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NorthReport
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The Aussies being way ahead of us timewise have already started voting in their national elections on Saturday. About 25% of voters have already pre-voted

 

Climate and taxes dominate as Australia votes

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-australia-48304993

robbie_dee

Results look good for Coalition and bad for Labor.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/may/18/australian-f...

NorthReport
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Aristotleded24

That's not what the polls going into that campaign were suggesting.

Any follow up or analysis of what happened?

mmphosis

Preferential ballots.  The ranked voting system that Justin Trudeau wanted.

“the correct way to vote is to put a number 1 next to the Liberals and number every other box”, and appear to be written like an official AEC instruction to voters.  https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/election-2019/2019/05/18/chinese-liberal...

Australian Election Betting: Liberal Party Now $5.75

voice of the damned

mmphosis wrote:

Preferential ballots.  The ranked voting system that Justin Trudeau wanted.

Well, more accurately, false instructions about how to use a ranked ballot. Which isn't really the fault of the ranked-ballot system itself.

 

NorthReport

They should redo the election but of course the election thieves will have none of that and they are the ones with the power. So Australia will be ruled by a fraudulent government. Ugh!

swallow swallow's picture

Why would they re-do the election? The governing coalition won 41% of the vote, while the "Labor" party took 34%. Ranked ballots mean the Greens (10%) have little chance to win more than the one seat they hold. But though the result is horrifying, I've seen no accusations of fraud. 

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

The result is a comprehensive failure for the Australian Labor Party-a "social democratic" party which no longer has any social or democratic values to it and which drove many if not most activists away decades ago when a right-wing cabal took over the party after the "constitutional coup" of 1975, blaming the Left for the defeat of the Whitlam ALP government, even though that defeat was caused solely by the intervention of the CIA in Australian politics.

That same cabal has had an iron grip on the ALP ever since, even though the party has spent more of the post-1975 era in opposition than in government.

This defeat is solely on that cabal.  The Australian Labor Party now needs a total shakeup and a removal of that lot if it is ever to regain relevance in Australian politics again.

JKR

Currently with almost 77% of the votes counted, the two party preferred count is: Coalition 50.8%, Labor 49.2%. The first preference count is Coalition 41.4%, Labor 33.9%, Green 10.1%.

Aristotleded24

Ken Burch wrote:
The result is a comprehensive failure for the Australian Labor Party-a "social democratic" party which no longer has any social or democratic values to it and which drove many if not most activists away decades ago when a right-wing cabal took over the party after the "constitutional coup" of 1975, blaming the Left for the defeat of the Whitlam ALP government, even though that defeat was caused solely by the intervention of the CIA in Australian politics.

That same cabal has had an iron grip on the ALP ever since, even though the party has spent more of the post-1975 era in opposition than in government.

This defeat is solely on that cabal.  The Australian Labor Party now needs a total shakeup and a removal of that lot if it is ever to regain relevance in Australian politics again.

There seems to be some honest truth to that

WWWTT

Australia is a colonial country.  And I can’t see it breaking away from the vicious circle that Australians are caught in. 

Racism needs to be addressed for starters

https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/2017/08/09/australia-racist-not-way-you-think

NorthReport

Labor and the Greens have to join forces – for the climate's sake

For some it’s the option of last resort. But how much action on climate change has either party driven alone?​

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/jun/02/labor-and-the-greens-have-to-join-forces-for-the-climates-sake

JKR

Australia has instant runoff voting so I don’t see why Labor and the Greens should merge there.

NorthReport

The reason is simple It is not working for them

Aristotleded24

JKR wrote:
Australia has instant runoff voting so I don’t see why Labor and the Greens should merge there.

Because Labor is in the back pockets of the same corporations as the Coalition?

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Aristotleded24 wrote:

JKR wrote:
Australia has instant runoff voting so I don’t see why Labor and the Greens should merge there.

Because Labor is in the back pockets of the same corporations as the Coalition?

There is that.  In many respects, the ALP has never recovered from all the years it was run by Bob Hawke-one of Reagan's favorite "allied" government leaders, famous for echoing Reagan's arrogant demands that New Zealand drop its no port calls for ships with nuclear weapons policy.  Hawke was a nasty piece of work and cared more about making sure nothing remotely socialist happened under an ALP government than he ever did about fighting against the agenda of the corporate neoliberal right or presenting any real alternative to that agenda.  

Hawke combined the most thoroughly ugly aspects of the "anti-communist 'social democrat'" type.

JKR

Aristotleded24 wrote:

JKR wrote:
Australia has instant runoff voting so I don’t see why Labor and the Greens should merge there.

Because Labor is in the back pockets of the same corporations as the Coalition?

Becase vote-splitting is not a problem with instant runoff voting as it is with FPTP plurality voting.

NDPP

More Police Raids As War on Journalism Escalates Worldwide

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1136265980793856000

"The Assange effect is now taking hold throughout the US-centralised empire. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it with a pleasant story, or you can acknowledge that we appear to be in the midst of a rapidly escalating shutdown of the free press in the western world..."

NDPP

More Police Raids As War on Journalism Escalates Worldwide

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1136265980793856000

"The Assange effect is now taking hold throughout the US-centralised empire. You can choose to ignore it or dismiss it with a pleasant story, or you can acknowledge that we appear to be in the midst of a rapidly escalating shutdown of the free press in the western world..."

WWWTT

Not crazy about Australia. From my perspective, it appears to be too white conservative imperialist. 

NDPP

Backwards, badly informed and barbaric like Canada. And genocidal...