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howeird beale

"not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion"

Respect Party MP George Galloway on rape.

Because he's all about RESPECT.

Nice friends you have.

 

I guess letting the UN inspectors walk a few blocks over to inspect the bodies is too much to ask.

It's not the crime, it's the cover-up.

Anyway, comforting that you're the only one to post here in six weeks.

I guess gassing kids to protect dynastic succession just ain't selling any more.

 

Is this point of view any more popular where you work?

NDPP

Syrian Opposition Promises to Ensure UN Inspectors' Safety in Rebel-Controlled Areas

http://rt.com/news/syria-opposition-chemical-weapons-912/

"The Syrian opposition said they will ensure the safety of UN chemical weapons experts as they pass through rebel-controlled areas...The Syrian government said on Thursday that it was ready to engage in maximum cooperation with UN experts, according to Russia's foreign ministry.."

 

Anti-Syria Chemical Claims, Zionist Black Op: Analyst (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/24/320241/syria-chemical-claims-zi...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with Randy Short, political commentator from Washington, over the recent chemical attack near the Syrian capital Damascus.."

 

'Chemical Weapons' Media Propaganda in US, UK is Designed to Hide the Truth in Syria

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/08/22/chemical-weapons-media-propaganda-...

"Yesterday's report of an alleged 'chemical weapon' attack near Damascus has prompted the US and UK [and Canadian] media machines to spin into overdrive in the push for a military intervention and regime change in Syria..."

NDPP

The BBC on Syria and Chemical Weapons  -  by William Bowles

http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/08/the-bbc-on-syria-and-chemical-weapons/

"The entire event registers as false, as contrived and just too damn convenient and to have happened on the same day as the UN inspection team arrived. That's a coincidence? At the end of the day, it's the latest and the most elaborate provocation staged to try and justify direct foreign intervention by the Imperialist powers, given that the 'rebels' appear to be on the run..."

 

Lying About Syria, and the Lying Liars Who Lie About the Lying  -  by David Swanson

http://warisacrime.org/content/lying-about-syria-and-lying-liars-who-lie...

"Threatening to attack Syria, and moving ships into position to do it, are significant, illegal and immoral acts. The president can claim not to have decided to push the button, but he can't pretend that all the preparations to do so just happen like the weather. Or he couldn't if newspapers reported news;

(Yes, illegal. Read the UN Charter:

'All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.')

NDPP

Fear Spreads Through Palestinian Camps in Syria  -  by Franklin Lamb

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/23/fear-spreads-through-palestinian-...

"Many flee as worries over chemical weapons mount..."

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US Prepares Military Assault on Syria   -   by Barry Grey

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08/24/syri-a24.html

"...Even in advance of any open US military attack, US involvement in the fighting in Syria is increasing. Euronews.com on Thursday cited seperate French and Israeli reports that Jordanian, Israeli and American commandos [JTF2?] are heading up hundreds of Syrian rebels they have trained in a drive on Damascus.

'The reports claim a force of some 300 men crossed into Syria from Jordan on August 17, with a second group crossing, on the 19th' the web site reported. It continued.

'Analysts say this is stage one of the US strategy, training and leading in the field handpicked members of the Free Syrian Army to carve out a southern buffer zone along the Jordanian and Israeli border with which rebel forces can be tained and based.'

 

Canada's elite JTF2 Commandos are also rumoured to be involved in the Jordan-Syria crossings, according to informed sources...

 

Syria Chemical Weaons Major Topic Between Harper and French and British Leaders

http://winnipegfreepress.com/canada/syria-chemical-weapons-major-topic-b...

"Reports of chemical weapons being used in Syria have been a major topic of discussion between Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the leaders of France and Britain. Harper had separate phone conversations  Saturday with British PM David Cameron and French President Francois Hollande.."

CanadaOrangeCat

We are going to know little about what the Canadian forces are going to do in this theatre until after the bodies are counted.

Krago

To summarize: (1) The chemical attack never happened. (2) if it did occur, it was the Jews' fault.

NDPP

Syrian Opposition Leader to Press For More Canadian Help in Meeting with Baird

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/syrian-opposition-leader-to-pres...

"Baird, meanwhile, is under pressure from the head of Syria's main opposition group who is visiting Canada, George Sabra, president of the Western-backed Syrian National Council, and he wants Canada to do more to help put an end to the conflict. 'We need to see real movement now to protect Syrian people - not only statements, we need action,' Sabra said Saturday, prior to a town-hall style meeting in Montreal.

Sabra, whose coalition is based in Istanbul, Turkey, is scheduled to meet Baird on Wednesday in Montreal. He is visiting Ottawa and Toronto in the meantime. 'When we think about Canada we think about human rights. We expect a special role from Canada in this field,' he said.

Sabra's group has faced criticism of its own regarding treatment of women and religious minorities..."

 

howeird beale

Krago wrote:
To summarize: (1) The chemical attack never happened. (2) if it did occur, it was the Jews' fault.

 

No. there's more to it than that. It's just like the Rob Ford story.

The father labours his whole life to give his useless, jerkoff son a respectable position of political leadership.

His son is such a chronic fuckup, that even when gently lobbed the keys to power, he does a spectacular faceplant.

And his idiotic sycophants rush to defend his incompetent and disgusting behaviour by heralding him as "a man of the people."

 

How sophisticated. Good for you RT! Good for you Press TV! Good for you NDPP! How could the lumpenmass ever see through your subtle masterplan?

 

You're smart! Yes! You Are!

 

 

NDPP

US Media Manipulate Syria Events to Justify Possible Attack: Don De Bar (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/25/320463/west-media-manipulate-sy...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with Don De Bar, activist and political commentator in New York, about the chemicals found in militant-held tunnels in Damascus, now controlled by army forces.."

 

Sarin Gas: A New Propaganda Campaign Against Syria

http://www.voltairenet.org/article179900.html

"...This propaganda campaign is grotesque; as everyone can observe on YouTube, the video evidence of the incident August 21st has been posted by the 'Majen Rif' account...The day before on August 20. On these videos, shocking at first, one quickly detects a setup..The Russian authorities have denounced a propaganda campaign planned in advance..."

 

NDPP

Defeated NATO Dangerously Desperate in Syria

http://nsnbc.me/2013/08/25/defeated-nato-dangerously-desperate-in-syria/

"...What we are witnessing is an attempt by the West's corporate financier establishment to push for direct intervention faster than the facts can come out over what exactly happened near Damascus.

Just as was the one in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, the West hopes people can be made hysterical enough, long enough to get a 'foot in the door', so the bombs can start dropping. Failing to do so at this juncture would spell the absolute end of the West's current plans versus Syria and Iran..."

 

'Doctors' Behind Syria Chemical Weapons Claims are Aiding Terrorists   

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2013/08/doctors-behind-syrian-chemical-...

"The 'evidence upon which the West is propping up its narrative of the Syrian government using chemical weapons against large numbers of civilians  hinges so far entirely upon claims made by 'Doctors Without Borders'...

While it is often described by Western media as 'independent', nothing could be further from the truth..."

NDPP

Syrian Government Greenlights UN Chemical Weapons Probe

http://rt.com/news/syria-green-light-chemical-inspection-967/

"Syria has given the 'green light' for UN experts to visit the site of an alleged chemical weapons attack in a Damscus suburb, state TV reports, citing the Foreign Ministry.

The UN says its chemical weapons experts will start probing the site in the Damascus suburb of Ghoula as early as Monday..."

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Syria Charade: West Bent on War, UN Investigation Meaningless

http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-un-war-investigation-006/

"There is no evidence that the Syrian government ordered the massacre with chemical weapons but the West will blame it anyway because they want war, investigative journalist Neil Clark told RT.

'They are really bent on war and whatever the UN inspectors do this week won't matter because it is a replay of 2003 when Saddam Hussein was bullied into allowing weaons inspection teams into Iraq. They went in there, they found no weapons, and yet we still had the war.

In fact, they launched the war before the weapons inspection team could finish their job. It is a very similar scenario now in Syria..."

 

Seven Countries in Five Years - American General Lays it Out (and vid)

http://xrepublic.tv/node/5062

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Hysteria Around Chemical Attack Suits Those Who Want Military Intervention in Syria - Lavrov (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/lavrov-syria-press-conference-003/

"Following last week's chemical attack, the West has engineered a media campaign to facilitate a military incursion, says Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

Lavrov said that the US, Britain and other countries have assembled a 'powerful force' and are 'readying their ships and planes for a possible invasion'.

The minister said that the development set the world on a 'perilous path' and warned that 'repeating the Iraqi and Libyan scenario' and bringing in outside forces, would be a 'terrible mistake that will lead to more blood being spilt."

 

Britain Set to Bomb Syria Over Suspected Chemical Weapon Atrocity Which Killed Hundreds of Children

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britain-set-bomb-syria-over-2222568

"David Cameron is considering an allied bombing blitz with France and the US which could start in days. Military targets are being identified. The Western allies said a 'firm response' was needed and accused President Bashar al Assad's regime of 'hiding evidence' about the gas attack..."

NDPP

President al Assad: Syria Will Never Become a Western Puppet State

http://nsnbc.me/2013/08/26/president-al-assad-syria-will-never-become-a-...

"...To be very precise, I am referring to the West and not all world leaders, if those Western leaders are looking to achieve their interests, they need to listen to their own constituents and to the people in this region rather than seeking to install puppet leaders, in the hope that they would be able to deliver their objectives. In doing so, western policy may become more realistic in the region.

Our message to the world is straightforward. Syria will never become a Western 'puppet' state. We are an independent country; we will fight terrorism and we will freely build relationships with countries in a way that best serves the interests of the Syrian people..."

NDPP

US Uses Past Crimes to Legalize Future Ones  -  by Diana Johnstone

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/26/us-uses-past-crimes-to-legalize-f...

"The liberal warhawks are groping around for a pretext they can call 'legal' for waging war against Syria, and have come up with the 1999 'Kosovo war.' This is not surprising as a primary purpose of that US/NATO 78-day bombing spree was always to set a precedent for more such wars..."

NDPP

UK Gathers Warplanes, Military Hardware in Cyprus Base Near Syria - Report (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/uk-us-military-strike-syria-027/

"Warplanes and military transports' have reportedly been moved to Britain's Akrotiri airbase in Cyprus in the latest sign of the allied forces' preparations for a military strike on Syria amid bellicose rhetoric against the Syrian government..."

NDPP

Israeli Delegation in US for Syria Talks (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/27/320675/israeli-delegation-in-us...

"A senior Israeli delegation has visited the White House to discuss recent developments in the Middle East - including the Syrian issue.

US National Security Advisor Susan Rice on Monday met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's top national security advisor, retired major general Yackov Amidor.

On Sunday, Israeli President Shimon Peres called for an international action against the Syrian government. Israel has put its own military on high alert..."

 

American Attack on Syria Announced by Israel

http://www.roitov.com/articles/surya.htm

"The banner above was the main headline of Yediot Ahranot - the largest paid Hebrew newspaper - on August 26, 2013. The text reads 'On The Way To The Attack' and shows images of USA's President Obama and Syria's President Assad.

The article it illustrates wasn't about the ongoing violence in Syria, but one describing the details of an American-British attack on Syria.

One decade after the Mother of All Battles, Israel is again attempting to wag the dog..."

 

Israel Grants Oil Rights in Syria to Murdoch and Rothschild

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2013/02/israel-grants-oil-rights-...

"Israel is now seeking to take advantage of the weakened Syrian state..."

 

"Greater Israel': The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...

"...The war on Syria is part of the process of Israeli territorial expansion. Israeli intelligence working hand in glove with the US, Turkey and NATO is directly supportive of the Al Qaeda terrorist mercenaries inside Syria.."

NDPP

Another Western War Crime in the Making

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/27/another-western-war-crime-in-the-...

"Washington and its British and French puppet governments are poised to yet again reveal their criminality. The image of the West as War Criminal is not a propaganda image created by the West's enemies, but the portrait that the West has painted of itself..."

 

US Begins War On Syria As Early As Thursday, Officials Say

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/27/320762/us-war-on-syria-as-early...

"Some American officials say the United States has planned to launch missile strikes against Syria 'as early as Thursday' in order to punish Damascus over the alleged use of chemical weapons.

The unnamed officials told NBC News on Tuesday that the 'three days' of strikes would be limited in scope and aimed at 'sending a message to Syria's President Bashar al Assad rather than degrading his military capabilities..."

 

Syria 'Chemical Weapons' Crisis: Live Updates

http://rt.com/news/syria-crisis-live-updates-047/

 

IAC: War Alert - Syria In Danger of US Bombing

http://www.iacenter.org/actions/syria082713/

"We, as the antiwar movement, have a duty to denounce any military action against Syria by the United States.

If US war begins against Syria, be in the streets.

Make plans..."

 

NDPP

Syria Situation Incredibly Serious: Franklin Lamb (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/27/320793/syria-situation-incredib...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with Franklin Lamb, international lawyer, about the escalating rhetoric of war against Syria. 'I don't know if you remember a more dangerous time than right now in Washington. I was on a conference call and I can share with you some statistics that Hagel advised that they've identified 600 targets in Syria, 380 of them just in Damascus.

They're going to kill a lot of civilians.

I cannot recall a more dangerous situation than we face in the next five or six days..."

 

Forcing Obama Into A Prolonged Syrian War 

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/27/forcing-obama-into-prolonged-syri...

"For Bander and his Zionist collaborators, the key issue is not whether Obama authorizes the use of American force as a response to Syria's use of CW.

Rather the key imperative is that the US use whatever force is necessary to achieve regime change and choose the next regime assuring that it will be friendly to Israel.

Sources in Iran and Syria have advised this observer that they expect the US bombing to commence within 72 hours..."

 

Harper, Obama Agree on 'Firm Response' To Chemical Weapons Attacks in Syria (and vid)

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/harper-obama-agree-on-firm-response-to-ch...

"...According to a statement about the conversation released Tuesday afternoon by Harper's spokesperson, both leaders agreed that the use of chemical weapons is 'an outrage'.

'Both leaders noted efforts by the Syrian regime to delay the work of the UN chemical inspection team, suggesting the regime is attempting to obscure evidence of its actions. Both leaders agreed that significant use of chemical weapons merits a firm response from the international community in an effective and timely manner.'

On Monday, US Secretary of State John Kerry said it was 'undeniable' that chemical weapons had been used while Baird did not use the word 'alleged' when referring to a chemical weapons attack.

A brief statement from the White House said, 'The United States and Canada strongly oppose the use of chemical weapons, and the President and Prime Minister pledged to continue to consult closely on potential response by the international community.'

NDPP

Syria: The Questions That Must Be Answered Before Any Aggression

http://dissidentvoice.org/2013/08/syria-the-questions-that-must-be-answe...

"Below we pose several questions, the basis of this article, which intends to reveal the whole truth behind the issue of the Syrian civil war. These questions have been sent to the British Foreign and Commonwealth office of the US State Department.

The answers, if they have any, will be revealed to our readers..."

 

War Propaganda and Media Lies (and vid)

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2013/08/war-propaganda-and-media-lies-within...

"Investigative journalist Michel Collon speaks with RT on the use of chemical weapons in the Syria conflict. Did Bashar al Assad use chemical weapons in Syria?"

 

CrossTalk: Destroying Syria (and vid)

http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/destroying-syria-iraq-us-095/

"What would be the implication of Western intervention in Syria?

NDPP

this from the western warparty

Looking Back at Kosovo Can Move The Syrian Conflict Forward    -   by Lloyd Axworthy and Allan Rock

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/why-looking-back-at-kosovo-can...

"R2P can and should be used as the basis for action in Syria. President Obama is right in looking to Kosovo as a model for Syria."

 

Debating Action Around Syria (and vid)

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Politics/ID/2403232454/

"Former member of foreign affairs Lloyd Axworthy on Britain's UN draft resolution on military force against Syria..."

NDPP

UK Draft Resolution Blaming Assad for 'Chemical Weapons' Attack (and vid

http://rt.com/news/uk-resolution-syria-security-council-099/

"Britain has drafted a UN Security Council resolution condemning the Assad regime's alleged use of chemical weapons..."

 

Foreign Minister : Armed Forces in Syria Have Never Used Chemical Weapons

http://sana.sy/eng/21/2013/08/27/499476.htm

"Any military aggression on Syria comes in [the] interest of Israel..."

 

 

NDPP

Syria Braces For Western 'Limited Strikes'

http://rt.com/news/syria-prepares-military-intervention-132/

"There are fears of high casualty rates in the capital if the Western forces launch an attack. 'We live in the capital. Every turn, every street, every neighbourhood has some government target. 'Where do we hide?' a resident tells the press.

Meanwhile Damascenes have started panic buying essential goods. Bread, dried and canned foods, as well as batteries and water are in high demand.

Around 6,000 Syrians escaped to Lebanon in a 24 hour period, AP has learned from an anonymous source at the border crossing."

 

Russia, China Urge Restraint Over Syria Military Intervention

http://rt.com/news/china-russia-restraint-syria-136/

"...But although the [UN] resolution has not been officially submitted yet, US officials have already made clear that Barack Obama will decide on a military strike regardless of the results of the vote. 'I have concluded that the Syrian government in fact carried out these attacks out,' Obama told PBS Newshour..."

 

Israeli Intelligence 'Intercepted Syrian Regime Talk About Chemical Attack'

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/28/israeli-intelligence-interc...

"The bulk of evidence proving the Assad regime's deployment of chemical weapons - which would provide legal grounds essential to justify any western military action - has been provided by Israeli military intelligence..."

 

The War on Iran Begins....In Syria  -  by Eric Draitser

http://rt.com/op-edge/us-war-iran-begins-syria-096/

"As the United States with its European and Israeli allies, prepares to launch yet another illegal war of aggression in the Middle East, the geopolitics of the US strategy could not be more apparent.

Despite the high-minded talk of humanitarianism, the US is advancing a transparently neo-colonialist agenda aimed at securing hegemony in the region by destroying what little opposition remains.

And so, as news outlets report on the 'likely use of chemical weapons' by Damascus without anything other than unverifiable hearsay and ambiguous video footage, the drumbeat of war gets louder and lounder.

A centerpiece of this strategy is the Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline deal signed last month."

 

NDPP

US Attack On Syria May Cause WWIII - Interview with Rick Rozoff (STOP NATO)

http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/u-s-attack-on-syria-may-cause...

"If the West is allowed to launch military aggression in Syria, using any pretext, Iran, Russia, China and the few remaining countries in the world who possess independent foreign polices will be left with no remaining buffer between themselves and the US-NATO war machine."

 

Obama Set For Holy Tomahawk War  -  by Pepe Escobar

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-270813.html

"The 'responsibility to protect (R2P) doctrine invoked to legitimize the 2011 war on Libya has just transmogrified into 'responsibility to attack' (R2A) Syria.

Just because the Obama administration says so. Evidence? Who cares about Evidence? The window of opportunity for war is now. Assad's forces were winning.

Now Israel and Saudi Arabia aer oh so excited about because they are getting exactly what they dream just by good ol' Wag the Dog methods. Tel Aviv has even telegraphed how it wants it: This Monday, the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper headlined with 'On the Way to Attack' and even printed the ideal Order of Battle.

Holy Tomahawk!"

 

Western Pathological Liars Hold World To Ransom  -  by Finian Cunningham

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/28/320924/western-liars-hold-world...

"Who are these butchers, mass murderers and liars to pose as defenders and protectors of humanity? Their cynicism and hypocrisy are outstanding. The truly appalling thing is that the vast majority of sane, moral humanity has to endure listening to these psychopaths who hold the rest of us ransom with their criminal insanity..."

The timing of the expected military attack on Syria is said to have been delayed because Obama was working on his oration to commemorate the 50-year anniversary of Martin Luther King's 'I have a dream' speech this week in Washington..."

 

 

NDPP

Syria, Senate Questions Likely At PM Harper Announcement

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/08/29/pol-harper-questions.html

"Prime Minister Stephen Harper is likely to face questions on the Senate and Syria at an announcement in Toronto this morning beginning at 11:15 a.m. ET

On Thursday, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird met with George Sabra, president of the Syrian National Council (SNC), which opposes the regime of Syrian President Bashar al Assad.

CBC News Will carry Harper's news conference live."

 

**'Don't Attack Syria!' Toronto Rally - SATURDAY, Aug 31, 2013: US Consulate, 360 University Ave. Toronto. 2-4PM **

https://www.facebook.com/events/488807064546019/

The Canadian Peace Alliance is calling on all its members and supporters to oppose an impending US-led attack on Syria..."

NDPP

Red Line Drawn With Syrian Blood  -  by Musa al Gharbi

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/29/red-lines-drawn-with-syrian-blood/

"Then as now, the truth or falsity of these claims is irrelevant. Just as geopolitical interests trump 'intelligence', they trump morality as well..."

 

 

British Parliament: George Galloway MP Speaks on Syria (and vid)

http://youtu.be/AgxzpQrqSkg

This is what opposition sounds like. What we have in Ottawa 'representing' us are accomplices..

 

Syria Military Mission Not Planned By Canada, Harper Says (and vid)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/08/29/pol-harper-syria.html

"Prime Minister Stephen Harper says Canada has no plans for a military mission of its own in Syria, although the government supports its allies and has been convinced of the need for 'forceful action'..."

NDPP

Confirmed: US Claims Against Syria - There is No Evidence 

http://nsnbc.me/2013/08/28/confirmed-us-claims-against-syria-there-is-no...

"The Wall Street Journal has confirmed what many suspected, that the West's so called 'evidence' of the latest alleged 'chemical attacks' in Syria, pinned on the Syrian government are fabrications spun up from the West's own dubious intelligence agencies..."

'By way of deception, thou shalt do war' - Mossad

NDPP

CrossTalk: Destroying Syria (and vid)

http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/destroying-syria-iraq-us-095/

"What would be the implications of Western intervention in Syria? What is the way to end the Syrian stalemate? Crosstalking with Yazan Abdallah, Michael Shank and Ed Krayewski."

 

CrossTalk: Pepe Escobar vs Stephen Schlesinger (and vid)

http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/syria-iran-war-us-192/

"Would American direct intervention in Syria be about justice? Can its purpose be clearly defined? Is this a way to send a message to Iran? And has President Obama backed himself into a corner this time? CrossTalking with Pepe Escobar and Stephen Schlesinger."

Bec.De.Corbin Bec.De.Corbin's picture

Well judging from the pictures of the casulties now all over the internet there's no doubt there were chemical attacks in those areas. What I can't find are pictures of the method of delivery (no Unionist it wasn't FedEx) and that makes me suspicious. People in the area claim it was a rocket artillery attack that delivered the chemicals. The regime has those assets available (BM 21 rocket launchers) to do such an attack but if that were true there would be casings from the rockets that delivered the chemicals lying around on the ground, they would be quit conspicuous, and I find it hard to believe nobody hasn’t posted pictes of them yet (the rebels post pictures of everything else so why not this?).

WARNING: BORING MILLITARY THECHNIAL MUMBO-JUMO AHEAD

Here's why I have my doubts about this... Chemical artillery shells, rockets or bombs are different from their regular high explosive versions. High explosive or regular artillery and bombs are packed with TNT and explode into small pieces to cause damage. Chemical weapons delivery systems, no matter what type they are, use a small charge in the warhead to burst or spit open the casing to dispense the chemical over the target area. This would leave the casing from the rocket or shell that held the chemical still fairly intact (when it hits the ground) so you would have these large pieces of shell casings lying around on the ground. If they were artillery rockets as claimed that section of the rocket would be at least a meter or so long and would be easy to identify. So... where are they?

I have seen no such evidence of any of this as of yet so like I said, I have my doubts as to if the regime really did this. (and even if I did I still think this is none of our concern).

NDPP

Keep watching Bec and let us know whatever you find further on this...

Here's more:

 

Commit a War Crime to Cover Up a War Crime    -    by William Bowles

http://www.theprogressivemind.info?p=102642

"Poison gas story planted by Mossad in the Western media..."

radiorahim radiorahim's picture

It'll probably take a while until we find out what really happened.    We don't know whether this was a deliberate act, or simply someone's fuck up.   I'm leaning towards it being someone's fuck up right now.

But whenever the USians start talking of war or military actions my handy dandy bs-o-meter goes off.

 

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Are Westerners Ready to Bomb Syria?  -  by Thierry Meyssan

http://www.voltairenet.org/article179981.html

"Another interpretation of events is possible:

...the chiefs of staff of approximately the same states, plus Saudi Arabia and CANADA, are gathered since Sunday and until tonight in Amman under the chairmanship of the CENTCOM Commander, General Lloyd J Austen III.

They are considering five options:

supplying weapons to the Contras,

targeting bombings,

creating a no-fly zone

and land invasion..."

 

Canada Weighing Involvement in War Against Syria (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/30/321233/canada-weighing-involvem...

"Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister has suggested that Ottawa will be open to participate in a military strike against Syria..."

 

 

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UN Team Wraps Up Work, Starts To Leave Syria (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/31/321355/un-team-wraps-up-work-le...

"The United Nations chemical weapons inspection team, which was probing banned chemical attacks in Syria, has wrapped up its work, starting to leave Syria..."

 

US Claims on Chemical Attack False: Syria (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/31/321328/us-claims-on-gas-attack-...

"The Syrian government has dismissed US allegations that Damascus was behind a recent chemical weapons attack in the Arab country. It added that Kerry's claims are 'a desperate attempt to talk the world into accepting the upcoming US aggression."

 

Saudi Prince Bandar Behind Chemical Attack in Syria: Report

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/30/321260/syria-militants-use-saud...

"Syrians in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta say Saudi Arabia provided chemical weapons for an al-Qaeda linked terrorist group which they blame for the August 21 chemical attack in the region, a report says.

Interviews with doctors, residents, anti-government forces and their families in Ghouta suggest the terrorists in question received chemical weapons via Saudi spymaster chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan Al Saud..."

 

Analysts: Hezbollah Will Attack Israel in Reaction to a Western Strike on Syria (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/08/31/321364/analysts-hezbollah-will-...

"Hezbollah has repeatedly stated that what is taking place in Syria is targeting not only the Assad leadership, but also the anti-Israeli resistance axis that also comprises Iran and Hezbollah.."

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The War Against Syria and American Democracy

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/08/31/pers-a31.html

"Polls show that as little as 9% of the American people support military strikes on Syria, rising to only 25% if it is proven that the Syrian regime of Bashar al Assad used chemical weapons - the central claim of the US and its allies.

The chasm that separates official opinion from the real sentiments of the mass of the people is virtually without precedent."

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Syria Says Ready For Attack 'At Any Moment'

http://rt.com/news/syria-expects-military-attack-250/

"Russia also clearly stated that 'any military action against Syria by the US, bypassing the UN Security Council, would be an act of aggression and a flagrant violation of international law."

 

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Rick Rozoff: Response To A Friend on Obama's Speech  (and vid)

http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/response-to-a-friend-on-obama...

"Again let me play devil's advocate:

Aside from the obvious fact that no head of state, with or without the approval of his nation's legislative branch can inform the world that he intends to militarily attack another nation that threatens neither his own or any other country (despite Obama's repeated and thoroughly dishonest invocations of 'national security') constituting a gross insult to the international order, look what, in effect, he has done:

He has put the whole world on notice, the way that a cat plays with a mouse before mauling and killing it, what he intends to do..."

 

Putin: US Should Present Syria Evidence to Security Council (and vid)

http://rt.com/news/putin-us-syria-evidence-249/

"Putin has further called the Western tactic a provocation.."

 

Syria Sends Oil to 2 Year High, $150 Spike Feared

http://rt.com/business/oil-syria-price-150-098/

"Oil has jumped to a two-year high and could see Brent spike as high as $150 per barrel as US and Western allies move towards a military strike on Syria.

A conflict in Syria would benefit more 'detached' oil producing countries, like Saudi Arabia, which would be able to capitalize on supply chokes..."

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The Truthseeker: America's Next Colonies: Part 1 - Ep 20 (and vid)

http://rt.com/shows/the-truthseeker/shocking-torture-footage-dictators-694/

"Anti-Assad groups admit a 'third force' sparked the war..."

 

The Truthseeker: America's Next Colonies: Part 2 - Ep 21 (and vid)

http://rt.com/shows/the-truthseeker/us-israel-leak-policy-348/

"Leaked Israel-US plans to carve up Asia at Friends of Syria talks.."

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Montreal Protests Bring Out Al Assad Supporters

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/08/20130831-17...

"Many of the hundreds who attended Saturday afternoon made it clear they were pro-Bashar Assad."

 

Syrian Canadians Say 'Hands Off Syria' (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/09/01/321580/syriancanadians-say-hand...

"The protests erupted on the same day that a member of Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs revealed that the Canadian government has given at least $5.3 million of taxpayer money to the al Qaeda affiliated opponents.

They say Israel wants to promote ethnic and religious sectarianism in the Middle East to weaken its adversaries, a genocidal project which they say Canada should not be funding with taxpayer money."

 

 

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Syria: Is an Attack on the Country Legal?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/08/29/syria-us-attack-legal-un.html

"No state may play police officer to the world on its own say-so, law experts say. Simply put, any attack without UN consent would break international law..."

 

Obama, Congress and Syria   -  by Glenn Greenwald

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/19183-obama-congress-and-...

"It's a potent sign of how low the American political bar is set that gratitude is expressed because a US president says he will ask Congress to vote before he starts bombing another country that is not attacking or threatening the US..."

 

 

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Bandar Ibn Israel

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2013/08/bandar-ibn-israel/

"For Riyadh and Tel Aviv, Syria is the frontline battle from which they seek to cripple the Iranians in the region. None have been as ferocious in lobbying Washington on the issue of Syrian 'chemical weapons use' and 'redlines' as this duo - perhaps even setting up false flag operations to force its hand."

 

US Wants to Break Up Shia Alliance in ME: Eric Draitser (and vid)

http://presstv.com/detail/2013/09/01/321626/us-wants-to-break-up-shia-al...

"Press TV has conducted an interview with Eric Draitser, founder of stopimperialism.com

 

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Surgical Strike

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Dubious Intelligence and Iran Blackmail: How Israel is Driving the US to War in Syria   -   by Max Blumenthal

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/09/dubious-intelligence-and-iran-blackmail-ho...

"Giora Inbar, a former Israeli intelligence officer, told Channel 2 that the US was not only 'aware' of Israel's intelligence gathering efforts in Syria, it 'relies' upon it.

The threat of a unilateral Israeli strike on Iran if the US does not act on Syria is slowly seeping into American media and will almost certainly grow more pronounced this week as pro-Israel pundits and members of the Obama administration unite in this message. AIPAC may also join the push..."

 

Mounting Evidence Raises Questions About Syrian Chemical Attack

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/28/mounting-evidence-raises-question...

"Some of the evidence touted by the Obama White House is questionable at best..."

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Pepe Escobar: Bombing Syria a 'Win-Win' For Obama 

http://rt.com/op-edge/syria-obama-strike-congress-279/

"The evidence that they have was offered essentially by Benny Gantz - the chief of the Israeli Defense Force - directly to Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It was intel, basically by Mossad. It can be extremely compromised.

On top of this we have a triple agenda here: the Obama administration, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Bandar 'Bush' is in charge of the Syrian war since he became director of national intelligence in Saudi Arabia.

There is a direct connection between Bandar 'Bush' and these hardcore Wahhabis..."

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Canadian speaks up in Ottawa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ca0UwvzjXg

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I follow Maher Arar ‏@ArarMaher 1 Sep on tweeter.

Read this informed non-biased oped on #Syria by @MazMHussain. Pls focus on facts mentioned & leave ur emotions aside.  http://ow.ly/2241ko 

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I find that I get a better understanding of what is going on in Syria, and what the people want than trying to read through a Western focussed lens. The article is a good read. Also Maher is going through a political history of Syria which is also very informative.

Don't steal Syria's revolution

What should be done?

What the United States should do is what the Syrian people have been asking for from the beginning: Provide Syrians with the arms and equipment that will allow them to level the playing field with the regime and thus determine their own destiny. This is one option that has never been fully embraced, ostensibly due to the fear that such weapons will be delivered to international jihadist groups. But such a fear is overblown, as Syria is a largely urbane, cosmopolitan society with a large, identifiable opposition already vetted by the US and its NATO allies. The mistakes of 1980s Afghanistan need not be repeated, and many Syrians have shown themselves to be as hostile to foreign jihadists as they are to the Assad regime.

Furthermore, if Western powers are sincere in their humanitarian concerns for Syria, a far more effective gesture than dropping bombs on Damascus would be to allow some of the millions of Syrian refugees safe harbour from the conflict in Europe, the US, and other Western states. "Intervention" has recently become a curious synonym for "war", but there is nothing that logically suggests it needs to be. Indeed, history has shown that such military "interventions" tend to worsen humanitarian catastrophes rather than alleviate them.

Instead, the US should help create the political conditions in which this war can safely end. What this means is reining in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, while negotiating with Iran and Russia to create a non-zero-sum situation in which they can acquiesce to Assad's exit without losing face or coming under threat themselves. Throughout all this, the Syrian opposition should be bolstered so that it can negotiate its own fate in a post-Assad Syria and protect the values and principles upon which the revolution was launched.

It is not too late to save Syria, but Western powers sincerely seeking to do good will not accomplish this by rushing into yet another ill-advised war. By empowering Syrians themselves while creating the political conditions to end the fighting, the West can help Syrians without robbing them of their self-determination or inadvertently worsening their situation.

The mistakes of the recent past must not be repeated if Syria is to emerge as a unified, stable and peaceful country once again.

Murtaza Hussain is a Toronto-based writer and analyst focused on issues related to Middle Eastern politics.

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janfromthebruce wrote:

I follow Maher Arar ‏@ArarMaher 1 Sep on tweeter.

 

https://twitter.com/ArarMaher/status/373991744104562688

"Crucial to understand that successive American admins have viewed ME politics through two prisms: 1. Oil  2. Security of Israel"

I certainly would agree with him there...

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Hezbollah Mobilizes Forces Ahead of Potential US-Led Attack on Syria

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/09/02/321736/hezbollah-mobilizes-forc...

"Lebanon's Hezbollah resistance movement is mobilizing its force as the war rhetoric against Syria intensifies, witnesses say. Meanwhile Lebanon's Al-Akhbar daily has reported that the 'Syrian army has mobilized units that have not participated until now in the conflict'..."

 

Who Benefits From US War on Syria? (and vid)

http://www.presstv.com/Program/321704.html

"The United States and its western allies have been dragging their feet in dealing with an attack on Syria. Why are Israel, some Arab states and the Syrian Turkey-based opposition pressing for military action against Syria?"

Rick Rozoff (STOP NATO) interviewed

 

Corbett Report: Who is Really Behind the Syrian War? (and vid)

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2013/09/who-really-behind-syrian-war

"Given that the pretext for attacking Syria is falling apart before the public's eyes, why is the US preparing to wage war on that country?"

 

 

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On Obama's Plan, A Message Emerges in Israel: Stay Quiet - NYT

http://www.news247.co/on-obamas-plan-a-message-emerges-in-israel-stay-qu...

"Behind closed doors, Mr Netanyahu told his cabinet on Sunday that the situation was 'evolving', with 'delicate matters' that he was managing 'with discretion and responsibility,' and warned: 'There is no room for private statements.'

'I ask that you not act without consideration and irresponsibly toward our ally in order to capture a moment of glory,' Mr Netanyahu said, according to someone who was there and spoke on the condition of anonymity. 'These statements do not serve the citizens of Israel.'

Israel is gravely concerned about America's waning influence in the Middle East. Israel sees Syria as a test case for Mr Obama's credibility in enforcing 'red lines', given his promise to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

'It would be a mistake to overplay the Israeli interest,' said Hamar Rabinovitch, who was Israel's ambassador to the United States and also its chief negotiator with Syria in the 1990s.

'It's bad for Israel that the average American gets it into his or her head that boys are again sent to war for Israel. They have to be sent to war for America.'..."

 

But some just can't keep quiet...

Under The Careful Stewardship of the Ideologue-In-Chief

http://www.jewishtribune.ca/commentary/2013/08/29/under-the-careful-stew...

"Under the careful stewardship of the ideologue in chief, Barack Obama, America finds itself not only a laughing stock among the nations but a ruined superpower going through the last gasps of imperialism on the way to mediocrity.

Many are the losers in this disastrous turn of events, none more so than tiny Israel and the Jewish people.

Israel's supposed best friend is now threatening her with being delegitimized.

It should be realized that Hitler set out to delegitimize the Jews before he destroyed them. This militancy toward Israel is one of the few foreign policy moves by Obama that demonstrates any back bone.

That such spinal fortitude is directed toward Israel is more than merely instructive: it's downright chilling.

It's time not to take Obama's phone calls..."

my goodness...

 

Brzezinski: 'Global Political Awakening' Making Syrian War Difficult

http://www.storyleak.com/brzezinski-global-political-awakening-making-sy...

"Given the contemporary reality of what I have called in my writings 'Global Political Awakening', a policy of force based primarily on Western and in some cases former colonial powers does not seem to me a very promising avenue to an essential solution to the regional problem,' said Brzezinski, referring to the situation in Syria.

'The major world powers, new and old, also face a novel reality; while the lethality of their military might is greater than ever, their capacity to impose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at a historic low.

To put it bluntly: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people; today it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people,' said Brzezinski.

Despite attempts by both the Republican and Democratic leadership to gain support for the war in Syria, a new Reuters poll revealed that only 9 percent of Americans support military intervention in Syria.

If the US intervenes, it will be the least popular war in American history."

 

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