Thomas Mulcair kicks right-wing reporter's ass at post-Question Period scrum

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Thomas Mulcair kicks right-wing reporter's ass at post-Question Period scrum

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NorthReport

Nobody's perfect but I like this guy more and more.

This is fantastic work and needs to be done much more often 

NorthReport

NDP deputy leader Mulcair scraps with QMI journalist

'Tom, are you trying to kneecap your leader while he's recovering from a bad hip' asks QMI's Brian Lilley

Mr. Mulcair wasn't having it.

Turning to face Mr. Lilley, who was parked behind the usual roped barrier put there so reporters don't get too close to MPs at the microphones, he responded: "Well Brian, since I have so much respect for you as a journalist, why don't you tell me what you heard me say that would make you say that, and not something that a Conservative spinmeister would say."

Then came this testy exchange, as Mr. Mulcair gestured toward Mr. Lilley with his hands pressed together and then pointed his index finger at Mr. Lilley.

Mulcair: "You tell me something that you've heard me say that would lead you to say that? You're the journalist who asked me the question. Tim Powers isn't a journalist, he's a Conservative spinner."

Lilley: "Fine. If you went to an election now, the polls say that you would lose seats. Would that be an opportunity for you? Are you angling for leadership? He raises an interesting question and that's what I'm putting to you. You would lose seats.

Mulcair: "You, you're a journalist, I'm a Member of Parliament. You have the obligation, if you're going to make a statement like that to point to something that I've said that you can ask your question based on. I'm not going to answer a pure hypothetical from you Brian. I have too much respect for you and you should have a little bit more respect for your own function and ours than to ask questions like that.

"So tell me something that I've said that allows you to ask that question, Brian Lilley.

Lilley: "Well I can ask whatever question I feel like Tom Mulcair."

Mulcair: "Tell me something that I've said that leads to that question. Something that I've done or said. You're a pure, you're asking a purely hypothetical question based on something that comes from a Conservative spinmeister."

Lilley: "We ask them all the time."

Mulcair: "Tell me something I've said."

Lilley: "You've said that an election is likely. You've called for an election."

Mulcair: "Show me where I've said that."

Lilley: "Well I don't have them in..."

Another reporter chimed in, "You can't decide which questions we ask."

To which Mr. Mulcair, still focused on Mr. Lilley said: "I've never said, I've never called for an election. You just made that up."

A few more words and Mr. Mulcair turned and headed back toward the lobby with his press aide, Chantale Turgeon, trailing, recorder in hand.

 

http://www.thehilltimes.ca/dailyupdate/view/91

ottawaobserver

Andrew Coyne thinks Mulcair was right:

Quote:

@acoyne When did you stop kneecapping your leader? I'm on Mulcair's side here. Absent some evidence, it's an unfair question http://tgam.ca/Bjrk

about 6 hours ago via TweetMag

NorthReport

What an absolute jerk that right-wing reporter is with his  "I donno what I did" bullshit. He knows exactly what he was doing - it wouldn't surprise me if the PMO put him up to it but just as likely the Liberals were behind it as often is the case.

NorthReport

Thanks OO.

Lens Solution

ottawaobserver wrote:

Andrew Coyne thinks Mulcair was right:

Quote:

@acoyne When did you stop kneecapping your leader? I'm on Mulcair's side here. Absent some evidence, it's an unfair question http://tgam.ca/Bjrk

about 6 hours ago via TweetMag

And Coyne is not Mulcair's biggest fan, so that pretty much says Mulcair is in the right here.

NorthReport

QMI's Brian Lilley is despicable! Let's remember that name.

NorthReport

By far the most effective guy with a hostile media is Ralph Nadar. He ate reporters for lunch regularly and very effectively using ridicule.

NorthReport

I'm so sick of some of these absolute jerks in the press - maybe they need to be kneecapped. See how they would like it.

Good on Mulcair - he should bring it up in Parliament as well.

 

Edit to tone it down a bit. 

NorthReport

Looks like QMI reporter Brian Lilley's outragious behaviour is gathering legs.

And unfortunately people will watch the shit that's coming on Sun TV

Organized labour needs to belly up to the bar and get a worker's TV network to counter the crap that is going to be spewed out  - eh Jim Sinclair. Nudge! Nudge!

 Reporter's 'kneecap' query raises Thomas Mulcair's hackles

 

The testy back-and-forth may also foreshadow the offerings of Quebecor's no-holds barred Sun TV News channel, which is now set to launch in April.

Aristotleded24

NorthReport wrote:
Organized labour needs to belly up to the bar and get a worker's TV network to counter the crap that is going to be spewed out  - eh Jim Sinclair. Nudge! Nudge!

The Canadian Labour Congress really should have put in a bid to buy up Canwest Global when it had the chance.

ottawaobserver

I think we just got a taste of what the Conservatives and their [deleted] lackeys at QMI/Sun Media are going to try, though, which is to goad the NDP into making a mistake. The Conservatives have been trying to plant stories for weeks now that the NDP caucus was divided ... utter bullshit, by the way ... but it's shown up in stories from the more mainstream media as well.

But Powers' column today was over the top. And Lilley's question was an exemplar of what we can expect when Sun TV goes to air on April 18.

Personally, I think that rather than get all lathered up, the smartest thing to do is to ignore Sun TV, as ultimately it's low ratings that will kill them.

But a question like that goes too far, and I'm sure the NDP media people will be taking it up with the Press Gallery and David Akin, the bureau chief.

Mulcair might have had a humourous line ready, on the other hand. Note to self for next time Pierre-Karl's brownshirts try and bully their way into the scrums.

ottawaobserver

ghoris wrote:

ottawaobserver wrote:

I think we just got a taste of what the Conservatives and their {not-very-nice-expression} at QMI/Sun Media are going to try

I'm not normally one to play language police around here, but I find this a tad offensive and would ask you to rephrase. Thanks.

Perfectly justified, ghoris. It's such an old expression from my past, that I hadn't stopped to think what it meant. I'll pick something else, and thank you for the intervention.

NorthReport

I agree A24, but things were made to be sold - there will always be more buying opportunities. Let's get ready for the next chance, eh big labour.

Aristotleded24 wrote:

NorthReport wrote:
Organized labour needs to belly up to the bar and get a worker's TV network to counter the crap that is going to be spewed out  - eh Jim Sinclair. Nudge! Nudge!

The Canadian Labour Congress really should have put in a bid to buy up Canwest Global when it had the chance.

NorthReport

You know OO there's an ole expression I enjoy when it comes to Kenney and the Oda scandal, as Kenney is Harper's right-hand man.

"The bigger they are, the harder they fall."

KenS

While Mulcair's response was understandable, its not a good idea. It could easily have gone badly.

Better to laugh it off with ridicule.

NorthReport

True KenS but Mulcair was on solid group it seems as there was no substance to what the Conservatice sleazeball reporter was saying. And Mulcair knew that. I think the NDP will get some brownie, well maybe not brownie, but points for this one.

KenS

Its not a question of who is right.

Communications 101: you do not want "Mulcair wants Layton's job" in the news And it doesnt matter how righteous the counter-attack is- it keeps the sculy story in the news.

KenS

Its not a question of who is right.

Communications 101: you do not want "Mulcair wants Layton's job" in the news And it doesnt matter how righteous the counter-attack is- it keeps the sculy story in the news.

Stockholm

Of course the reality is that down the road Mulcair wants Layton's job AND Layton wants Mulcair to have his job!!

KenS

Smile

[though my read is only that Jack only wants Mulcair to be seriously in the running. bottom line is ultimately the same: he's fine with any self-promotion]

George Victor

I would think that Mulcair's experience as a Quebec cabinet minister would put him "in the running" as to how best to deal with that sleazebag propagandist AND benefit the party. One can only imagine what he went through in the struggle to maintain integrity in an environmental portfolio. ANY evidence of integrity could draw support for a politician in this atmosphere of corruption.  As Lawrence Martin observes in his Globe column today: "The government's arc of duplicity is remarkable to behold. And there are more revelations to come..." 

NorthReport

Valid comment KenS.

The Left compared to the Right just doesn't win many battles these days, so it was kind of good to see, even if it isn't necessarily the wisest thing to do. The Left has been hurting bigtime so sometimes it's just nice to win one, win anything.  Laughing  

 

KenS wrote:

Its not a question of who is right.

Communications 101: you do not want "Mulcair wants Layton's job" in the news And it doesnt matter how righteous the counter-attack is- it keeps the sculy story in the news.

Sean in Ottawa

I totally disagree with you Ken on this one.

The issue that made the news and was recognized was not the non-news item that Mulcair may have ambitions since few would expect him not to and it is not a problem that the NDP is shown to have enough bench strength to have alternate leaders some scumbag journalist might try to find an angle with (might even make some Conservatives jealous).

The real issue that news story caught is that the Cons are infiltrating the media and news with propaganda artists such as Powers and the hack asking the question and we should not just trust the motives of journalists. That is the story that came out and if you read the comments below the article North Report linked to you will see that is exactly where people go with the story. The sooner people start questioning the propaganda fed to them through the news the better and Mulcair got that out there in a way that did not come out as whining.

Mulcair, made a perfectly valid point that there is nothing to the accusation against him and changing the channel to the issue of right wing journalists making stuff up.

Then there is the real bonus-- a journalist went after Mulcair's and Layton's and Layton's reputation and ended up being the subject of a news story that questioned his own. Apart from cosmic justice the value as a deterrent is hard to predict. You want to take an unfair shot at the NDP-- you have to consider they might shoot back and you might get hurt.

Just before what is certain to be a nasty campaign it is a good reminder that Journalists as well as politicians have reputations and once in a while they need them.

Well played Mulcair-- scored multiple times:

1) NDP is so strong it has alternate leadership contenders

2) NDP is united enough that there is no substance to a direct accusation someone is after Layton's job

3) Going after the NDP on BS might hurt your own reputation

4) The press is biased and full of propaganda artists with their own agendas

5) People actually want to be leader of the NDP

6) Right wing Cons are dirty

For the NDP what's not to like?

Even if one person in ten took the idea that Mulcair actually does want Layton's job as the main story, so long as he does nothing unfair to get it-- I can't see how that hurts the NDP at all. Low risk very, very high payoff.

The one down thing Mulcair said that was to say what allowed you to ask the question -- allow was a poor word choice (he was angry) -- if he had said motivated you to ask that question it would have been better-- but all and all very good.

nope

We would need a lot of electrons to discuss bad questions asked by journalists of any political leaning, I could for example point to journalists who repeated lie ater lie about the gun registry while in the same breath admitting that they didn't understand the issue..

Mountain meet mole hill

Sean in Ottawa

Don't get your point.

This is not about the individual question, reporter or issues but that as a result of the exchange a major newspaper treated the issue as a story-- and the issue was the right-wing biased press. How many articles like that have we seen this year?

Lens Solution

It shows how low Conservative strategists like Tim Powers have sunk, and it's about time the press called them out on it.

JKR

With the Conservatives and their acolytes hitting such low blows, it looks like this election will be the dirtiest most mean spirited election in memory. Harper's amorality is metastasizing throughout our political system and it's getting uglier by the day.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

I think the next round of poll numbers should be interesting. Maybe not.

NorthReport

It figures.
 
CBC Critic Gets Fox News North TV Gig
Ottawa scribe Brian Lilley to host primetime talker on Sun TV News.
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbc-critic-gets-fox-news-165358

Lens Solution

JKR wrote:

With the Conservatives and their acolytes hitting such low blows, it looks like this election will be the dirtiest most mean spirited election in memory. Harper's amorality is metastasizing throughout our political system and it's getting uglier by the day.

True.  And the question is, will Canadians stand up and put a stop to it in the next election?  It looks like Elizabeth May was right on this one - she said earlier this week that she thinks the next election will be the nastiest in Canadian history, and that could turn out to be true.

Stockholm

It seems like every single election is always billed as being "the nastiest in Canadian history" - just like ow every single election is always THE MOST IMPORTANT election in Canadian history. Paul Martin spent the whole 2004 election campaign solemnly intoning that THIS was THE MOST IMPORTANT election in Canadian history and then 18 months later he was telling us that no no no the 2006 election was the MOST IMPORTANT election of all times.

Enough with the pompous pronouncements.

NorthReport

You're correct Stock but could you say it a little nicer. Laughing

Lens Solution

The attacks and negative ads are already worse than before, Stockholm.  And look at how the Cons have been trying to accuse the NDP of being just as guilty as they are in the in-and-out scandal all week even though the Cons know they are the only ones who have been charged.

And I'm not Ignatieff's biggest fan, I think he should have stayed at Harvard, and it's obvious he's a poor leader, but I don't think I've ever seen so many personal attack ads aimed at a political leader in the 35 years I've lived in Canada.  The Cons engage in constant non-stop attacks against everyone all the time - even between elections.

ottawaobserver

Personally, I think the "kneecap" question of Mulcair was designed SPECIFICALLY to elicit some tape of Lilley mixing it up with him. I think it did backfire on Lilley, based on some feedback I heard tonight, but personally I view it as no surprise that Lilley's show was announced today.

NorthReport

Welcome to George Bush's North country.

Lens Solution

The underhanded attacks on the NDP this week are probably the reason Pat Martin was so angry yesterday.

NorthReport

A bit dated perhaps but worth rereading
Feeling the force of the Mulcair effect

 

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/feeling-the-force-o...

ghoris

ottawaobserver wrote:

I think we just got a taste of what the Conservatives and their [edited] at QMI/Sun Media are going to try

I'm not normally one to play language police around here, but I find this a tad offensive and would ask you to rephrase. Thanks.