Who should lead the federal NDP after Layton?

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madmax

Tell me how stupid this sounds.

The Next leader of the Federal New Democrats will come from a Provincial Leader of another political party, either Liberal, Conservative or Sask Party.  

Does this sound absurd?

Now switch the names New Democrats and Liberal in the sentence above with the opposite and read it again.

The Next Leader of the Federal Liberals will come from a Provincial Leader of another political party, either New Democrat, Conservative or Sask Party.

Doesn't sound so absurd in this context.

I just figure the Liberals are the ones currently in search of a leader and the NDP appears to be back on solid footing.

 

 

 

Lost in Bruce County

I think Jack is doing a fantastic job and continues to be an important and inspiring asset to our party. But when the time presents itself, I would like to see Chris Charlton as the next leader of the NDP! Her seat is safe. She's a fantastic speaker. She can fire up a crowd and bring in new supporters. I think she would be a wonderful leader! 

Stockholm

Chris Charlton also speaks fluent German!

Wilf Day

Polunatic2 wrote:
That line of reasoning has been used quite effectively to advantage others at the expense of Toronto - e.g. under-representation in provincial legislature . . .

Which is, literally, an urban myth. Unless you begrudge the North the bonus of three extra MPPs which all three parties promised them in the last two elections, in recognition of their geographic challenges. If those three MPPs were spread with mathematical fairness across Ontario, Toronto would get 0.6 of a seat more -- which would be excellent to get rid of the monstrosity called Pickering - Scarborough East, but hardly a major disadvantage.

Centrist

Stockholm wrote:

Chris Charlton also speaks fluent German!

So what are you really trying to say? That we will now be able  to win Kitchener and environs as well as even possibly Steinbach, Manitoba? Tongue out

 

ottawaobserver

What more can he say, but "Jawohl".

Wilf Day

Fidel wrote:
In 2006 [url=http://www.irpp.org]The Institute for Policy Research[/url] said:

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Our best estimate, from an examination of membership patterns over time, is that between 1 and 2 percent of Canadians belong to a political party on a year-to-year basis. This places Canada at the bottom of the list of Western democracies.

That's pathetic!

Indeed. But it's reversible. The CCF in Saskatchewan often had 10% of its voters signed up as party members. That same level has, on a few occasions, been reached by the NDP's strongest riding associations in Ontario -- Timmins comes to mind. Any decent riding association should start by signing up 3% of its voters, and then grow from there. That's the difference between a mass party and an elite party.

V. Jara

MPs I get the sense are interested: Cullen, Julian, Mulcair, Ashton (albeit not next time, but maybe down the road).

I also get the sense Nash is interested. I think she should set herself on the path to the leadership by re-offering in Parkdale-High Park. With the Liberals so low in the polls, the Conservatives picking up, and the Greens largely dead; some of the proper elements are in place for the necessary vote swings Nash would need to win. Biggest obstacles are obviously that this time Kennedy gets to play incumbent, and Kennedy is popular but perhaps played out and Nash has to win back High Park. One thing that Nash can probably count on though, is that the Liberal caucus won't lend much of a hand to defending Kennedy's seat. He's not well liked.

Wilf Day

Stockholm wrote:
I've actually never met anyone in my life who actually thinks Toronto and Torontonians are the "centre of the universe". I have met people who think Montreal is the centre of the universe and I've even met people who think Vancouver is the centre of the universe, but Toronto - never.

Not consciously. But everyday it's a problem.

Just today I was reading an excellent submission to the Attorney-General on revamping the family court system, with specific recommendations that could be carried out only if a local court served a number of people many times that served by a typical local court. It's tunnel vision. A related example is when organizations preparing such submissions appoint a committee consisting of six people from Toronto and a token "out of town" person, as I have seen many times. Finally, it's not just bigshots; at the working level this kind of mentality is also common among underpaid, overworked staff -- such as a bank clerk in Toronto asking that someone urgently pick up a document from the downtown head office, without thinking -- and then saying resentfully "oh, are you out-of-town?" That's what I call endemic.

Stockholm

Centrist wrote:

Stockholm wrote:

Chris Charlton also speaks fluent German!

So what are you really trying to say? That we will now be able  to win Kitchener and environs as well as even possibly Steinbach, Manitoba? Tongue out

 

Damn right! She could be the Angela Merkel of the NDP!

ottawaobserver

I don't know her personally, but she's been more than competent on the panels I've seen her on.  Apart from the right policy chops, I would look for a leader with a very strong strategic sense and a unique ability to connect with people.  Chris may have that, but I'm not close enough to know.  I do think Megan Leslie has the spark of something pretty remarkable, but it will need a much longer incubation ... although by giving her that co-chair with Tom Mulcair of the middle-class and the recessio task force, it seems they are trying to develop her potential.

Stockholm

What about Paul Dewar? Cuts a good figure, bilingual, good pedigree etc...

ottawaobserver

He's a strong possibility, too.  Growing into the job more and more, and really well-regarded here in Ottawa.

KenS

Something about Megan Leslie that may not be well known.

As an activist she was very tapped in- across a number of issues. And she was outside the NDP until she sought the nomination.

So she has a lot of different chops, and has equitted herself much better and more quickly within the NDP and electoral politics generally than I would have expected. Can't speak to her strategic sense- though that would seem to go along with what else she has shown she can do. Can say that knows organisational needs.

Left Foot

Megan was NOT an outsider to the NDP before winning the nomination.  While she was a law student at Dalhousie, she was a volunteer canvasser in Alexa's campaign.  She served on the riding executive in Halifax Chebucto, Howard Epstein's constituency, and was staff on Howard's 2006 campaign team.  Many New Democrats are more well known for their community work than their partisan work,

KenS

You're right, that would be more accurate.

I'd still say despite that participation, that she was not 'on the inside', and that she wasn't just better known for her community work, that her investment in the NDP was much smaller. The point being that shes clearly very fast and very good at finding her way.

Debater

Stockholm wrote:

What about Paul Dewar? Cuts a good figure, bilingual, good pedigree etc...

I don't think Paul Dewar is bilingual, but someone can correct me on that if I am wrong.

I do think he has gradually become a stronger MP over the past couple years though.  Originally I thought he was kind of a lightweight successor to be inheriting Ed Broadbent's riding, but he has some potential.  He was on Power Play today speaking out against the Conservatives' attempt to repress the torture controversy.

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