Thoughts on Turmel?

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Thoughts on Turmel?

Friday marks the final day that interim NDP and Opposition leader Nycold Turmel will stand in question period as leader of the party. 

It was unquestionable a tough job for her and jumping from a brand new MP to leading the main opposition party must have been daunting, especially given that she had to face up to a majority Conservative government.

Turmel has said this about her leaderhip of the party:

 

We had to grieve Jack Layton [and] then I had to learn, pretty fast, the job. It was a big challenge. I had to learn everything at the same time...I won't say we under performed...I would say, yes, we had some challenges in the fall with all the new people to be known, to be recognized for their experience.

 

So what is your opinion of Turmel's term as leader of the NDP and of the Official Opposition? 

Also, what do you make of her decision to remove the critic positions of leadership candidates and her censuring of MP's Rafferty and Hyer for voting to abolish the long gun registry?

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Fidel

She's been the only real leader in Canada's Parliament since Jack. Harper is a blithering idiot, and I've never been impressed with the other guy.

TheArchitect

I don't agree with everything Nycole Turmel has done as leader.  But I'll repeat what I said in another thread: Nycole Turmel has shown incredible grace under pressure as interim leader.  Thrust suddenly into a job she had never expected to do and for which she never asked, and under attack by a hostile press, she rose to the challenge, and has provided stable, unifying leadership at the most difficult of moments, keeping the party afloat in these past months.

I think the tributes she's received from so many MPs speak to the respect the caucus has for her.

On the issue of critic positions, I thought it was right to have them step down.  I think it's right to have a shadow cabinet that can be focused on the work being done in parliament, rather than having to balance that work with a national leadership campaign.  On the issue of the long-gun registry, I would have preferred if Hyer and Rafferty hadn't had to be subjected to caucus discipline.  I can understand the reasoning behind what happened, though.

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TheArchitect wrote:

 On the issue of the long-gun registry, I would have preferred if Hyer and Rafferty hadn't had to be subjected to caucus discipline.  I can understand the reasoning behind what happened, though.

I want to persue this for a minute. A big reason why the NDP appeals to so many is the democratic element that makes up the backboen of the party. Given that, does it not seem somewhat hypocritical to censure MP's who are expressing the will of their constituents. Coupled with that, how should the NDP deal with this moving forward. The CPC is a rural party (for the most part) and the Liberals an an elite urban party. The NDP is the only party that makes up braod swaths of both. The best way to reconcile these interests is to allow free-votes on contentious bills and expect whipped votes on things like finanance and strong social issues (smoe could argue that the gun registry is a crime issue, others a freedom issue). I don't want this to turn into an discussion on the gun registry but rather on Ms. Turmel's decision to censure MP's that were expressing the will of their constituents.

Discuss.

Howard

TheArchitect wrote:
 I don't agree with everything Nycole Turmel has done as leader.

If Brian Topp wins, we can keep her as leader!

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Howard wrote:

TheArchitect wrote:
 I don't agree with everything Nycole Turmel has done as leader.

If Brian Topp wins, we can keep her as leader!

The party will have the same result either way so yeah, a Topp win would be steady as she goes = bye bye Quebec.

Rabble_Incognito

One door closes and another door opens. When we're in power she should pat herself on the back for a job well done. I think she would make a great cabinet person, I don't know is there a deputy PM someone who can do the job while the PM is incapacitated - she could do the same job, just step it up a notch for when we're in power. She's a good communicator, a fast learner, and I found her English to be competent and she didn't rattle easily. She will evolve.

Leadership candidates have to focus it's a good rule of engagement, also, her censuring of MP's Rafferty and Hyer for voting to abolish the long gun registry is an appropriate party expression, but if there is no punishment then a public finger wagging sends the message. They can vote with free conscience to represent their constitutuents, even when the decision is a poor one for Canada.