Updating the 14 Deadly Sins

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Updating the 14 Deadly Sins

 

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The Vatican has brought up to date the traditional seven deadly sins by adding seven modern mortal sins it claims are becoming prevalent in what it calls an era of "unstoppable globalisation".

Among the new sins are genetic manipulation and morally debatable experiments. Oh, and now you have to confess to being filthy rich before you can go to heaven...at least that will give the catholic church something new to confess to.

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martin dufresne

I like the association of "obscene wealth" with going directly to Hell upondeath - is the cheque in the mail, Bill Gates?
Benedict XVI seems to have not only jumped the shark but figured he can dispense with water skis and walk directly on water, inventing new sins as even Jesus didn't.
I also am astounded by the Vatican's attack on slackers ("sloth") and Beagle-yes Ben's explanation of the Vatican's fabled "rythm method":

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"If people do not confess regularly, they risk slowing their spiritual rhythm," he added.

Never a dull moment...

Michelle

This is particularly charming - paedophilia is a deadly sin, but if you're a priest, maybe not so much:

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In an interview with the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Archbishop Girotti said he thought the most dangerous areas for committing new types of sins lay in the fields of bio-ethics and ecology.

He also named abortion and paedophilia as two of the greatest sins of our times. The archbishop brushed off cases of sexual violence against minors committed by priests as "exaggerations by the mass media aimed at discrediting the Church".


kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

I looked into the process for getting the paedophile priest who molested me thrown out of the priesthood and discovered that it was almost an impossibility. It is hard to change a millenia old practice in one generation however there are no excuses for the wilful blindness that is so rampant in the church.

Don't worry though Michelle they have made it clear that abortion is a deadly sin.

Fleabitn

Polly said:"Oh, and now you have to confess to being filthy rich before you can go to heaven."

I think there is already something in the bible about rich men and the eye of a needle.

Besides, do you think these people whose god is money even remotely considers divine retribution? I think not.

Polly B Polly B's picture

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Originally posted by Fleabitn:
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Besides, do you think these people whose god is money even remotely considers divine retribution? I think not.[/b]

The catholic church is not poor by any stretch, and they are the ones inventing this new version of sinning.

martin dufresne

Please note that the focus seems less on being obscenely rich than on dying in this state, i.e. without a sizable eleventh-hour bequest to a Catholic organization:

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(...)The Catechism of the Catholic Church states that "immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into Hell".(...)

The population is getting older and there's trillions in them thar insurance policies... [img]tongue.gif" border="0[/img]

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

You just don't understand. All priests take a vow of poverty. Now the fancy cars and rich estates and all the other fine things that increase as you rise in the catholic church do not belong to their users they belong to the church Orders. So you see priests can never be rich no matter how fancy their lifestyles.

I'm not sure but I think that if the catholics are right and there is a heaven the gatekeeper might just be smarter than those kinds of cheap tricks.

martin dufresne

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He also named abortion and paedophilia as two of the greatest sins of our times. The archbishop brushed off cases of sexual violence against minors committed by priests as "exaggerations by the mass media aimed at discrediting the Church".

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M. Spector M. Spector's picture

Obligatory disclaimer:

I hasten to add that nobody here is singling out the Catholic Church for special criticism, and that other major religions are just as guilty of fraud, hypocrisy, and venality.

Now back to the thread topic...

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Reports that the Vatican has published a new list of the seven deadly sins of modern times that includes littering and economic inequality is simply not true, affirmed the episcopal conference of England and Wales.

The conference released a statement today clarifying that an interview published Sunday by L'Osservatore Romano with Bishop Gianfranco Girotti, regent of the tribunal of he Apostolic Penitentiary, was misinterpreted in the media as an official Vatican update to the seven deadly sins, laid out by Pope Gregory the Great in the sixth century.

"The Vatican has not published a new list of seven deadly sins; this is not a new Vatican edict," said the conference.


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jrose

[url=http://www.rabble.ca/columnists_full.shtml?x=69308]From Heather Mallick's Latest:[/url]

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There used to be seven deadly sins. Now there are 14. This is worrying because of the original seven, the only ones that I don't commit daily, nay hourly, are gluttony, greed and envy. Pride, lust and sloth are my bywords, and anger takes up half my waking hours.

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This was the sorry progress I was making on the deadly sins when the Vatican piled on seven new "social" sins. Yes, the Catholic Church is lecturing me —"Thou shalt not kid thyself," as the commentator Mark Morford put it — but as an enthusiastic ironist and atheist, I'll refrain from comment.

Sins nouveau, courtesy of Bishop Gianfranco Girotti of the Apostolic Penitentiary, here goes.

1. "Bioethical' violations such as birth control. Guilty.

2. "Morally dubious'' experiments such as stem cell research. I have no truck with embryos myself, but if this includes planning to kill my neighbour's small yappy-type dog with little balls of foie gras, guilty, very much so.

3. Drug abuse. Meursault hangovers, guilty and proud of it.

4. Polluting the environment. Haven't yet phased out the toxic household cleaners, still fertilize lawn, press Print button too often. Very, very guilty.

5. Contributing to widening divide between rich and poor. If that means studiedly earning money, feminist guilt in the first degree.

6. Excessive wealth. According to my last week's mail — from the World Wildlife Fund, Friends of the CBC, Daily Bread Food Bank, Mйdecins sans Frontiиres, the Martha Hall Findlay election campaign, the federal NDP, McSweeney's, NewsBiscuit, Adbusters, net-a-porter.com, The Leprosy Mission, Saxony Capital Management, brucespringsteen.net, Sephora.com and the terrifying Brookstone pointless housewares catalogue — I am guilty of money possession and should lighten my load by sending them lots immediately, and they take PayPal.

7. Creating poverty. According to offspring — jeans, I'm thinking EarnestSewn, of course they all look different, you sound like dad — guilty and it's your job to feel that way.

That's 11 sins and I didn't even leave the house. But Bear Stearns executives walked away rich after subprime gambling that would shame William Bennett, and Dick Cheney spent the Iraq War's fifth anniversary fishing off the Sultan of Oman's royal yacht. Why am I whipping myself with nails?


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Excellent article by Heather, and I loved the last line.

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Originally posted by jrose:
[b]That's 11 sins and I didn't even leave the house. But Bear Stearns executives walked away rich after subprime gambling that would shame William Bennett, and Dick Cheney spent the Iraq War's fifth anniversary fishing off the Sultan of Oman's royal yacht. Why am I whipping myself with nails? [/b]

But really does this act of imposing new sins still not come back to a psychological operant conditioning mechamism that was embodied by a document called "The Divine Right of Kings"?

Whereby those who are not of the elite rich, are the ones suffering under the burden of sin, because they do not have the "blessing" of God, as shown by possesion wealth. This encompoasses the enforced false notion, if they, the poor workers, become as sin free as possible, they too will have the "blessings" of God.

Michelle

I actually didn't like the last line. The rest I liked. But that last one was like, well gee, if Prince Charles has five mansions and George Bush is fighting oil wars, then why should I care about my own excessive consumerism?

remind remind's picture

Really?

I took the last line as her realizing that she should not be mentally trashing herself as hard as what she was, or had been over failing to meet her own standards of sin. Or rather those that she has internalized by being raised in a society that is structured in the Protestant work ethic operant conditioning, and by imposed guilt upon the masses by the Churches. Guilt that is not imposed upon the ruling elite, by the Churches screaming for additional sins upon the masses.

After all, she did use a strong analogy for a reason.