The federal election, started June 21st, 2015

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Brachina

alan smithee wrote:

I don't see why anyone here would oppose an end to a pointless perpetual war and improve relations with Iran..Seems to be a lot of Bibi fans here. I wonder how you'd react if Mulcair say that.

Oh wait,it was TRudeau,therefore very bad.Afterall , he's the Anti-Christ,right?

 Whose giving Trudeau shit for saying that other then Warren Kinsella? Nobody on rabble.

bekayne

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-invites-muslim-famil...

On Tuesday, the Prime Minister’s Office declined to release a full list of attendees, saying the guests had not been made aware their names could be made public.

“The prime minister was pleased to bring together community members to celebrate Ramadan and honour the contributions Muslim Canadians make to our country,” said spokesman Stephen Lecce.

Among the guests were three Conservative candidates for the upcoming election — Abdul Abdi, who is running in an Ottawa riding, Karim Jivraj, who is vying for a seat in Toronto, and Qais Hamidi, who is running in Quebec.

The fact that the gathering was held on the eve of the election wasn’t lost on some in attendance.

Samir Dossal, the president of the Canada Pakistan Business Council, said he knows some politics were at play but he was still honoured to attend and left with a positive feeling.

“This is the way our system works and you can’t help it,” Dossal said.

“But he took the opportunity. He could have not done it.”

The intent was an intimate, family-focused event, not a political one, said Jason Kenney, the minister for multiculturalism, who said he had been pushing for 24 Sussex Drive to host an iftar for a few years but the schedule never worked.

“It’s the first time it has ever happened under any prime minister and I think it’s a wonderful initiative.”

Among those at the dinner was Conservative Sen. Salma Ataullahjan, a Sunni Muslim who helped organize the event.

 

Pierre C yr

I wouldnt base restoring relations with Iran on the nuclear issue unless they built a bomb. If they did it would spur an arms race in the region and make the whole place more unstable. I would however base it on how the Iranian regime treats its citizens. Especially minorities. And we all know they dont treat them very well.

 

Trudeau doesnt seem to care as much about human rights by declaring he would do this unconditionaly.

bekayne

Pierre C yr wrote:

 I would however base it on how the Iranian regime treats its citizens. Especially minorities. And we all know they dont treat them very well.

 

Trudeau doesnt seem to care as much about human rights by declaring he would do this unconditionaly.

Canada has relations with many countries that would fail that test. Including Canada itself.

Sean in Ottawa

I don't agree with severing relations with any country. I think you may refuse trade or visas or many other things but you should leave diplomacy in place.

On this announcement by Trudeau I have to agree.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Brachina wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

I don't see why anyone here would oppose an end to a pointless perpetual war and improve relations with Iran..Seems to be a lot of Bibi fans here. I wonder how you'd react if Mulcair say that.

Oh wait,it was TRudeau,therefore very bad.Afterall , he's the Anti-Christ,right?

 Whose giving Trudeau shit for saying that other then Warren Kinsella? Nobody on rabble.

Really? Post #53

Trudeau doesnt seem to care as much about human rights by declaring he would do this unconditionaly.

socialdemocrati...

It's mighty presumptuous of Warren Kinsella to think that every Jewish voter thinks the same way. What's the word for someone who thinks that an entire race of people think the same way?

I'm for diplomacy with everyone. It can be harsh and tense diplomacy. But NOT talking to people has always escalated war, not prevented it.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

It's mighty presumptuous of Warren Kinsella to think that every Jewish voter thinks the same way. What's the word for someone who thinks that an entire race of people think the same way?

I'm for diplomacy with everyone. It can be harsh and tense diplomacy. But NOT talking to people has always escalated war, not prevented it.

BINGO!

josh

socialdemocraticmiddle wrote:

It's mighty presumptuous of Warren Kinsella to think that every Jewish voter thinks the same way. What's the word for someone who thinks that an entire race of people think the same way?

 

 

Asshole?

socialdemocrati...

Shitbrains?

NorthReport

HarperPAC inspired by American efforts: former electoral officer

A former chief electoral officer says Canada's newest third-party political organization was clearly inspired by the big-money political action committees south of the border.

Jean-Pierre Kingsley calls it insulting to Canadian intelligence to suggest the group, known as HarperPAC, was not U.S.-inspired.

HarperPAC spokesman Stephen Taylor says the group is trying to establish a Conservative counterpoint to similar organizations that have mobilized on the left at both the provincial and federal level.


http://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2015/06/24/harperpac-inspired-by-americ...

NorthReport

These Liberal and Conservatives are just digging themselves in deeper with this crap!  Frown

Senate committee examining audit leaks focusing on Ferguson, AG office

http://www.hilltimes.com/news/2015/06/24/senate-committee-examining-audi...

 

NorthReport

Marjory LeBreton heads for exit, says scandal has ended culture of secrecy in Senate

http://www.canada.com/news/Marjory+LeBreton+heads+exit+says+scandal+ende...

jerrym

The growing scandal in BC over the BC Liberals firing of eight employees, who the Liberals claimed had violated health information privacy guidelines, in the Health Ministry's Therapuetics Initiative could soil the federal Liberal brand and cost it votes and ridings in BC as well.

ETA: The demand for a public inquiry continues to grow. Yesterday, seven of the eight fired from Therapetics Initiative (TI) and the family of the eighth (who committed suicide over the firing and public shaming), demanded in a letter to the government a public inquiry into their treatment and into the damage that this did to research into drug effectiveness and safety that had given BC the lowest drug cost in North America. The TI research had saved $500 million in pharmaceutical drug costs for the government and thereby cost a BC Liberal party's major donor (of $600,000), the drug industry, an equivalent amount. The letter also confirms that some are restricted in what they can say by confidentiallity agreements associated with settlements made with the BC Liberal government. They point out the need to be released from these agreements in order for a full public inquiry to occur.

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In an open letter to Health Minister Terry Lake, the researchers called Wednesday for a "thorough and independent inquiry" of their firings, which would be wide-reaching, unhindered by financial constraints and reported publicly through the legislature. "In order to allow the inquiry to gather evidence, it must have subpoena powers for people and documents, the ability to retrieve deleted documents and the authority to take statements under oath," the letter says. ... 

The researchers also said an inquiry is needed to examine the damage caused to Pharma-Care drug research after the firings, as well as to independent drug research from the province's Therapeutics Initiative, which was temporarily defunded.

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Fired+health+workers+demand+public+in...

 

In the last ten days, there has been a growing drumbeat in BC for a full public inquiry into the scandal. Besides the fired individuals and the family of the PhD student who committed suicide, those demanding such an inquiry include: Vincent Gogolek, Executive Director of the  BC Freedom of Information and Privacy Association; the NDP; the senior politicial columnist at the Vancouver Sun, Vaughn Palmer, who commented "after all those evasions and non-answers, they put out a single email in a supposed gesture of openness and transparency. More BS is more like it."; the Province newspaper's Micheal Smyth, one of the most anti-NDP pundits in BC; the Tyee, an independent online news magazine; the Vancouver Observer, an online newspaper; and Graham Whitmarsh, the deputy minister of health at the time eight researchers were fired in 2012, (for more information on scandal see BC Liberals Forced to Reinstate Wrongly Fired Therapeutics Initiative Employees in Alberta and British Columbia section).

The BC Liberals in 2012 had placed themselves in a conflict of interest by accepting $600,000 in donations from the pharmaceutical industry (over the previous decade) and by firing these employees, as well as by eliminating funding to Therapeutics Initiative (TI) and later restoring it at much lower levels.

Later, the Liberalls set in motion an inquiry into the firings so narrow in scope that it answered virtually no questions about what happened. The Liberals, including Christy Clark, for the last three years repeatedly have said that they cannot answer any questions about the scandal, as they had asked the RCMP to investigate it. This month, a Freedom of Information request revealed that there was no RCMP investigation because, despite five requests by the RCMP for the information needed to start an investigation, the Liberals never provided any information, causing the RCMP to close the file. 

In the meantime, a PhD student who had been three days from finishing his co-op work assignment when fired, committed suicide because his chance of completing his PhD and a future successful career had been ruined, and his reputation destroyed. Facing lawsuits over the firings and, in one case, the claim that the researcher's study into a drug's side effects showed that it had or would shorten 60,000 people's lives, the government settled with all the fired employees. (for more information on scandal see BC Liberals Forced to Reinstate Wrongly Fired Therapeutics Initiative Employees in Alberta and British Columbia section).

On Saturday of last week, the Vancouver Sun, a staunch supporter of the BC Liberals and a major contributor to the ultra right-wing Fraser Institute, did what it almost never does - print its editorial on the center of the front page in large bold print. That editorial started with words as savage as any I have seen written in the paper. 

 

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Enough of the obfuscating, weaseling, dissimulation, doubletalk, verbal subterfuge, stonewalling and other distasteful conduct that hangs like a miasma over the shameful events surrounding the precipitous sacking of eight ministry of health employees in 2012.

The government, only after being driven to it by the tireless demands of the family of Roderick MacIsaac, a graduate student who took his life after being fired days before his co-op term concluded, ruining his career outlook, grudgingly issued an apology, which the family accepted with grace but which some regarded as expedient political damage control. ...

It’s time to sort this out. Careers were derailed, reputations left in tatters, a man may have died as a consequence, it’s an unnecessary burden on the public purse and someone made these decisions. There is simply no excuse for British Columbians not knowing how and why this happened, what it cost, who or what defective process should be held accountable and what can and should be done to ensure there is never a repeat performance. ...

The public deserves a public inquiry. It must be conducted by an independent third party with the power to compel testimony and subpoena evidence. Our government acts on our behalf. It isn’t free to do as it likes to citizens and then walk away with a shrug and an insincere “So sorry.”

 

http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/editorials/Editorial+Public+inquiry+...

 

 

NorthReport

Liberals strategy is to keep their name in the news everywhere all the time including here and it's working like a charm
They don't care what is said as long as Trudeau' or liberal is everywhere and as I said it is working like a charm

mark_alfred

NorthReport wrote:
Liberals strategy is to keep their name in the news everywhere all the time including here and it's working like a charm They don't care what is said as long as Trudeau' or liberal is everywhere and as I said it is working like a charm

Jus-who?  Tru-who?  Justin Trudeau?....is that the guy who sings songs and gets arrested sometimes....oh, bieber, right.  Wait, long ago, he's like a prime minister sort of, eh?  Brown belt in judo and punched out someone named Clark, right?  Oh, well, I was right that he boxes anyway.  Uh .... wait!!  Now that dude with the beard I know!!  I saw him talk right down to Harper, man.  It was cool.  He's the one.  Tom, yeah, awesome.

josh
socialdemocrati...

I wish trade agreements got more traction in the election. But I think it will be an electoral non-issue unless the parties can rally people. The NDP would have to spend a lot of political capital explaining the corporate privileges cemented in these deals, or the Cons would have to lie that the NDP "hates trade". 

Doug Woodard

Maybe this is why all those Conservative MPs have been bailing.

It's interesting that Harper hates the Charter and the Supreme Court, because they prevent a Conservative-controlled Parliament from doing what it wants, but he's happy to bind future parliaments for 31 years (alomost 8 Parliaments/elections) in the service of his ideology.

josh

Justin Trudeau and Tom Mulcair are engaging in “irresponsible electoral politics” with their positions on the Middle East and the fight against ISIS, Prime Minister Stephen Harper charged Thursday.

Speaking to reporters in Quebec City, Harper was asked about Liberal leader’s pledge earlier in the week to end Canada’s bombing mission in Iraq and Syria and to restore diplomatic relations with Iran.

“I think it is very strange… in fact he made the announcement on the national day of remembrance for the victims of terrorism to say that his priority is the restoration or to become best friends with one of the state sponsors of terrorism in the world – the government of Iran,” Harper responded.

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/25/harper-attacks-trudeau-mulcair-for-playing-politics-with-isis/

NorthReport

The latest Harper ad, just ran on Power Play, is an over the top attack about ISIS on Trudeau.

This is Harper's way, robocall jail terms, Senate corruption, now this ad, and hopefully all Canadians will be repulsed by it. Frown

Brachina

 Trudeau thinks he's more progressive then Mulcair LMFAO, was Trudeau being progressive when he supported Nexen deal, when he supports free trade treaties without reading them, when he voted for C-51, when he voted against PR, when he voted in favour of a higher punishment for pot growers, when time after time he voted with Harper under Iggy, when he voted for FIPPA, when he called the NDP too interventionalist, when he broke his promise on open nomination, I could continue.

felixr

Brachina wrote:

 Trudeau thinks he's more progressive then Mulcair LMFAO, was Trudeau being progressive when he supported Nexen deal, when he supports free trade treaties without reading them, when he voted for C-51, when he voted against PR, when he voted in favour of a higher punishment for pot growers, when time after time he voted with Harper under Iggy, when he voted for FIPPA, when he called the NDP too interventionalist, when he broke his promise on open nomination, I could continue.

More like Limousine Liberal

socialdemocrati...

Brachina wrote:

 Trudeau thinks he's more progressive then Mulcair LMFAO, was Trudeau being progressive when he supported Nexen deal, when he supports free trade treaties without reading them, when he voted for C-51, when he voted against PR, when he voted in favour of a higher punishment for pot growers, when time after time he voted with Harper under Iggy, when he voted for FIPPA, when he called the NDP too interventionalist, when he broke his promise on open nomination, I could continue.

Thanks Brachina. Trudeau's statement was so stupid I was speechless, but I'm glad someone else could find the words to respond.

NorthReport

Trudeau's statement wasn't stupid.

He thinks he is going to do an end run around Mulcair like Wynne did to Horwath.

It the same old campaign or left govern on right Liberal lies and deceit. Wynne's selling off Hydro anyone! 

Looking forward to the letter or whatever nonsense the federal Liberals come up with. 

 

NorthReport

Gilles Duceppe’s return changes election dynamic in Quebec and outside it: Hébert

The Liberals and Conservatives are watching the battle for Quebec from the sidelines.

Like most non-Conservative voters, those who switched from the Bloc to the NDP four years ago are more motivated than ever to seek regime change on Parliament Hill. With the NDP on the rise outside Quebec, the incentive to continue to support Thomas Mulcair’s party is strong.

  • The Conservatives are essentially in the same position in voting intentions in Quebec as on election night four years ago. CROP pegged their support at 14 per cent. They won 16 per cent of the vote in 2011. An early-year improvement in Conservative fortunes has turned out to be short-lived.
  • A more divided opposition vote could help Harper hold on to his handful of Quebec seats and — possibly — win back some of those that were swept up by the orange wave four years ago. But that presumes a second NDP wave is out of the question. Is it really?

  • The Liberals are key to the answer. Trudeau’s party has lost a lot of ground in his home province since it led the pack with 35 per cent or more of the vote at the end of last year. At this juncture, Liberal support — at about 24 per cent — hovers around Stéphane Dion’s 2008 score. That was the party’s best result of the past three elections.
  • Last year’s polls showed that the Liberals have room to go up; the results of the last campaign suggest they could just as easily slip further. Four years ago, Michael Ignatieff led the party to a 14 per cent finish in Quebec. Its losses ended up as gains in the NDP column.

    It is a well-established pattern of Quebec political life that in the face of a serious sovereigntist threat, the federalist vote tends to coalesce behind the strongest alternative on offer. The Liberals long benefited from that trend. But in 2011, the advantage shifted to the NDP where it remains now that Mulcair is back in the lead.

    To wit, more than half a dozen candidates are vying for the privilege of taking on Liberal MP Marc Garneau for the NDP in the federalist stronghold of Westmount-Ville-Marie.


    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/24/gilles-duceppes-return-cha...

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    NorthReport

    So Stephen Taylor and probably Ezra Levant are now batting zero for two after choking on their Tim's boycott.

    HarperPAC shutting down less than a week after launch

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harperpac-shutting-down-don...

    NorthReport

    Bingo!

    Doesn't Trudeau realize we have had enough of the gotcha politics?

     

    LYDIA MILJAN

    Want more female cabinet ministers? Elect more women

    bekayne

    NorthReport wrote:

    Bingo!

    Doesn't Trudeau realize we have had enough of the gotcha politics?

     

    LYDIA MILJAN

    Want more female cabinet ministers? Elect more women

    Would that be Lydia Miljan of the Fraser Institute?

    socialdemocrati...

    It's very hard to have gender parity in a cabinet if you're so far from gender parity in your elected MPs. The Liberal party's proportion of female candidates is less than 1/3 now. If you look at the current Liberal caucus, less than 20% of their MPs are women.

    It also sets up a contradictory message. The Liberals were boasting that they'd have this experienced cabinet, which would draw from their overwhelmingly male caucus. Now they're promising gender parity in their cabinet, which would mean appointing a bunch of people with no parliamentary experience.

    If the Liberal party was actually serious about this, they would have planned for it, instead of announcing it the moment their party dropped back into third place. It's more scrambling from the campaign to change the subject from their falling numbers, making a promise that they haven't set themselves up to possibly keep. (Some would say a promise they have no intention of keeping.)

    There's another party that I won't name that actually requires riding associations to actively seek out candidates from underrepresented groups, including women. In 2011, that party had an electoral breakthrough. The end result was the most number of female MPs in parliament ever.

    That's what happens when gender equity has been part of the party policy for years, as opposed to a sudden announcement just a few months from an election.

    NorthReport

    socialdemocrati... summed it up quite well above don't you think? 

    bekayne wrote:

    NorthReport wrote:

    Bingo!

    Doesn't Trudeau realize we have had enough of the gotcha politics?

     

    LYDIA MILJAN

    Want more female cabinet ministers? Elect more women

    Would that be Lydia Miljan of the Fraser Institute?

    NorthReport

    Have the Cons actually started running the ad? It's sick!  Frown 

    Latest Conservative ad could violate government's own anti-terror law

     

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/latest-conservative-ad-could-violate-gove...

    NorthReport

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    NorthReport

    I hope the Liberal and Conservative supporters who want to privatize healthcare are listening

    Engage Canada releases second anti-Harper ad, this time on health care cuts

    http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/26/engage-canada-releases-second-anti-harper...

    NorthReport

    Other third parties should follow HarperPAC’s lead and shut down, says Kingsley

    http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/26/other-third-parties-should-follow-harperp...

    NorthReport

    Forces et Démocratie — the Bloc Québécois spinoff — to run candidate in Peterborough

    http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/26/forces-et-democratie-the-bloc-quebecois-s...

    NorthReport

    Fixed-date election comes back to bite Stephen Harper: Hébert

    No prime minister in his right mind would opt to campaign for a fourth mandate in the circumstances currently faced by Stephen Harper.

    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/26/fixed-date-election-comes-...

    NorthReport

    Ontario election anyone!  Frown

    Asked how he would counter Conservative attack ads that present him as shallow and inexperienced, Trudeau said he has met a lot of Canadians and found that many like him.

    As usual, Trudeau seemed relaxed and confident Thursday. This should come as no surprise. The Star editorial board is rarely unfriendly to Liberal leaders.

    But there was also another feeling at play. Trudeau’s stardust is wearing off. And he knows it.

     

    Justin Trudeau faces his Mulcair problem: Walkom 

    Now that the NDP has moved to the centre, why should voters choose Justin Trudeau over Tom Mulcair? 

    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/25/justin-trudeau-faces-his-m...

    Brachina

    NorthReport wrote:

    Forces et Démocratie — the Bloc Québécois spinoff — to run candidate in Peterborough

    http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/26/forces-et-democratie-the-bloc-quebecois-s...

     NDP/Bloc spin off. They have MPs I wonder why they're left out of the debates.

    NorthReport

    May just cannot open her mouth without taking a shot at the NDP which says it all seeing that the NDP has by far the best environmental protection plan of any Canadian Political party

    The tyee today has an article by her and you can readily see her NDP attack in the first paragraph

    bekayne

    NorthReport wrote:
    May just cannot open her mouth without taking a shot at the NDP which says it all seeing that the NDP has by far the best environmental protection plan of any Canadian Political party The tyee today has an article by her and you can readily see her NDP attack in the first paragraph

    She's responding to the Tyee article by the NDP supporter which attacked the Green Party:

    http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/06/27/May-Green-Party-Does-Not-Split-Vote/

    NorthReport

    That's irrelvant. Right-wing May appears unable to communicate without attacking the NDP, the political party that has the best environmental protection platform, as opposed to the right-wing Liberals and right-wing Conservatives both of whom when in power have been a disaster for the environment.

    Understanding the connections explain why May is doing this:

    NDP - left wing

    As opposed to:

    Cons - right-wing

    Libs - right-wing

    Grns - right-wing

     

     

    NorthReport

    Harper will call the election when he feels it will be to his maximum advantage. 

    On fragile fixes

    http://accidentaldeliberations.blogspot.ca/2015/06/on-fragile-fixes.html

    NorthReport

    Just in case any of you had any doubts about how right-wing Liberals can be:

    http://www.thenownews.com/news/mla-doug-horne-to-run-for-moore-s-seat-1....

    NorthReport

    Gap between Canada's middle class, wealthy 'starting to run away': report

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/gap-between-canada-s-middle-class-wealthy...

    NorthReport

    Speaking of images we need ads showing how progressive Trudeau professes to be on one side of the screen and at the same time Trudeau voting against C51 on the other side of the screen. This talking out of both sides of his mouth is very represetative of the Liberals so it's important that this Liberal deceitfulness is brought to the attention of the voters. It should make people laugh though just like the "Trudeau's not ready to govern" but nice hairdo ads.

    Unpacking the Politics: the importance of imagery in politics

    http://globalnews.ca/news/2080288/full-interview-conservative-spokesman-...

    NorthReport

    Deputy Speaker admits using tax dollars to send voters "partisan" Conservative mail

    The Deputy Speaker of the House of Commons is defending spending thousands of tax dollars sending what he describes as "partisan" mail promoting the "Conservative plan" to 60,000 homes in his riding.

    Barry Devolin, Conservative MP for Haliburton-Kawartha Lakes-Brock, told the Minden Times his office spent approximately $15,000 in public funds mailing leaflets produced centrally by Conservative caucus staff for MPs to use.

    Devolin added that he doesn't usually use these centrally produced mailings, and his constituents told him seemed "more partisan than what they usually get from me."

    "As deputy-speaker I’m actually required to be less partisan," Devolin said. Still, he defended the mail-out, explaining that "most MPs send out stuff that is quite partisan all the time."

    That's ironic -- because the secretive Board of Internal Economy ruled large volume mailings "prepared by and for the benefit" of a "political party" were against the rules, as Speaker of the House and BOIE Chair Andrew Scheer put it last year.

    And Prime Minister Stephen Harper's parliamentary sidekick, Paul Calandra, has dodged questions about Mike Duffy's own partisan activities as a Conservative Senator with off-topic rants about how it's "inappropriate to use House of Commons or taxpayers' resources for partisan political purposes."


    http://www.pressprogress.ca/deputy_speaker_admits_using_tax_dollars_to_s...

    NorthReport

    Independent MP Andrews slams Trudeau for ‘unprofessional’ sexual harassment investigation

    http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2015/06/29/independent-mp-andrews-sla...

     

    Brachina

    NorthReport wrote:

    Independent MP Andrews slams Trudeau for ‘unprofessional’ sexual harassment investigation

    http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2015/06/29/independent-mp-andrews-sla...

     

     Interesting, the public was lead to believe by the Liberal Party that Andrews and Paccetti were found guilty in that report, but Andrews suggests it found him innocent. Did Trudeau lie about what was found or said in the report in order to get rid of 2 MPs, if so this could blow up in Trudeau's face, I suspect they're will be demands for the report to be released to the public.

     Trudeau it would appear has no respect for due process or people's rights civil or legal, he showed that by supporting Bill C-51, helping Harper to abuse the BOIE to violate the NDPs rights, lying about open nominations and violating the rights of some of those running for said nominations to the point where he's being taken to court over it, and now he can't even respect the results of his own process, which didn't really respect Andrews and Paccetti's rights to begin with, and still Trudeau may have lied about the results! 

     Its a pattern of behavior that should have all Canadians concerned about they're rights were Trudeau is concerned, Canadians should be very affraid of the possiblity of Trudeau being elected, even if it is currently looking remote.

    Pondering

    Brachina wrote:

    NorthReport wrote:

    Independent MP Andrews slams Trudeau for ‘unprofessional’ sexual harassment investigation

    http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2015/06/29/independent-mp-andrews-sla...

     

     Interesting, the public was lead to believe by the Liberal Party that Andrews and Paccetti were found guilty in that report, but Andrews suggests it found him innocent. Did Trudeau lie about what was found or said in the report in order to get rid of 2 MPs, if so this could blow up in Trudeau's face, I suspect they're will be demands for the report to be released to the public.

    If it cleared it why didn't he contest his explusion from the party? Andrews is free to release the information himself. Neither he nor Paccetti asked for the report to be released. It is their confidentiality that is being respected. I think Andrews is using the term "innocent" rather freely nor did anyone suggest they were found "guilty".  Those are terms normally reserved for a courtroom.

    If they were found "guilty" it was of personal misconduct or inappropriate behavior, not a criminal offence.

    The report didn't find them innocent or guilty. It simply confirmed the Liberals decision to expel the two men from the party.

    I bet MPs got more careful about about throwing their weight around in the hopes of getting lucky.

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