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Trudeau declares his strong support for the union movement

Trudeau Vows To Fight Bill C-377, Tories' 'Masterpiece Of Anti-Worker Sentiment'

OTTAWA — Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau waded into traditional NDP territory Monday, declaring his strong support for the union movement and the agenda it is trying to promote.

“Unions matter,” Trudeau declared at a meeting of the International Association of Fire Fighters in Ottawa. “They are one of the few remaining forces that fight effectively for the fair wages that Canada's middle class needs to make the economy grow.”

The Liberal leader said his party would continue to fight against the Conservative government’s Bill C-377, which places onerous financial reporting requirements on unions. The Tories say the bill promotes transparency, but the unions view it as a direct attack on them. On Monday, Trudeau called C-377 a “masterpiece of anti-worker sentiment” and said that it and Bill C-525 — the Employee’s Voting Rights Act, legislation already passed that makes it harder to form a union and easier to decertify one — were meant to weaken the labour movement in Canada.

“We are committed to repealing both should the Liberal Party of Canada form the next government this October,” Trudeau told the crowd to enthusiastic applause.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/04/27/justin-trudeau-union-ndp-left-fi...

Rokossovsky

Bullshit. Trudeau believes no such thing.

jjuares

Another Trudeau advertisement by Debater. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Coldwell Coldwell's picture

When the Liberals could have helped adopt an anti-scab provision for federal workers under the Canada Labour Code, they chose not to. 

http://rabble.ca/news/anti-scab-legislation-killed

Debater

Trudeau's speech was well-received by the Firefighters Union and got a standing ovation.

Jerry Dias of UNIFOR says in the article linked above that he's glad to see the Liberals reaching out to unions.

Rokossovsky

Of course Dias is saying that. He probably wrote the statement.

He desperately needs something from Trudeau in order justify selling out his members once again and supporting the bankers, as they lunch on Ontario Hydro. More importantly, since Paul Moist from CUPE national has denounced Leadnow's "vote together" campaign while calling the NDP the "only progressive party", Dias and his pal Sid Ryan, need something to justify CLC and OFL support for a "strategic voting" campaign. If they can create positional deadlock in the organization, then they think they can once again foist another bogus "stop Hudak" campaign, except against Harper, on the union movement by default.

But with the sale of Ontario Hydro, Trudeau's attack on labour rights contained in his support for C-51, and the NDPs support for a $15 minimum wage for federal workers, I think it will be an uphill battle to bring CUPE on side.

When is OFL going to dump Sid Ryan?

Geoff

In Ontario the governing Liberals are also reaching out to unions - with an anti-labour agenda and an iron fist.  Any union leader who buys into Trudeau's new-found love for workers is no "leader".

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

So few of us are in unions now it hardly matters what any politician says about unions. Perhaps there are some civil service power bases that Trudeau is calling in. Opportunistic union leaders will always jump on the Liberal bandwagon, as it screws the NDP, and helps the Liberal-Conservative Clownocracy and their friends like Don Drummond. These union leaders and politicians and business people make such fantastic sums of money it is hard for a low-income person to comprehend.

It is corporatism, the economic form of fascism. As far as they are concerned, we are merely voting fodder and economic slaves.

Unionist

Trudeau pretends to reach out to unions - and our brilliant babblers start attacking unions.

What's wrong with this picture?

 

indigo 007 indigo 007's picture

Trudeau as Liberal leader is fast becoming a national joke.   He appears to agree with Harper on most things, refuses to work with Mulcair, and then comes out in support of uinions.  This glad handing opportunist is out of control and obviously winging it.   He leads the party caught between the two parties that have real integrity, political identity, and offer genuine alternatives.   The LPC is a political redundancy and this is its last gasp.

I would love to hear what the eminent Liberal leader has to say about the looming war in the Ukraine, a potential major conflict between the US and Russia, and Harper's shamelsss efforts to lead us into this war.

NorthReport

No wonder Harper has been in power so long with some of the politically brain-dead union leaders we have. Whitby-Oshawa in case you haven't noticed is a Conservative seat.

josh

Unionist wrote:

Trudeau pretends to reach out to unions - and our brilliant babblers start attacking unions.

What's wrong with this picture?

 

 

Because a union's first obligation, check that, only obligation is to support the NDP.

Brachina

 Right now the NDP is doing for Union members then the useless asshole in charge. Look at what happening in Ontario, thanks Sid the back stabber and Diaz Hydro is being privatize, nurses are being cut back, ect... They promised the most progressive budget in a generation and instead we get the most regressive budget since Mike Harris.

Debater

Unionist wrote:

Trudeau pretends to reach out to unions - and our brilliant babblers start attacking unions.

What's wrong with this picture?

He's not pretending to reach out to unions, he actually is reaching out to unions.

The Liberals do not believe in trying to destroy unions like the Conservatives do.

But I agree with you that it's hypocritical for NDPers to want the Liberals to be more progressive and pro-union and then attack both the Liberals & the unions when the Liberal leader shows his support for workers.

Sean in Ottawa

Debater wrote:

Unionist wrote:

Trudeau pretends to reach out to unions - and our brilliant babblers start attacking unions.

What's wrong with this picture?

He's not pretending to reach out to unions, he actually is reaching out to unions.

The Liberals do not believe in trying to destroy unions like the Conservatives do.

But I agree with you that it's hypocritical for NDPers to want the Liberals to be more progressive and pro-union and then attack both the Liberals & the unions when the Liberal leader shows his support for workers.

Not at all -- it is a question of the Liberal track record being relevant to what the Liberals say on the topic.

Debater

indigo 007 wrote:

Trudeau as Liberal leader is fast becoming a national joke.   He appears to agree with Harper on most things, refuses to work with Mulcair, and then comes out in support of uinions.  This glad handing opportunist is out of control and obviously winging it.   He leads the party caught between the two parties that have real integrity, political identity, and offer genuine alternatives.   The LPC is a political redundancy and this is its last gasp.

I would love to hear what the eminent Liberal leader has to say about the looming war in the Ukraine, a potential major conflict between the US and Russia, and Harper's shamelsss efforts to lead us into this war.

Agrees with Harper on most things?  He's taken different positions on many topics and gets attacked by the Conservatives more than any other leader.  Do you know which leader is Harper's best friend?  Mulcair!  And the political commentators agree.  Harper knows his ticket to remaining in power is for Mulcair to go after Trudeau and prevent the Liberals from beating the Cons.  The Cons know the NDP has no shot in beating them.

And "refuses to work with Mulcair"?  Are you kidding?  Mulcair said he wanted nothing to do with the Liberals ever under any circumstances when he ran for NDP leader.  He's a flip-flopping opportunist who will say anything for a grasp of power.  Are you going to call Mulcair out on his hypocrisy?  I'll wait for you to call out Mulcair for his contradictory, opportunistic positioning.

It's also interesting that you refer to the Conservatives as a party with "real integrity"!

Rokossovsky

josh wrote:

Unionist wrote:

Trudeau pretends to reach out to unions - and our brilliant babblers start attacking unions.

What's wrong with this picture?

 

 

Because a union's first obligation, check that, only obligation is to support the NDP.

I am glad you agree that Jerry Dias's first priority is the Liberal Party.

Rokossovsky

Debater wrote:

Unionist wrote:

Trudeau pretends to reach out to unions - and our brilliant babblers start attacking unions.

What's wrong with this picture?

He's not pretending to reach out to unions, he actually is reaching out to unions.

The Liberals do not believe in trying to destroy unions like the Conservatives do.

Of course not if they don't say anything and spend their members money supporting Liberals, everything is just fine. Mind you, those that get out of line a subject to becoming "essential services" like ATU-113, or having pre-emptive "back to work" legislzation imposed on them like with Bill 115 in Ontario.

Speaking of which, when is Trudeau going to start distancing himself from the Wynne Liberals, in an effort to salvage votes in Ontario?

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

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He's not pretending to reach out to unions, he actually is reaching out to unions.

..i was a postal worker under 2 lib govs and 1 con. both tried to break the postal unions both failed. libs brought in wage controls in that time. they were always attacking unions and other workers

Rokossovsky

epaulo13 wrote:

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He's not pretending to reach out to unions, he actually is reaching out to unions.

Jerry needs ammo in the back rooms to justify supporting Liberal candidates in his already announced "ABC" "Stop Harper" campaing. After the great "success" of their "Stop Hudak" campaign, Sid Ryan all but announced that they were going to try to do the same federally. Since then the Liberal brand in Ontario has been severely damaged by non-stop agressive austerity by the government Jerry and Sid like to think they helped elect, and CUPE has basically declared for the NDP.

In the backrooms of the union offices, Jerry needs something to be able waylay the "prospect" of a straight up NDP endorsement from the OFL or the CLC, and in order to do this, Trudeau needed to say something "pro-union" to bring political gridlock to the labour movement, so they will end up endorsing ABC voting by default.

Jerry wrote the talking points, surely.

BRF

In the grand Liberal style J.T. pledges his undying love for the union and has even been taught by his handlers to hum a few bars, but we,this includes the Liberals, realize this is just the ol' tactic of "campaign on the left and rule on the right". The Libs have up until now always managed to hoodwink some of the voters with this meme. Unfortunately he's not alone in this regard as all three MSParties espouse their love of something even better, the resurrection of a Nazi regime right in the middle of Europe. Harper has even seen to aid these creeps with $530 million of yours and my tax dollars, or did he borrow the money in order to just give it to these murderous thugs, leaving us all in greater debt peonage to the transnational banker cabal. It would have been money better spent on the very needy Nepalese people right about now, so they chipped in $5 mil; whoa.  Anyway I didn't hear a peep from the others in Parliament over this or the sending of our boys to train them bastards to become more efficient killers of the more democratically disposed Novorussians. I would be ashamed to travel aboard and have to say I'm Canadian, much as Harper used to slag (and perhaps still does) Canada to his American hosts. Trudeau will get eaten for lunch in this coming election if he comes to the fight, but his name will help to some extent even though.

trotwood73
Rokossovsky

Let me guess, one of the three was not from Jerry Dias of Unifor, even though it was his union that originated the deal.

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

I support the right to collective bargaining. I do not support corporatism, which is when union leaders collude with the government and industry. Attacking corporatism is not attacking unions.

The problem is that many of us low-income people have been left behind in the advance of the labour movement. We are thrown under the bus. Unions have done nothing in the supply chain to help. Which they could have, a long time ago.

Perhaps there is no imaginative and progressive thinking in unions, which is why the dispossessed just see another group of greed.

Brachina

 I won't go as far as Montreal in saying Unions haven't done anything for the rest of us, they've pushed for.various policies, such as raising minium wage, but I do agree that the Unions have huge issues in long term thinking. They seem to react instead of act and the result shrinking Unions and jobs shipped overseas, too much collatoral damage, and promotions should not be based on Senority, they should be based on merit. There are other flaws such as a refusal to update tactics, strikes are short term thinking, the goal above most others, above wage increases, is control and influence in there place of employment, voting shares in company, seats on the board that decides the fate of workers, the right to veto the companies choice of CEO, ect...

 

 They also need to adapt better to a mobile work force and a labour market that is increasingly self employed. Some work on the latter, but not enough.

 Resources should also be spent on PR, salvaging the rep of Unions amoung the non unionized workers is key, especially amoung public sector Unions.

 

 And I will say this, Strikes are stupid, yes people have a right to strike, but today there are so many options and choices its a failure of leadership.

Rokossovsky

I hold more or less completely the opposite opinion.

While on the surface it may seem that unions don't do anything for "the rest of us", people are really misguided in believing such. Indeed, in there very essence many remain as independent democratic institutions that are foundational to participatory democracy, giving voice to persons who otherwise would have none, and opening up areas of discourse in society that is increasingly closed.

But, even if we assume for a minute that public sector unions do nothing but support the greed of their constituents and their leadership, the fact remains that even in the very act of "selfishly" defending only their own interests, they hold the line on defending public services, if only because they preserve the professionality of opertations, otherwise "the rest of us", would no doubt be served by student nurse of "volunteer" emergency room intake person, as opposed to a fully trained and qualified nurse.

Moreover, when a union like CUPE puts half a million dollars into a campaign to stop the privatization of Hydro One, they are most certainly serving a broaders public mandate, even if some might think that is simply for the sake of good public relations -- in fact, the motive is pretty much irrelevant, it is the fact that they do it that matters, whatever the reason.

Pondering

Rokossovsky wrote:

I hold more or less completely the opposite opinion.

While on the surface it may seem that unions don't do anything for "the rest of us", people are really misguided in believing such. Indeed, in there very essence many remain as independent democratic institutions that are foundational to participatory democracy, giving voice to persons who otherwise would have none, and opening up areas of discourse in society that is increasingly closed.

But, even if we assume for a minute that public sector unions do nothing but support the greed of their constituents and their leadership, the fact remains that even in the very act of "selfishly" defending only their own interests, they hold the line on defending public services, if only because they preserve the professionality of opertations, otherwise "the rest of us", would no doubt be served by student nurse of "volunteer" emergency room intake person, as opposed to a fully trained and qualified nurse.

Moreover, when a union like CUPE puts half a million dollars into a campaign to stop the privatization of Hydro One, they are most certainly serving a broaders public mandate, even if some might think that is simply for the sake of good public relations -- in fact, the motive is pretty much irrelevant, it is the fact that they do it that matters, whatever the reason.

It is not enough for them to be for the general good they have to be recognized as such. I think they are making more effort in that regard but not enough.

Rokossovsky

Actually, its you who isn't doing enough, but that is another story. You entirely support unions neutering their ability to act on the political stage by feebly tying themselves to the political fortunes of elected politicians for the sake of expediency, not principle, with so called "strategic voting", and other shams.

Rokossovsky

trotwood73 wrote:

Well... I guess the honeymoon is over.....

Trudeau courtship of labour at odds with Liberal criticism of NDP union office

As I suspected the Liberal Party's pet union, Unifor, is not saying anything, even though it originally inked the deal with the NDP. The updated version of the story has more details:

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In separate letters to Trudeau, the leaders of the UFCW, United Steelworkers and Canadian Union of Public Employees argue that it's routine for union locals to be provided office space in the workplaces of those they represent.

CUPE national president Paul Moist said the arrangement is aimed at fostering timely and productive labour relations and is a common feature of collective agreements in the public sector, as well as the private sector.

Time for Jerry Dias to stand up for labour rights in this country, and call out Trudeau on his obnoxious politicking... NOT!

Apologists time to sharpen your talking points. I am all ears....

Malcontent

ah The same Trudeau that said on last BC Election night  that Christy Clark winning was great for working people? lol lol

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

Yes, the barons got us the Magna Carta and other things we take for granted. The burgesses got us other things through Parliament. The unions got us more things in the post-WW2 era. Many of them are now law. The unions stopped going forward, and now they are colluding with the Liberal Party.

The unions have not done much for us recently. They need to regain their relevancy as the voice of the people. They are not sacred.

Rokossovsky

Being a voice of the people is one thing, but being a stalwart defender of the services that support the people in the public sector they function to defend the quality of life for all. Indeed, even if we accept the premise that the nursing unions were entirely selfish, and concerned only for the welfare of their constituents and union leaders, they are still doing the general public a great service by ensuring that a fully trained and experienced triage nurse will be the person who determines the priority of your case in the emergency ward of the hospital, and not a volunteer student trainee nurse, which is what would save management money.

Think about it.

The public sector unions are the first line of defense against the privatization of public service, for private profit, which is why the neo-liberals are so intent on getting rid of them.

swallow swallow's picture

[url=http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-canadienne/201505/... autres dirigeants syndicaux accusent le chef libéral Justin Trudeau de faire preuve d'hypocrisie concernant les droits du travail.[/url]

Trudeau's anti-labour pander has now been condemned by Jerry Dias (Unifor) and Hassan Yussuff (CLC). 

Unionist

Thanks, swallow - here's an English-language report:

[url=http://metronews.ca/news/canada/1357708/unions-step-up-criticism-of-trud... step up criticism of Justin Trudeau Liberals[/url]

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Two more union leaders are accusing Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau of hypocrisy on labour rights.

Unifor national president Jerry Dias and CLC president Hassan Yussuff have joined the chorus of union leaders who are furious that Liberals have criticized New Democrats for providing parliamentary office space to their staffers’ union local.

They’ve sent letters to Trudeau denouncing the Liberal move, following the lead of three other unions — the United Food and Commercial Workers, United Steelworkers and Canadian Union of Public Employees.

In his letter, Dias says Liberal House leader Dominic LeBlanc’s denunciation of the practice is “completely unacceptable” and leaves the impression that “workers’ rights can be disregarded in the cause of cheap political theatre.”

Yussuff says LeBlanc’s criticism “doesn’t square” with Trudeau’s recent efforts to court the labour movement.

Bravo, brothers Dias and Yussuff!

You see, real trade unionists are capable of judging politicians by what they say and do - rather than by what colours they wear.

Some of our babble cheerleaders should perhaps watch, learn, and emulate.

Rokossovsky

Good.

Now all he has to do is put out a statement condemning the OLP for proposing the sale of Hydro One.

Hunky_Monkey

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