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Ukrainian Troops Dispatched in Crimea Switch To Region's Side (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-military-russia-resign-437/

"Ukrainian armed forces dispatched to Crimea have switched to the side of local authorities and are expected to take the military oath soon, Russian news agencies report..."

 

Ukraine: One 'Regime Change' Too Many?  by Ray McGovern

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/02-2

"Is 'regime change' in Ukraine the bridge too far for the neoconservative 'regime changers' of Official Washington and their sophomoric 'responsibility to protect' (R2P) allies in the Obama administration?

 

Carnival in Crimea -  by Pepe Escobar

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/CEN-05-280214.html

"NATO's ultimate wet-dream is to command a Western puppet Ukrainian government to kick the Russian navy out of its base in Sevastopol..."

 

Obama Warns Russia   -  by Stephen Lendman

http://sjlendman.blogspot.ca/?wref=bif

"Obama wants Russia eliminated as a major US rival. His grand scheme risks WWIII..."

josh

sherpa-finn wrote:

This is what will happen in Ukraine ... remember, you heard it from Mother Jones first. Now Babblers, everyone can go out and enjoy the Canadian winter.

If you do want to fret about Ukraine, I have just the thing for you. I'm going to tell you how this will all unfold...

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/03/wee-prediction-about-ukraine

Yeah, that's pretty much close. My hunch is it will end with Crimea declaring its autonomy, and affiliating itself with Russia. With tensions continuing regarding the rest of southeast Ukraine.

NorthReport

Ukraine does not seem to be well organized militarily. 

New head of Ukraine's navy defects in Crimea

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26410431

NorthReport

Ukraine crisis: What next for both sides?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26407604

6079_Smith_W

I'm not talking about dead Nazis, Unionist. I said quite clearly who I was talking about - people who were starved, deported and murdered - in some cases years before the Russians and the Nazis made their deal to divide Poland.

And yes, I am a bit familiar  with what happened in that part of the world from the 1920s (and long before) to 1945. I also know that you can't look into a crowd in Europe (or in many parts of the world, for that matter) without seeing someone who's political viewpoint doesn't include outrage for some atrocity or grievance. And I also know that your experience, valid as it is, is not the only case of people suffering from the horrible events there.There are plenty who feel the same about the Russians as you do about the Nazis and their collaborators.

And I'll ask again. If you're so insistent about people not taking sides here why jump on sherpa-finn for questioning the very same thing,  while remaining silent about all the rhetoric about western-backed Nazis running the show? It is one perspective, but it is not the only thing that is going on there.

I mean, I let the majority of that rhetoric pass myself; people are entitled to their opinion. I'm just asking for some room for others to express other ideas without being told they are dupes.

 

sherpa-finn

As family / ethnic histories go, this just about covers what the British side of my family ever knew about Crimea.... memorised at school for reinforcement. "Theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die."

ETA: Dated April 10, 1864.   

6079_Smith_W

Right or wrong, Ukraine probably has about as much a chance of retaining sovreignty over Crimea as the Tartars do of regaining it. I can't imagine anyone betting on anything other than the partition that seems to have happened, and I doubt that it is close enough to the brink that the west would be willing to start a war over it.

Eric Margolis's take on it:

http://ericmargolis.com/2014/02/the-road-to-war/

 

 

 

NorthReport
NorthReport

Just another coup.

Ukraine Is Not a Revolution.

http://rall.com/2014/02/26/syndicated-column-ukraine-is-not-a-revolution

NDPP

Problems in Ukraine? Blame Russia   -  by Peter Lee

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/28/problems-in-ukraine-blame-russia/

"Orwell would be pleased that the pro-European opposition in the Ukraine stuck it to Putin and the ex-Bolshies. Maybe he would have been less pleased with the linguistic legerdemain that is emerging as the mainstay of the new Ukrainian regime. The current situation in Urkaine is apparently very grim;

flatlining growth, imminent insolvency, consternation and anger among the sizable ethnic Russian community, a whiff of separatism in the Crimea, a bunch of outright Fascists who apparently see the coup as their Reichstag moment and a chance to bully their way into control of a decisive bloc of votes in the Parliament...

And it looks like the US-inspired coup that blew away an EU-sponsored transition pact has also stripped away Russian (as in Putin) and ethnic Russian (as in the eastern & southern poartions of the country) enthusiasm for helping the new government out in dealing with Ukraine's difficulties.

As a matter of human nature and political calculation, there is an obvious response to the new Ukrainian government's largely self-and-West-inflicted problem: Blame Russia!

With the fragrant smell of buyer's remorse filling the international space, obviously it was time to turn to themes more pleasant than 'Maybe America sh*t the bed in Ukraine.'

Unleash the pro-Western diplomats, pundits and correspondents..."

 

Tea With Neo-Nazis: The Violent Nationalism in Ukraine

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14553#.UxON8c4imV7

"To empower the openly neo-nazi-movements in Europe by ignoring the threat they pose is an utterly risky business. People should not have to pay a terrible price - again - for the weakness and indifference of their leaders.

As Ukraine today has become the tragic show-case for all Europe with regards to breeding and allowing race-hatred to become a violent and uncontrollable force, it is imperative to handle the situation there in accordance with existing international law and norms of civilization."

Unionist

NorthReport wrote:

Ukrainian smears and stereotypes

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/anne-applebaum-ukrainian-smears-a...

What a pathetic one-sided article.

Ukraine is crying out for freedom, democracy, and Euros. Can we afford to ignore their pleas? Let's just go to war and have done with it.

Stephen Harper! Ready, aye, ready!!

 

Geoff

It looks like Russia is determined to use all its fire-power to 'enable' Crimea to separate from Ukraine. Funny that the U.S. is outraged by Putin's actions.  It reminds me of the Americans' successful plot to 'enable' Panama to separate from Colombia in 1903, so the U.S. capital could build the Panama Canal. It seems the big kids on the block never tire of beating up on the smaller kids to suit their own purposes. History may not repeat itself, but it does sometimes run in parallel lines.

Further, given the authoritarian direction of American state (and that of Canada, for that matter), maybe the differences between Russia and us are not as great as we would like to think.  As Mr. Jorkin's says in A Christmas Carol, “We're all cutthroats under this finery”. 

NDPP

The US Has Installed A Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government...

"...We are not dealing with a transitional government in which Neo-Nazi elements integrate the fringe of the coalition, formally led by the Fatherland Party...The cabinet is not only integrated by the Svoboda and Right Sector (not to mention former members of the defunct - fascist UNA-UNSO), the two main Neo-Nazi entities have been entrusted with key positions which grant them de facto control over the Armed Forces, Police and National Security.

While Yatsenuyk's Fatherland Party controls the majority of portfolios and Svoboda Neo Nazi leader Oleh Tyahnybok was not granted a major cabinet post (apparently at the request of assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland), members of Svoboda and the Right Sector occupy key positions in the areas of Defence, Law Enforcement, Education, Justice and Economic Affairs.

It is important to reflect on the fact that the West, formally committed to democratic values, has not only spearheaded the demise of an elected president, it has installed a regime integrated by Neo-Nazis..."

 

Calls in Kiev to 'Regain Nuclear Status in 6 Months' (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/ukraine-nuclear-arsenal-threat-314/

"We'll regain our status as a nuclear power and that'll change the conversation. Ukraine has all the technological means to create a nuclear arsenal - which would take us about three to six months,' Svoboda Party MP Mikhail Golouko said.

American geopolitical analyst Eric Draitser takes the comment more seriously, in view of the financial aid the US and EU have been promising the new Ukrainian government.

'The money that we can't use to feed the poor and the hungry in the US and Europe - that money is going to support Nazis in Ukraine with nuclear ambitions, who are looking to destabilize the region, and whose sole goal is the destruction of Russia,' Draitser told RT."

NDPP

Russian Troops Heading to Ukraine (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/02/352935/russia-troops-heading-to...

"..According to recent reports, Kiev has called up all military reservists in preparation for a possible military conflict in the region.

Meanwhile Russia's Federal Border Service reported that Moscow is concerned about a 'humanitarian catastrophe' in Ukraine as new figures show an estimated 675,000 Ukrainian citizens have arrived in Russia in January and February of this year.."

 

Russia is Not Iraq or Syria: Radio Host (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/02/352943/russia-controls-red-line...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with Dimitry Babich, radio host, Voice of Russia, about the warning given by phone by Barack Obama to Vladimir Putin, to get Russian troops out of Ukraine."

NDPP

Ukraine Crisis: Country Mobilizes For War After Russian Military Moves (and vid)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-country-mobilizes-for-war-af...

"This is not a threat: this is actually the declaration of war to my country,' Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseny Yaseniuk, head of a pro-Western government that took power when Russian ally Viktor Yanukovich fled last week, said in English.

Canada's Foreign Minister John Baird condemned Russia's moves and called on Putin to stop his 'provocative and dangerous course of action, urging the Russian leader to withdraw his troops in the Crimea back to their bases. He reiterated that Canada had recalled its ambassador in Moscow and is boycotting the G8 preparations in Sochi, in a news conference Sunday in Toronto.

'Non particpation in the G8 will hurt Russia,' said NDP Leader Tom Mulcair at a Sunday news conference. 'Having the International community condemn as one this totally illegal invasion of a sovereign country certainly will help send a signal, even to the most obtuse regime like the Putin regime.'

In Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital, Yatsenyuk said there was no reason for Russia to invade Ukraine and warned that 'we are on the brink of disaster'..."

 

NorthReport

Gwynne Dyer: Ukraine needs cash and careful handling

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=112...

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NDPP

The Rape of Ukraine - Phase Two Begins  -  by F William Engdahl

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/27/the-rape-of-ukraine-phase-two-be...

"...The economic cooperation between Ukraine and Moscow was something Washington was determined to sabotage at all costs. The drama is far from over. The stakes involve the very future of Russia, the EU-Russian relations, and the global power of Washington, or at least that faction in Washington that sees further wars as the prime instrument of policy..."

 

Moscow Inverses Roles in Kiev  -  by Thierry Meyssan

http://www.voltairenet.org/article.82415.htm

"The revolution in Maidan Square masks an extremely classic coup. In the presence of US 'diplomats', the Rada has violated the constitution which it repealed without a referendum. It dismissed the President without debate or trial and bestowed legislative and executive powers upon Olaksandr Turchinov, the former head of the secret service.

Disorder will therefor continue in Ukraine, but it will be for the hosers hosed - the United States and the European Union - to bear the weight. Besides the financial burden, how will they manage their victorious Nazi and jihadist allies? Washington's show of force is turning into a fiasco."

NorthReport

The Ukraine crisis: John Kerry and Nato must calm down and back off

The hysterical reaction to Russian military movements in Crimea won't help. Only Kiev can stop this crisis becoming a catastrophe

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/02/not-too-late-for-uk...

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In the end Russia will get Crimea with the Black Sea port it's always wanted and there's really nothing anybody can do about it. Best of all it would appear this is going to happen without much real fighting between the military forces of Ukraine and Russia and that is a good thing for all involved. Add to that, from what I've seen in the media so far, it would appear a big majority of the people in Crimea are happy about this as well so that's another good thing. It will be interesting to see what happens in the other Russian majority regions of Ukraine now that Crimea has gone over into the Russian orbit. 

So from a Russian perspective this whole Ukraine thing turned out pretty good for them in the end. So good in fact one might wonder if they were behind all this and not the CIA nazi zombie army NDPP keeps post over and over about. Or... maybe, both sides were involved. 

Hmmmmmm... Well played Russia, well played indeed.

sherpa-finn

Just in case anyone was worried.....

Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird rules out Canadian military intervention in Ukraine

http://o.canada.com/news/foreign-affairs-minister-john-baird-rules-out-canadian-military-intervention-in-ukraine/

Of course we would have gone if only DND had not shot its travel budget moving retired generals across town.

NDPP

Urgent Action To Prevent War in Ukraine!

http://www.canadianpeacecongress.ca/nato/urgent-action-to-prevent-war-in...

"...Canada, a member of NATO, has sent Foreign Minister John Baird to Ukraine with the clear purpose of encouraging the pro-EU and pro-NATO faction that has taken over the present government in Kiev. This follows on a unanimous motion in the Canadian Parliament in January, that voiced support for anti-government protests and encouraged sanctions.

Canadian Peace Congress asserts that it is the sole right of the peoples of each country to determine the path of their social, economic and political development, free from foreign interference.

The Canadian government's efforts to meddle in Ukraine's internal affairs, and to use the crisis to pursue imperialist ambitions, is shameful and should be denounced.

Please contact Members of Parliament now, and call upon the government to immediately stop its intereference, and present war in Ukraine..."

Stockholm

NDPP wrote:

Canadian Peace Congress asserts that it is the sole right of the peoples of each country to determine the path of their social, economic and political development, free from foreign interference.

Good, then I assume the so-called Canadian Peace Conference will condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine and will stage a demonstration outside the Russian consulate to protest this latest act of Russian imperialism.

NDPP

Seriously, What?! Kerry Tells Russia 'You Don't Invade a Country on Completely Phony Pretexts' (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/kerry-russia-us-pretext-494/

"The US Secretary of State spoke today of the unacceptability of invading a sovereign country on phony pretexts in order to assert one's own interests in the 21st century. But no, he was not speaking about the United States.

'Since when does the United States [or Canada] genuinely subscribe and defend the concept of sovereignty and territorial integrity? They certainly are not doing that at the moment in Syria, Marcus Papadopoulos, Commentator for 'Politics First' told RT.

'They certainly did not do that when they attacked Libya. They certainly didn't do that when they invaded Iraq. They certainly didn't do that when they attacked Serbia over Kosovo and then later recognized Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence.

The US government merely pays lip service to sovereignty and territorial integrity, it picks and chooses. Since the crisis in Ukraine escalated to a point where the lives of the Russian speaking population of Ukraine have become threatened, Kerry's reaction comes, some believe, as the most ridiculous thus far..."

NDPP

'US Has Zero Leverage Over Russia' - Eric Draitser (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/03/353002/us-has-zero-leverage-ove...

"It's the height of hypocrisy for the US to condemn Russia's action in east of Ukraine. The Statements that you've heard from Secretary of State Kerry as well as from Obama himself all indicate that the United States is engaging in what George Orwell, famously referred to as 'double-think', that is holding two contradictory views at the same time and believing both of them..."

 

Lew To AIPAC: 'US Monitoring Ukraine With 'Grave Concern'

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/02/352977/us-monitoring-ukraine-wi...

"Before turning to the focus of my remarks, let me say that we are closely monitoring the situation in Ukraine with grave concern,' said US Treasury Secretary Jack Lew before the 2014 AIPAC Policy Conference.

Mr Lew said that Washington has called on Ukraine to seek assistance from the International Monetary Fund and that an IMF program must be the centerpiece of any assistance package. 'I have spoken several times to the Ukrainian Prime Minister who assures me that the government is prepared to take the necessary steps..."

NDPP

US Backed Ukrainian Regime Mobilizes Reserves, Threatening War With Russia  -  by Alex Lantier

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/03/ukra-m03.html

"In the most serious military crisis in Europe since the end of WWII, the Western-backed Ukrainian regime that took power in Kiev in a fascist-led putsch a week ago put its military on high alert yesterday. It also began calling up its reserve forces, totaling around  one million men, threatening war with Russia.

The day before, the upper house of the Russian parliament had unanimously passed a bill authorizing the deployment of Russian forces to Crimea, a majority Russian-speaking region of Ukraine where Russia has a major naval base at Sevastopol.

Russia's intervention in Ukraine is the inevitable outcome of the reckless decision by Washington and the EU to back a fascist putsch in Kiev.

Driven by social contradictions for which it has no solutions, Kiev is stoking confrontations with Russia in order to mobilize its tiny social base - fascists like the Svoboda party, or the Right Sector militia who praise the Holocaust and, identifying the USSR with Russia, combine hysterical anti-communism with anti-Russia hatred.

The main danger under these conditions is that imperialist powers will escalate the crisis into a major war, either by stoking conflict inside Ukraine or by directly intervening themselves..."

 

ICFI: The Crisis in Ukraine

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/03/pers-m03.html

"The ICFI denounces all those liberal and pseudo-left political organizations and publications that have promoted the Kiev putsch as a genuinely democratic and even revolutionary movement.

They have deliberately concealed the fact that it is not a working class movement. They have sought to hide the links of the leaders to forces who collaborated with the Nazis and the Holocaust in WWII..."

abnormal

Putin has just upped his game

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10672417/Ukrain...

It seems the ball in now in the US's court.

 

 

 

NDPP

Russian Option To Send Troops is Only to Protect Human Rights - Lavrov

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-human-rights-ukraine-542/

"Russia's decision to allow troops to be sent to Ukraine is meant to deter radicals from using violence in the country or to facilitate reconciliation, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

He dismissed the interpretation of the move by Western powers as an act of aggression on the part of Moscow and called on the West to stop using human rights as a pretext for pursuing geopolitical goals.

'I reiterate, we are talking here about protection of our citizens and compatriots, about protection  of the most fundamental of the human rights, the right to live, and nothing more,' Lavrov told the UN Council on Human Rights in Geneva.

'Human rights are too important to make it a bargaining chip in geopolitical games, to use it to impose one's will on others; less so to install regime change, he warned..."

NorthReport

Isn't The Telgraph basically Britian's equivalent to Fox News?

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Fraser seems to make a lot of sense, but is anyone listening? I don't think so, particularly Stephen Harper & Co.

 

Ukraine: there's no way out unless the west understands its past mistakes

Western leaders mostly paint the whole dispute as totally one-sided: it is all Russia’s fault. But the Crimea crisis is directly related to the misguided steps taken after the Soviet Union’s fall

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/03/ukraine-theres-no-w...

sherpa-finn

NorthReport: Isn't The Telgraph basically Britian's equivalent to Fox News?

No, that would  be the Daily Mail. The Telegraph itself is a respected, - tho' certainly conservative - quality newspaper.

NorthReport

If they are so credible, why is it then that every Conservative on the planet thinks that war, and showing the fist, is the solution to everything?

Conservative Harper is an international embarassment wanting to be more confrontational with Russia than the US already is.

sherpa-finn

Fair question, NR. For myself, I am OK with the view that reasonable people of assorted political persuasions can have quite different perspectives on what's happening in the real world and how best to deal with it. 

I am comfortable drawing a line between these - what I consider 'credible' - observers and those who instead choose to create and retro-fit imagined or magical realities to fit their predefined world view. Into that latter category I would place Fox News, the Daily Mail, and the Lyndon Larouches of this world.

ETA - Agreed re Harper. The dangerous game he plays IMHO is not being able to see over the ramparts of domestic politicking to actually bring a credible world view to the global table.

NorthReport

I see we are already full speed ahead with the propaganda war.

From The Telegraph:

15.20 BREAKING: Russian news agency Interfax says Ukraine faces 3am GMT deadline for the navy in Crimea to surrender or face "a real assault"

Russia never delivered any untimatum but don't let the truth get in the way of a good war.

 

Минобороны России опровергает сообщение об ультиматуме украинским военным в Крыму

http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/23525211/minoborony-ukrainy#ixzz2u...

 

NorthReport

Russia has requested a third emergency meeting of the UN Security Council over the situation in Ukraine.

6079_Smith_W

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/03/world/europe/ukraine-turns-to-its-olig...

Quote:

“The government is doing what it can to avoid provoking any internal divisions,” Steven Pifer, a former American ambassador to Ukraine who is now at the Brookings Institution, said in a telephone interview. “They need people who have credibility in eastern Ukraine. The risk is this will be seen as business as usual by putting wealthy people in government. That has been part of the problem for the past 22 years.”

 

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josh

The Telegraph is more like the Wall Street Journal the way the Daily Mail is like the New York Post. All right-wing Murdoch propaganda.

shartal@rogers.com

I fear Russian troops I Crimea. However outlawing Russian in schools (60% speak Russian) and neo nazis in government also terrify me.

abnormal

NorthReport wrote:

Russia never delivered any untimatum ...

That's seems to be the latest from Russia  - BTW, it wasn't just the Telegraph making the claim.  Reuters was in there too.

NorthReport

Are we not being hood-winked by the term "democracy"?

Former USA Suprteme Court Justice said that you can have concentration of wealth in a few hands, or you have democracy, but you cxan't have both. How many countries today do not have extreme concentrations of wealth in a few hands?;

Very few I would fathom. 

Democracy is not all that's it is cracked up to be.

http://thinkexist.com/quotations/democracy/

NorthReport

So what?

In a crisis, one would think that it would be imperative to check one's sources before reporting on anything that could grow a conflict.

Anyway, the Telegraph is now off my news sources list.

Reuters?

And what are their connections to the war industry?

abnormal wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

Russia never delivered any untimatum ...

That's seems to be the latest from Russia  - BTW, it wasn't just the Telegraph making the claim.  Reuters was in there too.

4990

Stockholm

NDPP wrote:

Russian Option To Send Troops is Only to Protect Human Rights - Lavrov

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-human-rights-ukraine-542/

Is this a joke??? Human rights are totally non-existent in Putin's Tsarist Russia and they claim they are invading Crimea to protect human rights??? Isn't that like what Hitler said when he annexed the Sudetenland? 

josh

The claim apparently came from Kiev. Which has made a series of overheated statements the past couple of days.

 

Russia calls for the February 21 agreement between Yanukovich and the opposition to be enforced.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/world-scrambles-as-russia-tig...

NorthReport

What a disaster.

Gwynne Dyer: Vladimir Putin, Ukraine, and a premature history of the second Cold War

http://www.straight.com/news/597731/gwynne-dyer-vladimir-putin-ukraine-a...

abnormal

NorthReport wrote:

So what?

In a crisis, one would think that it would be imperative to check one's sources before reporting on anything that could grow a conflict.

Anyway, the Telegraph is now off my news sources list.

Reuters?

And what are their connections to the war industry?

abnormal wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

Russia never delivered any untimatum ...

That's seems to be the latest from Russia  - BTW, it wasn't just the Telegraph making the claim.  Reuters was in there too.

4990

 

It wasn't just Reuters - it included Sky and every credible news source I could find on that side of the pond.

NorthReport

Yes but it's the credibility of the source which is at question here.

If you didn't know it by now, this example obviously makes a mockery of our news organizatiions, as thry are just propaganda tools. Even the CBC has been carrying the long-discredited news for more than 4 hours on their website.

6079_Smith_W
sherpa-finn

Yeah, and the Russian media is so incredibly reliable by comparison  ....  "Russian media reported yesterday that 675,000 people had fled Ukraine for Russia and warned of a “humanitarian catastrophe”, but reporters on the ground in Crimea suggested the story was fabricated."  (Reuters story from todays Guardian timeline)

For what its worth, you can trace on the same timeline recounts the ultimatum story (starts @3:17 pm on the timeline), which seems to have started with Interfax, a Russian news service.  

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/03/ukraine-crisis-russia-control-crimea-live

josh

Despite the headline, the article fails to substantiate a connection.

There's a lot of biased reporting aming all concerned, including RT and much of the English speaking press.

NorthReport

Actually it appears to have come from Kiev.

Quote:
Interfax is quoting a Ukrainian defence ministry source as saying the Russian fleet has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 3am GMT to surrender or face “storm”.

This needs to be treated with caution given the only source is an unnamed official.

 

No one here, that I am aware of, is suggesting that the Russian News Media is not full of propganda, just like our press is.

And often it seems every second artcile in the Globe, the Star, etc., seems to be quoting unnamed sources.

Our Western press does it all the time and very few raise an eyebrow. 

Too bad our MSP in Canada and the USA don't put in warnings about unnamed sources like The Guardian Interfax aricle did. 

My gut tells me it was a planted story to try and make the situation appear worse than it was. Anyway we will soon know whether or not it was factual - is it 3 AM GMT yet?

 

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