So Bernie, how you doing?

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josh

Sanders is actually not as bad on the issue as he was prior to 2016.  Just shows you the power of the Lobby in Washington.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..he was best with the movements. they pushed him to better positions.

..moving past bernie

Revolutionary People's Candidate Lumumba Secures Crushing Win in Mississippi Capital

“Politics as usual” received a shocking blow to the face in the capital of conservative Mississipi on Tuesday after Chokwe Antar Lumumba took a vast stride toward becoming mayor of the City of Jackson in a landslide primary victory over eight other contenders.

Carried to victory on the back of a revolutionary, grassroots effort, the 34-year-old Black attorney's platform can be summed up with three simple slogans: "Free the land" and "serve the people," "by any means necessary."

Lumumba received an overwhelming 55 percent of the vote in the Democratic mayoral primaries, running on the historically anti-Dixiecrat ticket of the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party and soundly thrashing his opponents — the closest of whom received 21 percent.

The clean triumph flipped the expectations of local observers who predicted a low turnout and clears the path for Lumumba's transformative agenda to build a city based on a platform of human rights and political, economic and social empowerment. Lumumba believes people should be granted their right to jobs, education, decent infrastructure and a restorative justice agenda that provides holistic solutions to crime and violence in the community.

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“Cooperation Jackson believes that we can replace the current socio-economic system of exploitation, exclusion and the destruction of the environment with a proven democratic alternative,” the community initiative's website says. It also describes its movement as built on "equity, cooperation, worker democracy, and environmental sustainability to provide meaningful living wage jobs, reduce racial inequities and build community wealth.”

josh
Cody87

josh wrote:

Jimmy Carter reveals he voted for Sanders.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/08/carter-i-voted-for-bernie...

From the article: " After Sanders discussed the high voter-participation rates in this weekend’s French presidential election—"

Whaaat?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39833831

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/801656/French-election-turnout-2017-...

Some 34.8 million voters went to the polls, with turnout at 75.3 per cent according to the French Interior Ministry – the lowest percentage since the 1969 election....three million (8 per cent of voters) voted blanc – meaning that they handed in an empty ballot, while a further million (3 per cent) spoiled their ballot in protest – another record for France.

So the percentage that voted for one of the two candidates was in the mid 60's. Roughly 46.2 million electors and 20.7m voted Macron while 10.6m voted Le Pen. That would be 67.7% after spoiled and blanc ballots.

The vote participation might have been high for North American standards, but celebrating the high turnout when the turnout was the "lowest since 1969" for a particular population demonstrates a lack of knowlegde of the context or deliberate misinformation. I like Sanders so I'm not sure which is easier to believe.

NorthReport

How Hillary Clinton, Trapped in the Past and Privilege, Lost

Authors portray a candidate who had lost touch with the country she hoped to lead.

https://thetyee.ca/Culture/2017/05/09/How-Hillary-Lost/

josh

Cody87 wrote:

josh wrote:

Jimmy Carter reveals he voted for Sanders.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/05/08/carter-i-voted-for-bernie...

From the article: " After Sanders discussed the high voter-participation rates in this weekend’s French presidential election—"

Whaaat?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39833831

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/801656/French-election-turnout-2017-...

Some 34.8 million voters went to the polls, with turnout at 75.3 per cent according to the French Interior Ministry – the lowest percentage since the 1969 election....three million (8 per cent of voters) voted blanc – meaning that they handed in an empty ballot, while a further million (3 per cent) spoiled their ballot in protest – another record for France.

So the percentage that voted for one of the two candidates was in the mid 60's. Roughly 46.2 million electors and 20.7m voted Macron while 10.6m voted Le Pen. That would be 67.7% after spoiled and blanc ballots.

The vote participation might have been high for North American standards, but celebrating the high turnout when the turnout was the "lowest since 1969" for a particular population demonstrates a lack of knowlegde of the context or deliberate misinformation. I like Sanders so I'm not sure which is easier to believe.

Compared to the U.S. the turnout was enormous 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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The vote participation might have been high for North American standards

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Compared to the U.S. the turnout was enormous

A rare moment of babble agreement!

But it's still interesting to wonder why anyone would be impressed at the turnout if the only way it looks big is to compare it to a different country instead of the same one. 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..here's an update on what is going on within the dem party.

What's a Progressive and the Fight for Chair of the California Democratic Party

Norman Solomon of the Bernie Delegates Network says the California fight reflects a much larger struggle within the party between progressives and corporate Democrats

josh
lagatta4

Corbyn and Sanders holding very similar white and black cats: https://kmflett.wordpress.com/2016/01/18/jeremy-corbyn-politicians-cats/

Scroll down to see what Rosa Luxemburg's cat, Mimi, thought of Lenin... 

 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..good discussion

Is a National Progressive Broad Front Possible?

Charles Lenchner of People For Bernie and Paul Jay discuss the Peoples Summit and what comes next

NDPP

CBS: Bernie And Jane Sanders Under FBI Investigation For Bank Fraud, Hire Lawyers

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-and-jane-sanders-under-fbi-investigat...

josh

Report said that prosecutors "might" be looking into whether he pressured the bank.  Which in itself is not necessarily a violation of the law.  The only thing we know for sure is that his wife is being investigated.

NDPP

"Unlike the Dems, I didn't sabotage Bernie Sanders in the primaries, then try to cover my tracks with ludicrous Russian conspiracy theories."

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/888469907855290369

NorthReport

You are still peddling that shit after everything that has come out. Why am I not surprised!

NDPP

A Suggestion For Bernie: On Crimes Detectable and Not

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/25/a-suggestion-for-bernie-on-crime...

"Just what great American 'democracy' was it exactly that the Kremlin supposedly undermined last year? Folks are dying out here in 'the heartland'/'homeland' while the Democrats, CNN, MSDNC, Wapo and the NYT are frothing at the mouth with Mad [Mos]Cow disease ...So where is our great 'socialist' (please) hero Bernie Sanders on all this...?"

josh

He's out there speaking out on those issues almost everyday.  Maybe if the author wasn't more interested in shielding Russia, he would have found that out.

NorthReport

Just a broken record.....broken record......broken record.

 

NDPP wrote:

A Suggestion For Bernie: On Crimes Detectable and Not

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/25/a-suggestion-for-bernie-on-crime...

"Just what great American 'democracy' was it exactly that the Kremlin supposedly undermined last year? Folks are dying out here in 'the heartland'/'homeland' while the Democrats, CNN, MSDNC, Wapo and the NYT are frothing at the mouth with Mad [Mos]Cow disease ...So where is our great 'socialist' (please) hero Bernie Sanders on all this...?"

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

There is an interesting interview with Sanders about foreign policy on The Intercept. The conclusion:

Mehdi Hasan wrote:

Let’s be clear: On foreign policy, Sanders does not go as far in a left-wing direction as his old friend Noam Chomsky or even his U.K. counterpart Jeremy Corbyn. But his renewed interest in foreign policy and his willingness to break with the established consensus could be among his most radical acts yet.

“Where we’ve got to be radical,” Sanders tells me, “is to understand that we cannot continue with simply using military as a means of addressing foreign policy issues. Where we have got to be radical and forceful, in an unprecedented way, is to force debate and discussion on the causes of international conflict – and certainly, we have not been doing that, and we need more American leadership to do that.”

NorthReport

Bingo!

josh wrote:

He's out there speaking out on those issues almost everyday.  Maybe if the author wasn't more interested in shielding Russia, he would have found that out.

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