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ikosmos ikosmos's picture

alan smithee wrote:
go get blow banged by a cheeto and Duterte's micro penis. And BTW, FUCK YOU! Die in a fire.

It's a little early for Freddy Krueger, eh?

eta: I'm kinda old and had to look up your first insult. But I don't like Cheetos anyway.

Unionist

I disagree with everyone.

But I love everyone.

We are all we have.

Let's give peace a chance.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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A progressive? I seriously hope you're joking.

I am.

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Just because someone stands up and tells Amerikkka to fuck off doesn't make them defacto progressive.

I agree, but who are we, among so many?

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If Duterte is your idea of a progressive,I wouldn't want to meet what you would describe as regressive.

Sadly, someone somewhere has to try to trump Duterte's ace.  That's how races to the bottom work.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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A progressive? I seriously hope you're joking.

I am.

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Just because someone stands up and tells Amerikkka to fuck off doesn't make them defacto progressive.

I agree, but who are we, among so many?

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If Duterte is your idea of a progressive,I wouldn't want to meet what you would describe as regressive.

Sadly, someone somewhere has to try to trump Duterte's ace.  That's how races to the bottom work.

Thanks,Magoo. I have a hard time recognizing sarcasm in print.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Well, it wasn't sarcasm so much as facetiousness.  But here's a comparison of the two.

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Dutarte is so awesomely progressive!  He's the mostest progressive progoressive ever!

facetious wrote:
How many "druggies" have to be exterminated by the government before the Phillipines can be free of Imperialism?

SeekingAPolitic...

The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperative

by Zbigniew Brzezinski was carters national secuirty adviser

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

Regarding the landmass of Eurasia as the center of global power, Brzezinski sets out to formulate a Eurasian geostrategy for the United States. In particular, he writes, it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger should emerge capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America's global pre-eminence.

I remember reading this a decade and half ago.  Its gives an idea what us global strageties believe to how maintain domanance in the world.  As long the nations of eurasian  contientent are at war with each other the US retain its world global pre-eminance.  If they intergrate the power of us and influence will be greatly reduced.  The game is to pit the nations of eurasia agaisnt each other.

 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

This goes to Michael Moriarty.

Your comment and my feeling are unfolding now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKX165_euXg

It's predictable and inevitable.

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

alan smithee wrote:

This goes to Michael Moriarty.

Your comment and my feeling are unfolding now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKX165_euXg

It's predictable and inevitable.

An interesting clip. Thanks.

NorthReport

Thanks for this Unionist!  Smile

Unionist wrote:

I disagree with everyone.

But I love everyone.

We are all we have.

Let's give peace a chance.

NorthReport

So what set him off. 

PS Would the usual haters not bother replying as we know from whereis you come. 

NorthReport

Cool heads need to prevail here What in the world is going on? Maybe this is Duterte's style as I know almost nothing about him

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/21/asia/duterte-chin...

SeekingAPolitic...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-21/make-wish-list-russia-tells-dut...

"Formulate your wish list. What kind of assistance do you expect from Russia and we will be ready to sit down with you and discuss what can and should be done,” Russian Ambassador Igor Khovaev told GMA News on Friday. He then went on to state that Russia is open to working with the Philippines in “any area, any field of possible cooperation.”

 

Santa Putin is coming with his slay loaded with economic and military goodies.  Maybe it premature say a new axis but its challenge to the usa in asia.

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Traditioanlly the Philippine elite removes presidents who rock the boat too much in politer means, such as impeachment. (That's how they dumped Joseph Estrada in favour of his very establishment VP, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.) These sorts of power shift are politer and more subtle in Southeast Asia than is often the case in other parts of the world. 

Worth noting, then, that the current vice-president, Leni Robredo, is a member of the former ruling Liberal party and that current news stories have her scoring remarkably high popularity ratings across the country. I'd be surprised to see Duterte suffer an "accident" but not at all surprised if he faced protest and ultimately had to give way to Ms Robredo. 

KAIROS Canada is about to host a tour of Ontario and Quebec bya  delegation of progressive Filipinos, by the way - worth checking out for those interested in this fascinating country. 

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Thanks for the insight, swallow. I'm sure even the C.I.A. would much prefer to see Duterte removed by domestic political forces, so this may well be what happens. The lobbying for it is probably going on right now. Pallets of $100 bills may be arriving at the embassy in Manila as we speak. Laughing

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Thanks Michael. They may be. But I think the Filipino ruling groups are probably able to do these things on their own, not as mere paid puppets of America. 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Interesting article featuring a critic of Duterte over extrajudicial killings related to the drug trade - and some of the "collateral damage".
http://trib.al/x3y7Glu

NDPP

Philippines Senator Calls For Duterte To Face Crimes Against Humanity Inquiry

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/philippines-senator-calls-...

In The Guardian naturally. His real 'crime' is talking to China. 'To the Hague with him, regime change now!'

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

NDPP wrote:

Philippines Senator Calls For Duterte To Face Crimes Against Humanity Inquiry

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/24/philippines-senator-calls-...

In The Guardian naturally. His real 'crime' is talking to China. 'To the Hague with him, regime change now!'

I guess the mass murder of drug addicts and users doesn't count as a 'crime' smfh.

swallow swallow's picture

NDPP wrote:

In The Guardian naturally. His real 'crime' is talking to China. 'To the Hague with him, regime change now!'

You might want to read up on left-wing Filipino perspectives on all this. Walden Bello is one author who has spent his life fighting US military bases and imperialism in the Philippines, but does not endorse mass murders as a tactic of government. Or there's Jose Maria Sison, a main communist spokesperson and Duterte's former professor. There's a huge opportunity to for the Philippines here, but there's a danger of squandering it on a cult of personality and ignoring actual Filipino views by making this all about America and China - when t is about a whole lot more than that, and when Filipinos (not Americans or Chinese) are the authors of their own story. 

MegB

alan smithee wrote:

ikosmos wrote:

alan smithee wrote:
Go talk your shit on Rebel Media,mkay?

lol. Maybe when I start doing what you've already done, i.e., cheerleading the death of public figures.

Go play with your firearms.

go get blow banged by a cheeto and Duterte's micro penis. And BTW, FUCK YOU! Die in a fire.

Completely unacceptible on several levels. I'm sure I don't need to explain in detail why you are suspended for 24 hours.

Unionist

Is it too early for NATO to declare a "no-fly zone" to stop Duterte from killing his own people, and give the democratic opposition some space to effect regime change? I'm not close enough to the situation. If someone would kindly advise which Filipino opposition groups we should support, that would be much appreciated.

But will that be enough? Will we need to provide boots on the ground, or at least CF-18s, to help restore peace and human rights to the Philippines?

One thing is certain. Canada can't stand idly by while such events are unfolding. We need to re-establish our authority on the world stage.

 

 

Irony. Just in case anyone thinks my account was hijacked.

NorthReport

Merci beaucoup mon cher ami!  Laughing

Unionist wrote:

Is it too early for NATO to declare a "no-fly zone" to stop Duterte from killing his own people, and give the democratic opposition some space to effect regime change? I'm not close enough to the situation. If someone would kindly advise which Filipino opposition groups we should support, that would be much appreciated.

But will that be enough? Will we need to provide boots on the ground, or at least CF-18s, to help restore peace and human rights to the Philippines?

One thing is certain. Canada can't stand idly by while such events are unfolding. We need to re-establish our authority on the world stage.

 

 

Irony. Just in case anyone thinks my account was hijacked.

NorthReport

Merci beaucoup mon cher ami!  Laughing

Unionist wrote:

Is it too early for NATO to declare a "no-fly zone" to stop Duterte from killing his own people, and give the democratic opposition some space to effect regime change? I'm not close enough to the situation. If someone would kindly advise which Filipino opposition groups we should support, that would be much appreciated.

But will that be enough? Will we need to provide boots on the ground, or at least CF-18s, to help restore peace and human rights to the Philippines?

One thing is certain. Canada can't stand idly by while such events are unfolding. We need to re-establish our authority on the world stage.

 

 

Irony. Just in case anyone thinks my account was hijacked.

NDPP

Will 'They' Really Try to Kill President Duterte?

http://journal-neo.org/2016/10/17/will-they-really-try-to-kill-president...

"Rodrigo Duterte, the outspoken President of the Philippines has by now, most likely joined the concealed, prestigious and permanent hit list of the Empire.

But the majority of his nation is behind him. For the first time in modern history, Filipino people may have a chance to take control over their own destiny, in their own hands..."

'You tell me about human rights? What about those millions you are killing all over the world, including recently in Iraq, Libya and Syria?

You want to oust me? You want to use the CIA? Go ahead. Be my guest. I don't give a shit!"

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Sison also lauded Duterte’s vow to pursue an independent foreign policy.

“Maganda yun, that jives with the desire of the NDFP to have real and more of national independence because the Philippines is semi-colonial, sunud-sunuran sa Kano (That’s good, that jives with the desire of the NDFP to have real and more of national independence because the Philippines is semi-colonial, and is subservient to the Americans),” Sison said.

Asked if he will be giving the President a passing rate, Sison said yes but added that Duterte still faces criticisms over the alleged extrajudicial killings in relation to the anti-drug war.

He also said that the anti-drugs campaign of the government is publicly supported and agreed that the drug menace is widespread.

But Sison said they hope the government initiates “more crackdown on the top level drug lords”.

“Sabi ko nga eh, release all the political prisoners to make space for the drug lords (That’s why I said, release all the political prisoners to make space for the drug lords),” he said.

[url=http://davaotoday.com/main/politics/sison-is-satisfied-with-dutertes-fir... with Commuist Party of the Philippines founder Jose Maria Sison[/url]

NorthReport

Rodrigo Duterte, Pushing Split with U.S., Counters Philippines’ Deep Ties

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/27/world/asia/philippines-duterte-united-...

NDPP

"deep ties" indeed...

 

 

The First Vietnam: The US-Philippine War

http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/franciscofirstvietnam.html

"A million deaths?"

 

The US Aids And Abets War Crimes in the Philippines  -  by Marjorie Cohn

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/22/us-aids-and-abets-war-crime...

"The jury in the tribunal found defendant Aquino and Defendant Government of the USA, represented by Obama, guilty of war-crimes and crimes against humanity."

 

A First: Duterte Admin Gets Majority Approval Across All Issues

http://www.rappler.com/national/149426-duterte-majority-approval-nationa...

"It's the first time that an adminstration got majority approval across all issues,' said Pulse Asia..."

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Duterte said that while flying home from the state visit to Japan, he was looking at the sky while everyone was sound asleep and he heard a voice that said “‘if you don’t stop epithets, I will bring this plane down now.”

He said the voice he heard was that of God.

“And I said, ‘Who is this?’ So, of course, ‘it’s God.'” he explained. “Oh, OK. So, I promised God not to express slang, cuss words,” he was quoted as saying by ABS-CBN at a press conference.

[url=https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/10/philippines-god-told-cussing-dute...‘God told me to stop cussing’, says Duterte[/url]

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

Y'know, I understand that some people believe in a deity and will sometimes even talk to that deity. But when deities start talking back, it's a cause for concern.

NDPP

Timebandit wrote:
Y'know, I understand that some people believe in a deity and will sometimes even talk to that deity. But when deities start talking back, it's a cause for concern.

"The world's most powerful [mass murderer] man has spoken openly of 'my Christian faith and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ...and has 'an ongoing conversation with God."

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/the.faith.of.president.obama.in.si...

It seems this hallucination of 'talking with god' is a common one among leaders who kill.

 

 

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

The difference here is that your example is using metaphor and Duterte isn't.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

MegB wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

ikosmos wrote:

alan smithee wrote:
Go talk your shit on Rebel Media,mkay?

lol. Maybe when I start doing what you've already done, i.e., cheerleading the death of public figures.

Go play with your firearms.

go get blow banged by a cheeto and Duterte's micro penis. And BTW, FUCK YOU! Die in a fire.

Completely unacceptible on several levels. I'm sure I don't need to explain in detail why you are suspended for 24 hours.

Next time you ban me,take a good look at what I was responding to.

Thank you.

NDPP

Duterte Launches New Anti-Poverty Projects in Muslim South

http://v.aa.com.tr/674808

"Philippine president vows that Muslim Moro, other indigenous people in Mindanao will have equal share of national wealth..."

 

 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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He said the voice he heard was that of God.

“And I said, ‘Who is this?’ So, of course, ‘it’s God.'” he explained. “Oh, OK. So, I promised God not to express slang, cuss words,” he was quoted as saying by ABS-CBN at a press conference.

I guess the clear implication of this is that God is actually down with murdering druggies.  It's just "Goddammit" that He's willing to down a plane over.

Anyway, as completely k00Ky as this (and for that matter, Obama having a personal chitchat with God) is, can it even compare to the magical moment when the deceased Hugo Chavez appeared to Nicolas Maduro as a little bird?

Timebandit Timebandit's picture

I had not heard that, Smith. Oh, man...

NorthReport

Hey chicken little, the sky is falling, the sky is falling. NOT!!!

Philippines Posts Strongest Economic Growth in Asia at 7.1%  Smile

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-17/philippine-growth-quic...

swallow swallow's picture

The murderous former pro-US dictator Ferdinand Marcos has been re-interred and is ow buried in the Heroes cemetery despite the protests of left-wing, church, and human rights voices. 

[url=http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/11/18/1645054/timeline-marcos-her...’s burial for Marcos: How did we get here?[/url]

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In one of its strongest statements against the President’s actions, the Communist Party of the Philippines said on Saturday that Mr. Duterte “exhibited gross disrespect and insensitivity” to the sufferings of Filipinos under martial law and could face mounting protests.

“In ordering the AFP to give Marcos hero’s honors, Duterte is proving himself a rotten trapo (traditional politician) who has no qualms working with the worst of the bureaucrat capitalists and gives premium to paying political debt and political loyalties even to the detriment of the people’s aspirations for historical and social justice,” the statement said.

The burial has also completed “the political resurrection of the Marcoses,” the CPP said....

National Anti-Poverty Commission chief Liza Maza, a former Gabriela representative, said she was a “martial law baby.”

“I have lived the dark years of Martial Law and was politicized by the struggle against the Marcos dictatorship. I will never accept any revision of history. Marcos is no hero,” she told the Inquirer in a text message.

[url=http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/845934/leftists-rethink-alliance-with-duter... rethink alliance with Duterte over Marcos burial[/url]

The symbolic rehabilitation of the brutal kletpocratic Marcos dictatorship also drew criticism from the vice-president, Leni Robredo. 

Worth watching. 

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By seeming to endorse the vicious right-wing Marcos dictatorship, Duterte may have lost the support of popular movements, who are now rallying in the first of what is planned as a series of "Black Friday" protests. 

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FOR THE thousands of participants at the “Black Friday” protest at Rizal Park last November 25, Ferdinand Marcos’s heroes burial at the Libingan ng mga Bayani is part of a plan to fully reinstate his family as the country’s most powerful political clan....

“Duterte must choose between his declarations to work for genuine change for the Philippines or his alliance with the Marcoses,” Makabayan stalwart Satur Ocampo for his part said.

Thirty-three other cities and provinces throughout the country also held protest actions marking the Left’s first nationally-coordinated mass action against a Duterte government policy....

Reyes challenged the participants at yesterday’s protest action to take to the streets to fight against revision of history.

“The courts and politicians have failed us. We the people are the only thing standing in the way of their undeserved return to power. Our fight is no longer in the courts. The fight is in the streets, classrooms, communities, churches, social media and mainstream media,” Reyes said.

[url=https://kodao.org/2016/11/26/black-friday-protests-rage-throughout-the-p... Friday protests rage throughout the Philippines [/url]

 

 

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I get home, I turn on the TV set and I see the news about the rallies that took place nationwide, including the one on Katipunan. The nation is outraged by this burial. And I believe this is right. We have the right to be outraged because we know the truth. We young people know the truth. They can no longer hide or lie to us about what really happened during martial law. This is the reason we go out to the streets and protest, because we know better.

Thus, I am insulted by those who say the opinion of the youth is irrelevant. How they try to belittle and silence us because we are “too young.” They cannot dismiss the opinion of the youth because our relevance cannot be measured by our age alone. Just because they are older doesn’t mean that they know better. If they truly know better, they will be out there in the streets screaming injustice. But that is not the case. We may be young and we may be just students, but our knowledge can grow as much as in adults. Marcos was not a hero. He did not deserve to be buried in the Libingan. We know the truth.

[url=http://opinion.inquirer.net/99555/youth-and-hope]Youth and hope[/url]

 

swallow swallow's picture

[url=http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/12/04/1650228/leni-resign-hudcc-c... President Leni Robredo on Sunday announced that she will resign from President Rodrigo Duterte’s Cabinet[/url]

She remains vice-president, however. 

NDPP

President Duterte of the Philippines For Dummies

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/23/president-duterte-of-the-philippi...

"The louder was the hate speech from abroad and from local mass media outlets, the stronger Duterte's nation stood by its leader..."

NorthReport
jerrym

Duterte has announced that Marawi has been liberated, which isn't totally true as the following article indicates. Unfortunately, in echos of a past war, they had to destroy the city in order to save it.

 Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte declared the southern city of Marawi liberated from pro-Islamic State militants on Tuesday, although the military said 20-30 rebels were holding about 20 hostages and still fighting it out.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-militants/philippine-pres...

 

Islamic State galvanized in Asia by Philippine city siege, report says

Destroyed buildings are seen from a government sniper's position on the front-line of the battle against Islamic State-linked militants in the Philippine city of Marawi on Saturday. | AFP-JIJI

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/07/23/asia-pacific/galvanized-asi...

 

NorthReport
Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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"The louder was the hate speech from abroad and from local mass media outlets, the stronger Duterte's nation stood by its leader..."

Huh.  Here's who they're supporting.

Philippines’ Duterte says he stabbed someone to death as a teen

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“At the age of 16, I had already killed someone. A real person, a rumble, a stabbing,” Duterte said, adding that the stabbing was prompted by someone looking at him the wrong way. “That was when I was just 16… what more now that I’m a president?”

Indeed, sir.  Indeed!

Counterpunch, as always, thinks the pea is under the wrong shell.

 

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