments ago. I note in particular Tom’s principled stance on sustainability and polluter pay. Canadians from all regions are responding to Tom’s positive message and focus on substance, rather than scandal.

I’m disappointed that I cannot continue to work on the problems and the issues that my constituents want me to work on. I thank you for re-electing me three times. It has been a privilege representing you in Ottawa.

As I prepare to leave politics, I want to speak to you about an issue so many have raised with me in the last year: the changes that are occurring in Canada under Harper’s Conservatives. Many of you have told me you no longer recognize Canada as a voice for peace, justice and sustainability in the world. Many have wondered what can be done to stop a majority government.

Clearly change will occur - whether positive or negative. But the key is to work for the change we want. An informed and engaged electorate is unbeatable.

Look at the way the Enbridge Project is evolving. At the beginning, the Harper government called those who opposed it radicals and extremists. But when it became clear the majority of British Columbians would then be radicals and extremists, Harper had to back peddle and change his language. It is the power of the electorate that has forced this change. So I encourage you to use the muscle and the brain of democracy to work for the changes we want and to make sure that change comes from the electorate, not just from an ideology.

I have had the privilege of serving as Deputy Speaker over the last year, and in that capacity as well as my previous roles, I have always strived to set a civil and constructive tone in debate. My work to maintain mutual respect among MPs in a hyper-partisan environment has not always been successful; but for me, it was about protecting our democratic institutions from the erosion of overly divisive politics. I’ve heard from many of my constituents that they really value these efforts to bring civility to federal politics and I know others have it made it their goal.

I look forward to an exciting NDP nomination and by-election in Victoria in the coming months. While I will be neutral in the nomination process, I will campaign as my health allows for the NDP candidate in the coming by-election and I am confident we can keep this riding NDP if we all work as hard as we have in the last few campaigns.

I want to thank my family for their love and support as I experienced the highs and lows of elected politics over the last 13 years, the first half as a city councillor and the 2nd half as a Member of Parliament.

I got into politics to help make a better world for my children and grandchildren. Now it’s time for me to devote myself full-time to my family and to seeing my grandchildren grow up. Once again, I want to thank the people of Victoria for giving me the opportunity to serve as your Member of Parliament.

 

Denise Savoie

TheArchitect

I was sorry to see that Denise Savoie is resigning for health reasons.  She's been a very hard-working, dedicated, forward-thinking MP.

As to the by-election that will be held: I'm entirely optimistic.  I have no doubt that the NDP will nominate a strong candidate.  One person that comes to mind instantly as a potential candidate is Ben Isitt, who currently serves on the city council in Victoria.  I don't know if he's interested in making the jump to federal politics or not, but he's certainly been an active and vocal supporter of the federal NDP.  He also worked in support of Peggy Nash's leadership campaign in the recent federal leadership race.

Another interesting possibility is that Carole James could decide to move from provincial to federal politics.  I can also imagine Marianne Alto, who also serves as a Victoria councillor, or Victoria-Swan Lake MLA Rob Fleming running for the seat.

PoliSciStudent

I can't imagine Carole James giving up the chance to be a cabinet minister in the Dix government, but who knows. She would likely do very well if she ran.

theleftyinvestor

Yeah I can't imagine anyone prominent in the BCNDP jumping to federal this close to May 2013.

By the way, a somewhat eye-rolling editorial cartoon in the Star today:

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Brachina

I'm sorry to here about Denise. I love how supportive and understanding Mulcair was, coming all the way to Victoria to be at her side and support her in this difficult moment. Its shows class and compassion, the kind of class Harper doesn't have, and once again goes to show how ridiculous the angery meme is.

I'm excited to see what kind of talent we can come up with. As I understand it, were rich in talent and propects in this riding.

And I'd love it if Coderre resigned to run for Mayor. Still I'd rather it be Justin resigning, but I'll take what I can get.

Is Coderre's riding winnable for the NDP?

Brachina

I disagree on with people on the Praire's. According to Forum the NDP is consistantly leading on the Praire's outside Alberta and is high enough in Alberta that with redustrubution we could net us couple more seats in Edmonton.

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/doing%2Bfine%2Bwithout%2BLayton%2BM...

Almost forgot to add this.

PoliSciStudent

Brachina wrote:

Is Coderre's riding winnable for the NDP?


Definitely IMO, though I think it would require a strong candidate. The Liberals will likely try and get a big name and with their support supposedly up a bit in Quebec from last May I think they'd still be the frontrunners.

Ippurigakko

Coderre's riding in 2011

LIB 40% (-9 from 2008)
NDP 32% (+24 huge gain percent)

NDP likely going win in Bourassa

Brachina

The NDP would be likely to find a big name to,fight for the riding too. Only an 8 point spread,to beat, I think its doable.

In other news thanks to growing parania and an addiction to blaming the NDP we have this,conspiracy theory. Nevermind that its not Mulcair's style.

http://blunt-objects.blogspot.ca/2012/08/liberalwhoca-candidates-website...

TheArchitect

Brachina wrote:
In other news thanks to growing parania and an addiction to blaming the NDP we have this,conspiracy theory. Nevermind that its not Mulcair's style.
">http://blunt-objects.blogspot.ca/2012/08/liberalwhoca-candidates-website...

Paranoia is the right word for this.  It doesn't make any sense for anyone to be suggesting that LiberalWho is an NDP website.  The NDP would not launch this.

I've heard some people suggest that it's for an Andrew Coyne leadership bid, simply on the basis of the fact that the figure in the image supposedly looks a little bit like Andrew Coyne.  I've heard others suggest that it's for Justin Trudeau, on the basis of the fact that the website is registered to address in Trudeau's Papineau riding.

These are both possible explanations.  Reading through the quotes on the site, though, there was another potential Liberal leadership candidate that came to mind: Scott Brison.  The quotes just seem like his style.

Furthermore, I can definitely see the guy in the picture as Brison, too.  And listing the site in Papineau arguably is a much more sensible as a tactic for a non-Trudeau candidate than for Trudeau himself.  The media grabs onto anything Trudeau-related, which means that giving the media a reason to think it might be Trudeau is a surefire way to get more attention for the site.

To be clear, I don't know who LiberalWho is.  But if I had to guess, I'd guess Scott Brison.

Stockholm

Victoria is right next door to Elizabeth May's seat in Saanich-Gulf Islands - if ever there was a chance for the Green Party to show that it was anything more than just a vehicle for Elizabeth May to get personally elected to Parliament - its here. If the Green party cannot elect a companion to Elizabeth May in Victoria then where in all of Canada pray tell can they ever expect to elect anyone. Its DO or DIE for the Green party. Either win Victoria or admit that they are really just a one riding party that should not be taken seriously anywhere else!

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Unlike Stockholm, E. May expressed a measure of grace:

Elizabeth May Yesterday (on Facebook): NDP MP Denise Savoie is a wonderful person and dedicated public servant. I am so sad she is stepping down. Best wishes!

and,

Elizabeth May Wednesday (on Facebook):  Praise beyond party lines! Good for BC NDP Leader Adrian Dix for insisting on a BC environmental review of proposed the pipeline!

theleftyinvestor

Stockholm wrote:

Victoria is right next door to Elizabeth May's seat in Saanich-Gulf Islands - if ever there was a chance for the Green Party to show that it was anything more than just a vehicle for Elizabeth May to get personally elected to Parliament - its here. If the Green party cannot elect a companion to Elizabeth May in Victoria then where in all of Canada pray tell can they ever expect to elect anyone. Its DO or DIE for the Green party. Either win Victoria or admit that they are really just a one riding party that should not be taken seriously anywhere else!

Recall though that May won SGI from a Conservative, in a riding that has been ReformAllianceCon since 1993 when the NDP lost it. The NDP was weak in SGI leading into the 2011 election, the Liberals were tanking... it was a perfect storm for EMay to unite the anti-Conservative vote. 

In Victoria, we see a riding where the NDP won over 50% last election, and the second-place Conservatives got less than half that. Moreover the federal NDP is talking about the environment on a regular basis. So on one hand, I think that both the Liberal and Green can safely tell themselves, "We're not going to end up with a Conservative, so I'm free to vote honestly for the party that I really want." That's an excellent opportunity to bolster the Green vote, but they can't rely on the angle of trying to kick out a reviled incumbent like May did in SGI. Mathematically if any party but the NDP took it, they'd have to convince NDP voters (or suppress the NDP vote, or vigorously get out their own vote).

I'm sure there are a lot of Victoria voters who like the Green Party, but is there anything that would really motivate them to abandon the NDP if that's what they chose in 2011?

Sean in Ottawa

I think Stockholm is really setting a bar that is unreasonable for the Greens-- it would be more than difficult for the Greens to take the seat from the NDP and I'd be surprised if they wasted that many resources into trying. Calgary would be a better bet for them-- however that might increase the chance the seat stays Conservative.

Stockholm

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I think Stockholm is really setting a bar that is unreasonable for the Greens--

Darn, you figured out my ploy!

Brachina

http://thewfds.blogspot.com/2012/08/5097ndp-busted.html

Dan Shields doesn't tell people that parties can sell ad space during conventions for full market value and that is within the rules or that the Mulcair has a letter from EC that says it wasn't the NDP's fault.

Aristotleded24

Brachina wrote:
http://thewfds.blogspot.com/2012/08/5097ndp-busted.html Dan Shields doesn't tell people that parties can sell ad space during conventions for full market value and that is within the rules or that the Mulcair has a letter from EC that says it wasn't the NDP's fault.

It's one thing for the Conservatives to file a complaint, they are well within their rights to do that. But their press release is way over the top, going on about evil intentions and so forth.

Brachina

http://buckdogpolitics.blogspot.ca/2012/08/the-liberal-party-of-canada-p...

I and many others have been saying this for years. Sadly she fails to realize with the NDP as OO that there is no reason for the Liberals to exist.

In other news doesn't anyone else notice how shrill and insane the Liberal Bloggers and commenters are becoming in thier attacks. Even online you can almost see them foaming at the mouth.

http://warrenkinsella.com/2012/08/more-on
-layton-and-the-ndp/

Take a particular look at the comments. Foaming.At.The.Mouth.

I got to be honest thier hatred of Jack seems greater then that of Harper right now.

Its sad because Jack was a good man who deserved better then Liberal bile.

All who support merging parties take a good long look at who your dealing with here.

I for one don't want to share a party with Warren Kinsella, Dan Shields, and all the other smearers and liers in the Liberal Party.

Brachina

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/46391/political-ads-from-conservatives-a...

Angus Reid on the effectiveness on the NDP and Tory ads.

The NDP is the clear winner here, especially if one takes Alberta out of the Question. Alberta grossly surpresses things in favour of the Tories.

This tells me that a combo effort to boost confidence in NDP "theories" with attacking the Tory economic record could be devastating to the Tories, they dominance in the area of economic trust is not the unassaible fortress Harper thinks it is. It also hints that thier maybe serious opportunity to eat into the Liberal vote for the NDP.

addictedtomyipod

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I think Stockholm is really setting a bar that is unreasonable for the Greens-- it would be more than difficult for the Greens to take the seat from the NDP and I'd be surprised if they wasted that many resources into trying. Calgary would be a better bet for them-- however that might increase the chance the seat stays Conservative.

You don't know E. May.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/high-stakes-by-election-a-b...   She just wants to win, even if the effect is not good.  By running in a solidly NDP riding, who have a very green leader and respect the environment, she jeopardizes the seat to the Cons.  In fact this will happen in numerous ridings across Canada.  If you want Harper and  CON policy out, you need to vote NDP.  One day she talks about working together with the other parties to get rid of Harper, then the next it is all about her and the Greens again.  I see her as Harper's best friend, working to keep him in majority territory.  

 

Aristotleded24

addictedtomyipod wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I think Stockholm is really setting a bar that is unreasonable for the Greens-- it would be more than difficult for the Greens to take the seat from the NDP and I'd be surprised if they wasted that many resources into trying. Calgary would be a better bet for them-- however that might increase the chance the seat stays Conservative.

You don't know E. May.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/high-stakes-by-election-a-b...   She just wants to win, even if the effect is not good.  By running in a solidly NDP riding, who have a very green leader and respect the environment, she jeopardizes the seat to the Cons.  In fact this will happen in numerous ridings across Canada.  If you want Harper and  CON policy out, you need to vote NDP.  One day she talks about working together with the other parties to get rid of Harper, then the next it is all about her and the Greens again.  I see her as Harper's best friend, working to keep him in majority territory.  

Then the way to counter that is to not accuse May of trying to split the vote or win (gee, a poitician trying to get elected? Horror of horrors!) is to have clear evidence that the NDP is acting to address the concerns of Green-leaning voters.

janfromthebruce

May appears to talk in code, so when "she talks about working together with the other parties to get rid of Harper", she really means that she only is willing to work with Liberals and not the NDP. It appears that May hates the NDP as much as the liberals and is why she is the lib's "cat's paw". I thought it was Jack she hated but I was wrong. It's the NDP.

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That's a potentially self-destructive stand for her to take, given that she only won in her riding because the local NDP effectively stood aside for her in 2011.

Given that, why SHOULD she have it in for the Dippers?

Aristotleded24

Ken Burch wrote:
That's a potentially self-destructive stand for her to take, given that she only won in her riding because the local NDP effectively stood aside for her in 2011.

Given that, why SHOULD she have it in for the Dippers?

Especially since Jack Layton was the only other federal party leader to congratulate her on election night.

Brachina

May got stand on her on her while singing Canadian Anthem backwards in mix of Latin and Kligion and still won't be a threat to the NDP in Victoria right now with the NDP riding high and with so many possible star candiates including people with deep roots in the area.

Let her sabre rattle, that way she gets to pretend she leads a national party!

No worries.

Brachina

Compare how EC dealt with the multidude of Tory election scandals and the NDP convention and nailing the Liberals in Guleph.

Feet dragging, dropped charges, refusal to investiagate Tory crimes, coverups, ect... One one hand. And we can talking scandals in the hundreds.

On the other hand we have the NDP convention were EC itself, and this has been confirmed by the Star, tells the NDP that Unions and other groups buying ads does not count as donations as long as its does not exceed market value. The NDP gets a third party to confirm prices in order to conform to guidelines given by EC itself.

Then later after a Tory complaint EC reverses itself, orders the NDP to give the Money back to the Unions and Now, ect... creating the situtation where the Tories can paint the NDP,with the same scummy brush as themselves, despite that the NDP is guilty of no wrong,doing. Does anyone else smell setup?

While EC mishandles the Tories electoral frued case in Guleph, they nail the Liberals for not for being named in some of thier calls to voters, while the Tories lie to millions and steal an election.

How much most Canadians tolerate from EC? We need an investiagation into EC, democracy demands it.

addictedtomyipod

Aristotleded24 wrote:

addictedtomyipod wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

I think Stockholm is really setting a bar that is unreasonable for the Greens-- it would be more than difficult for the Greens to take the seat from the NDP and I'd be surprised if they wasted that many resources into trying. Calgary would be a better bet for them-- however that might increase the chance the seat stays Conservative.

You don't know E. May.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/high-stakes-by-election-a-b...   She just wants to win, even if the effect is not good.  By running in a solidly NDP riding, who have a very green leader and respect the environment, she jeopardizes the seat to the Cons.  In fact this will happen in numerous ridings across Canada.  If you want Harper and  CON policy out, you need to vote NDP.  One day she talks about working together with the other parties to get rid of Harper, then the next it is all about her and the Greens again.  I see her as Harper's best friend, working to keep him in majority territory.  

Then the way to counter that is to not accuse May of trying to split the vote or win (gee, a poitician trying to get elected? Horror of horrors!) is to have clear evidence that the NDP is acting to address the concerns of Green-leaning voters.

 

Tom Mulcair is doing a great job of defending the environment and I have no doubt that he will bring back the Green vote to the NDP.  Except for the Green free enterprisers, who will never vote NDP.  

Splitting the vote in the next election is a problem as we cannot afford another Con term.  They are ruining Canada.  So I think it is important to talk about it.

 

mark_alfred

Brachina wrote:
And I'd love it if Coderre resigned to run for Mayor. Still I'd rather it be Justin resigning, but I'll take what I can get. Is Coderre's riding winnable for the NDP?

 

I haven't seen anything on the internet or in the media that suggests Coderre is resigning.

felixr

mark_alfred wrote:

Brachina wrote:
And I'd love it if Coderre resigned to run for Mayor. Still I'd rather it be Justin resigning, but I'll take what I can get. Is Coderre's riding winnable for the NDP?

 

I haven't seen anything on the internet or in the media that suggests Coderre is resigning.

Straight from the horse's mouth. Not sure if it is the most reliable source though Wink

mark_alfred

Thanks for the link.  Seems unlikely, but it would be interesting, if he resigned, to see if Topp would run in the riding.

Brachina

Topp's going to be running the BC campaign, so he has no time. He can run in 2015. Don't worry, it won't be hard to find a grade A candiate to run.

Brachina

The below is something I posted to some ones blog to create some perpective because they were concerned about Justin Trudeau. I reposted my comment below, which is a comparison between Justin and Mulcair.

I understand what your concerns are, but the growing creepy messiah vibe amoung some Liberals should tell you all you need to know.

Heck even bigcityliberal calls him teenage Jesus mockingly.

Lets set aside the last names and look at hard facts about Justin vs. Mulcair.

Mulcair has years and,years of experience at the Quebec provincial level in what is possibly the roughest and street fighting enviroment in Canadian politics. He was a cabinate Minister for the enviroment, parks, and, sustainable,development. He is widely held to have been the best and most progressive enviroment minister in North America, with a rep for both results and effiency. He rewrite part of Quebecs constitution to include enviromental protection!

He been industry critic in Quebec amoung other critic roles so he has a wide breath of expertise in a multidude of files.

He got into a major a battle with Charest over ethics and resigned from that government earning major respect for ethics from Quebecers, while ensuring none of Charest crap sticks to him.

He then went on to win a Quebec Liberal stronghold for a party that basicly did not exist in Quebec at the time. He took it for the NDP.

He then spent several years helping Jack build the NDP in Quebec, more often then not he was the day to day face for the NDP when Layton was leading in Ottawa or in Toronto.

He was in the Quebec election ads before he was even leader with Jack.

First he was the NDP fincance critic and then later house leader during a minority.

Oh don't forget deputy leader and Quebec Lt.

Then 2011 came and he was in charge of turning a bunch green twenty somethings and a teenage into skilled and disciplined MPs (all though some MPs also had personal mentors), a mission he accomplismed.

He then fought a 6 month gruelling campaign against major talents like Brian Topp, MP Finance critic Peggy Nash, Charismatic MP Nathan Cullen, Surpremely Lingual Niki Ashton, MP Romeo Saganash and others.

He became leader and many said the party would die without Jack, others said he'd never unite the NDP behind him. The Party is doing,awesome under him, is focused and united, and leading in most polls.

He was key in changing the national dialog on the Oil Sands and dutch disease, as well as turning public option against the Northern Gateway pipeline to the point were Tory minsters are distancing themselves from,Enbridge.

His team is winning the battle to dump the F-junk fighter jets.

He's gone into the heart of Steven Harper territory, the Calagary Stempede and come off smelling like roses.

He's faced attacks, lies, and a butchering of his character in the media and come out on top.

And that's just within the first six months.

He's also a Lawyer experienced at making,arguements, anaylzoping evidence and poking,holes in the arguements of his oppentants.

Justin on the other hand won a changelling race against a Bloc MP. I give critic wear its do.

Oh he has the prestiagous critic role of sports critic!

His dad was Prime Minister

He appeared in a infomercial for the conservacy of Canada.

And best of all he voted for Harper on key regressive bills and motions well over a hundred times. Did he get anything in exchange for supporting Harper anything to help Canadians? Nope. Nothing. It was all free love for Harper.

Tom learned at the feet of Jack Layton

Trudeau learned at the feet of Iggy and Dion.

I do admit he has charisma. But Mulcair can be charming too, with a good sense of humour.

So going toe to toe who do you think will come out on top?

Lets be honest while Justin's last name will ptovide a temp bump in the polls, in the end Mulcair will eat Justin alive.

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