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Brachina

Looking at current issues, Mulcair wants a proper review of Nexen and clear rules on forgiegn take overs, he's not happy with how opaque they are. He also want to talk with the public about how to set up those rules.

As for Mining and Oil your not going to Simply Ban both industries, even May does advacate universal bans on Mining and Oil.

Brachina
Aristotleded24

Brachina wrote:
As for Mining and Oil your not going to Simply Ban both industries, even May does advacate universal bans on Mining and Oil.

On the issue of shipping Alberta oil to Eastern Canada, I've also pointed out that the oil that is currently imported into Eastern Canada has environmental impacts as well, and that the best way to deal with the tarsands is to eliminate demand for tarsands oil.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Was there any actual policy amongst all those platitudes except of course  a more targeted redistribution of Canadian wealth to a shorter list of companies.  I guess its a start that he wants to stop giving corporations subsidizes to close Canadian businesses.  No public investment just more reliance on the market by using targeted investments in private companies sounds like a great prescription if you believe that our economic system is fundamentally sound and only requires a few minor tweaks to usher in the New Jerusalem.  

Of course if you think our economy and culture needs a major shift then likely electoral politics is rather meaningless since this is the most progressive it can ever get.  No left wing government in Canada has ever become more left wing in power than the platform it ran on.  The Liberals run from the left and rule from the right. The NDP seems to run from the left and rule from the centre right instead of the right.  I agree however that centre right is better than either the right of the Liberals or the neo-fascism of the Conservatives. 

 

nicky
janfromthebruce

wow - Anders would know - maybe he dreamed that when he was napping Kiss

Brachina

The NDP on healthcare

http://www.ndp.ca/health

Brachina

http://www.ndp.ca/womens-forum

Niki Ashton is putting on a Women Forum on,October 18th.

socialdemocrati...

I'm a little unimpressed with the new site on health care. If the goal is to lay out some kind of major policy, it's cold. If the goal is to just galvanize us in opposition to Harper, it also fails.

That being said, I don't have any major complaints about the current health care system other than "stop people from undermining it" and "make a few incremental improvements". So I guess I'll have to wait for the jobs/economy plan to see anything interesting.

Brachina
addictedtomyipod

socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

I'm a little unimpressed with the new site on health care. If the goal is to lay out some kind of major policy, it's cold. If the goal is to just galvanize us in opposition to Harper, it also fails.

That being said, I don't have any major complaints about the current health care system other than "stop people from undermining it" and "make a few incremental improvements". So I guess I'll have to wait for the jobs/economy plan to see anything interesting.

Yes, it is so yesterday to care isn't it?

 

 

Doug

Except it's difficult to see how the federal government can get any of that done besides advocating and providing more money. Except possibly the prescription drugs because the cost of those depends on patent legislation. You'll notice that there isn't actually much new policy there.

socialdemocrati...

Exactly, Doug. It's not like I don't care. It's just that the proposals are so vague and incremental. "Well, ok, good, you're not Harper. What else?"

I mean, take a look at the preventative health policy. "... put forward policies that promote healthy eating and active living by making it easier to be and stay fit."

Amazing. How is the Federal Government going to make it easier for me to go to the gym?

Aristotleded24

I do have to give the federal NDP credit for recognizing the link between inequality and poor health, considering that poverty and the associated high health care costs remain problematic under Manitoba's (allegedly) NDP government.

mark_alfred

socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

I'm a little unimpressed with the new site on health care. If the goal is to lay out some kind of major policy, it's cold. If the goal is to just galvanize us in opposition to Harper, it also fails.

It wasn't as clear as I'd like, but the "establishing a common list of drugs to be covered;" (presumably pharmacare) was good to read.  Admittedly, I wish it had been a bit less vague (though from what I recall of the leadership race, Mulcair's style is to sound good without providing a huge amount of detail, perhaps in the thought of keeping the NDP less vulnerable to the criticism of "promising the moon".)

I personally would prefer the old boiler-plate language of "working class" and "pharmacare" rather than the more businessy phrases that they're now using like "power in purchases", "improving the analysis", "establishing a common list" --> dull dull dull, but maybe that is the winning formula.  We'll see.

mark_alfred

socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

Exactly, Doug. It's not like I don't care. It's just that the proposals are so vague and incremental. "Well, ok, good, you're not Harper. What else?"

I mean, take a look at the preventative health policy. "... put forward policies that promote healthy eating and active living by making it easier to be and stay fit."

Amazing. How is the Federal Government going to make it easier for me to go to the gym?

If they make it easier to find a decent job with good benefits, then many who previously needed to moonlight could stop that and now have time to go to the gym.

But yes, I do concur with your feeling that the policy was a bit too vague.

socialdemocrati...

I know. Don't let me be too hard on them. I know that all in all, the NDP would (at bare minimum) protect the health care we do have, and at least make some common sense improvements in senior care, prescription drugs, and logistics. But the logistics are dry, and the improvements vague.

I'm a policy wonk at heart. But in the end, I think there's something to the theory that "people vote their values". As a statement of values, there's something very admirable about proposing to expand health care in the "era of austerity".

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

This is what I get from your link.  Seems like everything in Ottawa is broken including the OO.

 

mark_alfred

Oops.  Try this link.

mark_alfred
mark_alfred

Broadbent Institute released a report entitled "Towards a more equal Canada".  Here's the site.  In an article on this report, he speaks highly of Mulcair.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

News flash, stop the presses. Broadbent supports NDP leader.

Cool

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

THANKS for the link that works.  Good to know that the problem with Harper is not that he supports NATO imperialism and corporate rights deals that masquerading as trade deals.  The real problem is he lies.

Nice to know the NDP is keeping it real and trying to engage voters on issues that matter.

felixr

Four NDPers vie to represent Victoria

The ones that interest me the most are Elizabeth Cull and Murray Rankin.

 

David Young

felixr wrote:

Four NDPers vie to represent Victoria

The ones that interest me the most are Elizabeth Cull and Murray Rankin.

 

This link goes to the story about the anti-bullying motion being put forward by New Democrat Danny Morin.

You'll need the proper link!

 

felixr

David Young wrote:

felixr wrote:

Four NDPers vie to represent Victoria

The ones that interest me the most are Elizabeth Cull and Murray Rankin.

 

This link goes to the story about the anti-bullying motion being put forward by New Democrat Danny Morin.

You'll need the proper link!

 

Correct you are. Here is the proper link. The Dany Morin article is worth reading too.

felixr

Here is an interview with the candidates. 

janfromthebruce

Murray Rankin won on first ballot.

felixr

janfromthebruce wrote:

Murray Rankin won on first ballot.

Well done!

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clambake

Anyone know where to find the video of this Mulcair speech? Sounds amazing: http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/10/25/it-is-a-question-of-credibility-for-t...

NorthReport

So what is the NDP doing to counter Harper's attack ads on Mulcair which I heard this morning on CKNW?

NorthReport

Did u know that Tagalog is the fastest growing language in Canada?

So what is the NDP doing for the Filipino community and their issues these days?

NorthReport

Disturbing Invisibility - or in plain English, perhaps blatant racism?

Harper pressed to address Canadian labour issues while in Manila

http://www.globaltoronto.com/filipino-canadians+watch+pms+trip+to+manila...

"What's missing from the narrative and what's missing from discussions taking place with respect to the relationship between the Philippines and Canada has are clear guidelines and clear parameters for how exactly the labour rights or the human rights of these migrant workers are being protected," said Ethel Tungohan, co-editor of the recent book "Filipinos in Canada: Disturbing Invisibility."

"That's something a lot of community members would like to hear."

Tungohan says workers sometimes have no clue about what their rights are, and even when they do, they remain at the mercy of their employers for their livelihoods.

"Their employers are aware that they really want to stay in Canada and stay working in Canada and they use that as their trump card to ensure that their employees are kept compliant," she said.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney has introduced changes to the live-in caregiver program, which allows Canadian families to bring in foreign workers to care for children or the elderly.

But advocates say the changes have not gone far enough or met their goals.

A federal online list of abusive employers established in April 2011 doesn't yet list a single person or company.

A new measure that required families to pay up front for health and transportation costs for incoming caregivers may have resulted in a decline in the number of applications for the program - only 8,553 last year compared with a high of 20,821 in 2008.

Manuela Gruber Hersh of the Association of Caregiver and Nanny Agencies Canada says that's because parents don't want to take on all the liability, when some caregivers don't have any incentive to stay with the family that paid their way.

"There's still issues on both sides," Gruber Hersh said. "There's still caregivers that are not protected and in bad situations. Then you have the families who complain because now they might be out all this money and have no nanny in place. It's a mess."

Tungohan notes there are also social costs to consider for a community that includes so many people separated from spouses and children for sometimes years at a time.

The First Ontario Alliance of Caregivers Canada wants the Harper government to reduce the processing time for permanent residency status to allow for quicker family reunification.

Read it on Global News: Global Toronto | Filipino-Canadians watch PM's trip to Manila

theleftyinvestor

NorthReport wrote:

So what is the NDP doing to counter Harper's attack ads on Mulcair which I heard this morning on CKNW?

I work in a lab where the radio counters the monotonous droning of vacuum pumps. I heard that ad five times in one day, on either Virgin Radio or JACK FM, I forget. Ugh.

NorthReport
NorthReport

If the NDP was supporting Obama, then let's get on with it and tax the rich in Canada too.

Tax the rich!

Bill Kristol gets it, but the rest of his party doesn't (yet): Obama has a mandate to tax the wealthy

Of course, whether the 2012 Tax Mandate and this new tax reality fulfills its potential and ultimately changes policy outcomes still remains to be seen.

Yes, Democrats are in the power position thanks to both the election and the simple fact that if they just do nothing, all the Bush tax cuts will automatically expire in 2013. And yes, the standard Republican argument that tax increases will harm the economy has been thoroughly debunked by the history of the Clinton era, by a recent Congressional Research Service report and by an even more recent Congressional Budget Office report. But as Obama’s first term (painfully) shows, when wealthy interests stand in opposition to a particular policy, we should never underestimate the willingness of Democrats to back off their popular promises nor the willingness of Washington to ignore indisputable data. In light of that, and in light of Republicans already closing ranks, making the 2012 Tax Mandate mandate a legislative reality in 2013 — and making the entire tax debate more rational over the long haul — requires an effort whose intensity rivals progressives’ just-concluded election campaign.

After all, when it comes to stopping a decades-long movement as powerful as the anti-tax crusade, there is never any rest for the weary.

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Brachina

Mulcair supports a corporate tax increase and a fincial transaction tax. He doesn't support a sale tax increase or carbon tax, as he believes these to be regressive taxes that punish the poor.

Income tax is a question mark.

Anyway here's a speech from Mulcair on the budget and economy, that I found exciting and shows the greater depth and ability to speak of Mulcair, compare to what Trudeau says in his speeches.

http://www.progressive-economics.ca/2012/11/12/mulcair-on-the-economy/

NorthReport

I'd like to see a 10% inheritance tax, sooner rather than later.

theleftyinvestor

NorthReport wrote:

If the NDP was supporting Obama, then let's get on with it and tax the rich in Canada too.

Yes, Democrats are in the power position thanks to both the election and the simple fact that if they just do nothing, all the Bush tax cuts will automatically expire in 2013.

Yabbut the 2013 expiration will also instigate an automatic round of massive spending cuts that the Democrats don't actually want. This is part of the debt ceiling deal they made last year. It'll also trigger middle-class tax increases that run against Obama's message. So no they are not in the power position.

Arthur Cramer Arthur Cramer's picture

By North Report from another thread:

 

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Now back to reality, and these are the latest polls.

Canadians will have a choice in the next election whether to vote to continue the policies of the right like Trudeau and Harper or to go with the NDP."

I see on Huff Post that now Trudeau is saying he's going to go around the LPC establishment (that is so laughable; talk about the pot calling the kettle black), and recruit youth directly to vote for him as leader.

NR has hit on a key point that I have beem making over and over. We need to start painting all these guys for what they are, Coporatists. We need to figure how to make this message relevant to everyone, and do an end around "Trudeau is young guy", movement. Canadians are already being set up for the next LPC snow job, helped by the MSM.

My question is where the hell is the NDP noise machine? Why aren't we hearing more about this? I get this feeling like the NDP and its leadership has somehow "gone underground". What the hell is going on?

jerrym

theleftyinvestor wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

If the NDP was supporting Obama, then let's get on with it and tax the rich in Canada too.

Yes, Democrats are in the power position thanks to both the election and the simple fact that if they just do nothing, all the Bush tax cuts will automatically expire in 2013.

Yabbut the 2013 expiration will also instigate an automatic round of massive spending cuts that the Democrats don't actually want. This is part of the debt ceiling deal they made last year. It'll also trigger middle-class tax increases that run against Obama's message. So no they are not in the power position.

Those who are truly not in the power position in the US because of the financial cliff are the poor because many of the payments that support them from month to month disappear on January 1st if the country goes over the cliff. Its one thing if your tax payments go up if you are rich or even middle class, quite another if the money you depend on to survive on disappears.

Ippurigakko
NorthReport

Let's move this over to the fiscal cliff nonsense thread where it belongs

jerrym wrote:

theleftyinvestor wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

If the NDP was supporting Obama, then let's get on with it and tax the rich in Canada too.

Yes, Democrats are in the power position thanks to both the election and the simple fact that if they just do nothing, all the Bush tax cuts will automatically expire in 2013.

Yabbut the 2013 expiration will also instigate an automatic round of massive spending cuts that the Democrats don't actually want. This is part of the debt ceiling deal they made last year. It'll also trigger middle-class tax increases that run against Obama's message. So no they are not in the power position.

Those who are truly not in the power position in the US because of the financial cliff are the poor because many of the payments that support them from month to month disappear on January 1st if the country goes over the cliff. Its one thing if your tax payments go up if you are rich or even middle class, quite another if the money you depend on to survive on disappears.

Brachina

Bingo, the concern isn't tax increases, its the spending cuts, the republicans would never have agreed to this gamble if they weren't sure the poor would suffer for it too.

People on the left only see the tax increases, not the spending cuts, but if the tax increase don't go to helping the poor and instead they,pay for it with reduced services then its a net loss for them and America.

Better for Obama to use the fiscal cliff as leverage for a better deal.

jerrym

NorthReport wrote:

Did u know that Tagalog is the fastest growing language in Canada?

So what is the NDP doing for the Filipino community and their issues these days?

This is true. In addition, "Since 2010, the Philippines has been the country sending the most immigrants to Canada. There are more than 436,000 people of Philippine origin in Canada. Tagalog, the Philippine dialect, has become Canada's fastest growing immigrant language." 

 (http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Harper+praise+anti+corruption+drive+Phi...)

This is especially relevant in Manitoba as many Filipinos have immigated there because of its immigration policies. Manitoba's Filipino population is growing rapidly (60,000 mostly in Winnipeg with 7,000 to 8,000 arriving each year -http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/special/ourcityourworld/philippines/fil...). 

 In fact, while Jack Layton did a good job of expanding the NDP's visible minority support and number of MPs, much remains to be done in this regard.   " 'Canada's ethnic makeup will greatly change in the next 20 years as the number of non-Europeans or 'visible minorities' rises to nearly one-third of the population, a government agency said Tuesday. Between now and 2031, the foreign-born population of Canada could increase approximately 4 times faster than the rest of the population,' reaching between 9.8 million and 12.5 million, said Statistics Canada. As well, the number of Canadian-born children and grandchildren of immigrants is expected to 'increase rapidly,' it said. ... Sustained immigration, combined with 'slightly higher fertility and a younger age structure' could nearly double the proportion of visible minorities reported by a 2006 census to up to 32 percent of the population.

Up to 28% of Canadians could be foreign-born -- the highest level ever, the government agency said. By 2031, nearly one-half (46%) of Canadians aged 15 and over would be foreign-born, or would have at least one foreign-born parent. The changing face of the nation would be most striking in its largest cities (Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver) where visible minorities would comprise up to 63% of the population.

Canada's South Asian population (from Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, the Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan and Sri Lanka) would remain the largest visible minority group in the country, with a population expected to more than double to as many as 4.1 million.

The number of Chinese Canadians is projected to grow also, to around 3.0 million. But as Chinese women have one of the lowest fertility rates in Canada, the Chinese share of the population is expected to decline.

Black and Filipino populations, which were the third and fourth largest visible minority groups in 2006, meanwhile, could also double in size.

And Arab and West Asian groups could more than triple." (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/pinoy-migration/03/10/10/filipinos-are-4th-la...)

Harper and his chief immigrant recruiter, Kenny, are no doubt not unaware of this and its part of Harper's reason for visiting the Philippines now and for the continual recruiting sale job they are doing with visible minorities in general. The NDP has to keep up and expand its efforts to address the issues that are relevant to these groups and to recruit members of these communities as candidates for nomination meetings.

Brachina

Mulcair did say that one of the keys to winning his riding was reaching out to the local phillipino community, amoung others.

NorthReport

 

Olivia Chow to Harper: rebuild Canada

Cites crisis of crumbling infrastructure and Tories' lack of action

http://www.thebulletin.ca/cbulletin/content.jsp?ctid=1000136&cnid=1003185

Canada’s mounting infrastructure crisis of crumbling bridges, potholes and traffic gridlock is costing more than $10 billion in lost productivity every year. NDP Transport and Infrastructure critic Olivia Chow calls on the Conservatives to take action and ensure accountable, transparent and non-partisan infrastructure funding.
 
“The current unpredictable, one-off funding system creates chaos and uncertainty for cities and communities and can lead to misuse of taxpayers' money,” said Chow. “Whether it’s sinkholes in Ottawa, falling concrete in Toronto and Montreal or record commute times in Vancouver, our infrastructure is in crisis.”

Aristotleded24

NorthReport wrote:
Stephen Harper's Conservatives may have to change the script for their smear campaign against Tom Mulcair, at least when it comes to the NDP leader's supposed anti-trade "extremism."

Under Mulcair, the New Democrats have adopted a more open approach to trade deals, one that could rob the Conservatives of one of their preferred lines of attack.

The NDP has already backed one free trade agreement, with Jordan, and is pushing for expedited negotiations on a deal with Japan.

And it's arguing that Canada should give priority to negotiating similar pacts with India, Brazil and South Africa.

Moreover, the party has dropped all talk of rescinding or reopening the North American Free Trade Agreement, a deal the NDP has stridently opposed in the past.

And it's urging the World Trade Organization to re-start global trade talks, which the NDP used to protest against.

"The NDP have always been and are very vigorously pro-trade," NDP trade critic Don Davies insisted in an interview.

So can you explain why we should bother voting for them now?

Brachina

Because the quality of new treaties will be better, they'll be fair trade. Also I think the whole point of the Japan treaty is to get fair access to the Japanese market for our manufacturers.

Still at least they're opposing the trade deal with China.

I know its not ideal, that many of us want NAFTA scrapped, but its not a deal breaker for me, as long as Mulcair can still get the things done that he needs to get done, like cap and trade, pharmacare, fincial transaction tax, and so on.

Truth be told if the left was really that opposed to NAFTA still, we'd be challenging it in the courts for being unconstitutional as it violates provincial juristicion.

janfromthebruce

The NDP, and also labour has always supported "fair trade" rather than "free trade" (or grab). So we support international labour, human rights & environmental laws, for example. We support trade unionism internationally.

When workers in under developed countries, for example, make a living wage, it helps us. We are all in this world together and interdependent.

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