Temporary foreign workers and Canadian Mines

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Now we're talking.

I'm so sick of the arrogance of the corporate elite in this country.

Money is the only thing that matters to them, so this is the exact way to deal with these creeps. 

Go ahead Lee and make the billion dollar transfer to a credit union like Vancity. The Royal Bank thinks it is OK to screw Canadian workers so then it must be OK for workers to screw the Royal Bank. And there a whole lot more Canadians supporting you than are supporting the Royal Bank.

 B.C. union pensions threaten to move $1 billion of funds from RBC over outsourcing plans





This TFW program is the biggest scam to hit Canada in a long, long time. And they are all in it up to their eyeballs - the federal government, provincial governments, and companies like HD Mining and the Royal Bank. Pay attention to this folks as your standard of living is at stake here. HD Mining needs to be sent packing, the RBC should be crippled by its depositors, and the governments involved should be blown out of the water at their next respective election dates. And where is Jason Kenney? Why is he hiding, eh? Let's bring him into the TFW limelight so we can get a good look at his dirty fingers in all of this.

Excluded paperwork causes flap in HD Mining review

A Federal Court judge presiding over a judicial review of Chinese workers imported for a B.C. mine snapped at a government lawyer Thursday over paperwork of unknown importance left out of the court documents.

The courthouse in downtown Vancouver was hearing arguments over a package of documents a government officer looked at before issuing Labour Market Opinions on the import of 201 Chinese miners to a Tumbler Ridge HD Mining coal operation.

Union lawyers objected to the issuing of the market research that determined there were no qualified Canadians for the jobs.

“How in the hell am I supposed to know if they (the excluded documents) are relevant or not?” Justice Russell Zinn told federal lawyer Lorne Lachance.

“How do I know that they haven’t resulted in some miscarriage of justice? You’re asking me to virtually accept on faith your submission to the court that they don’t contain relevant information.”

The unions argued in court the package is unreliable without the documents.

Lachance, representing Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, told the court the excluded paperwork — a LMO issued to HD Mining’s sister company Canadian Dehua International — only contained “background information” that weren’t included in the officer’s assessment notes.

“In hindsight, we probably could have said, ‘If those are really imperative, let’s put them in,’” Lachance told court.

“(The officer) only looked at a very narrow part of the CDI application.”





The Long List of Canadian Firms Who Have Sought Temporary Foreign Workers


"The 33,000 companies and agencies who have applied to the federal termporary foreign worker program in Canada stretches to almost every corner of the economy, ranging from the biggest players in the finance and resource sectors to airlines, hotels, government agencies, and the Canadian Broadcasting Corp, according to documents obtained by the Globe and Mail..."

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The problem is our immigration system that only allows the elites from other countries to get in.  If we need people for jobs then they should be immigrants not indentured slaves. The media jumps on the stories that involve skilled jobs but the program is mostly about bringing in cheap labour to fill unskilled entry level jobs.

If a Tim's franchisor can't find employees at the wage and benefits they are offering then they should raise the wages until people apply. Isn't that what supply and demand basics are all about?  It is not that they can't find workers it is that they can't find workers to work for the shitty pay they are offering.  If they can't compete with local businesses when they pay good wages then let them go bankrupt. If the Tim Horton's goes out of business in a small town then the local coffee shop will get more business.


Disgusting, despicable, mean-spirited. 

All workers newed to get themselves into a union to stop people like RBC executives from preying on you like this.  Isn't that clear by now?

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Why is Jason Kenney hiding from his TFW baby that he is most in love with?  Coward!


Oh, yea, another winner who is going to protect Canadian jobs. Not!


But that apparent focus on Alberta didn’t really signal a long-odds regional push into Harper’s heartland. Trudeau’s main point in supporting the bid from China’s CNOOC for Calgary’s Nexen—and for talking up the resource sector more broadly—was to signal a pro-investment, pro-trade economic bent. “Why is the CNOOC-Nexen deal good for Canada? Because Chinese and other foreign investors will create middle-class Canadian jobs,” he wrote in that Nov. 19 op-ed. “Foreign investment raises productivity, and hence the living standards of Canadian families.”




Steelworkers Pursue Court Challenge of RBC Temporary Worker Plan



This thread would be better suited now to be in the National News Section, and the title needs to be changed to "Temporary Foreign Worker's Program has failed Canadian Workers".

Where is Jason Kenney? Why is Harper's heir apparent hiding from all this?

And of course here come the Liberals. Not a peep from them during this whole sordid mess before the TFW program blew up in the media recently over RBC. And by-the-way everyone, pull your financial dealings away from the RBC and use a locally-based credit union.

And what does the corporate media mean by "at risk" as if there is any quesyion this is a massive rip-off of Canadian workers, let alone the foreign workers?

Foreign worker program at risk of running amok


* HD Mining International is in court defending its 2012 decision to hire 201 miners from China to do specialized “long wall” coal mining.

The International Union of Operating Engineers, Local 115, and the Construction and Specialized Workers Union, Local 116, claim the Tumbler Ridge jobs should have gone to some of the 300 Canadians who applied for the work.

The company notes it received a go-ahead from Ottawa for its hires, by way of a “labour market opinion” confirming a skills shortage. The company warns that Canada risks a black eye internationally by thwarting its business endeavour.

* RBC confirmed this week it’s in the process of contracting workers from India — through a California-based outsourcing company called iGate Corp. — for 45 IT-related jobs in Toronto. Again, the bank had received government sanction.

Such outsourcing is a common corporate practice as companies seek ways to lower labour costs.

As unions and affected employees come forward, many are wondering whether the foreign workers program, which serves a legitimate purpose and mirrors similar initiatives in Europe and the U.S., has run amok through a lack of government policing.

They’re questioning whether Ottawa has too freely issued compliant labour market opinions. And why companies aren’t either training locals for the jobs on offer or offering better wages to attract homegrown workers. After all, Canada’s jobless rate stands at 7.2 per cent.

There’s also concern about the government’s expansion of the program.

In 2002, Conservatives began fast-tracking the program for “regional occupations under pressure.” Then last year, they started allowing employers to pay foreign workers 15 per cent less than Canadian workers.

At one time, the program was geared to finding labour for arduous jobs Canadians often wouldn’t perform, in tobacco fields and orchards, or positions so highly specialized that skilled Canadians weren’t available.

But now foreign workers are coming to Canada to work in fast-food outlets, flipping burgers and pouring coffee.

Indeed, the number of temporary foreign workers admitted to Canada has doubled in the past decade, to nearly 340,000. That’s more people than live in the City of Victoria.

“They’re being used in every sector of the economy now because employers are figuring out, boy, it’s really fast and really cheap,” B.C. Federation of Labour president Jim Sinclair told reporters this week. “And that’s wrong.”

The federal Human Resources Department website declares: “Employing temporary foreign workers can be an essential part of a company’s business strategy.”

Canadians might be inclined to believe that employing domestic workers can be an essential part of the country’s well-being.

Already feeling economically vulnerable, voters will view the lax application of program rules as a failure by their government to protect their interests.

And in politics, there are few worse sins.







Jason Kenney’s outsourced outrage

This weekend dozens of Canadians at one of Canada’s largest banks learned firsthand the impacts of the Conservatives’ temporary foreign worker program: they’re losing their jobs.

When news of this situation broke Minister Kenney desperately tried to distance himself with artificial outrage telling the CBC Saturday "you can't displace Canadians to hire people from abroad".

He even gave advice on how to deal with employers replacing Canadians with temporary foreign workers:

“[They] should have the book thrown at them."
- Immigration Minister Jason Kenney, Canada.com, April 4, 2013

Far from having ‘the book thrown at them’, a company spokesperson stated that the Government of Canada helped them navigate ‘the book’ in support of this action:

"We’ve already been in conversation with government departments last week as this came forward and we are working with them"
– Zabeen Hirji, Chief Human Resources Officer for RBC, CBC Newsworld, April 7, 2913

In fact Conservative policies are exacerbating Canada’s unemployment troubles and accelerating the export of Canadian jobs. Minister Kenney’s fabricated denunciation is all part of the Conservative policy playbook: make public policy, hide it from Canadians and publicly deny its existence when things go wrong.

While Conservatives engineer policies that promote the loss and export of Canadian jobs, New Democrats will always fight to protect hard working Canadians.

Canadians deserve better.

Diane Finley’s broken record

The revelation that one of Canada’s largest banks used the temporary foreign workers program to replace Canadian employees has shocked many. But for Human Resources and Skills Development Minister Diane Finley it’s just another opportunity for her to utter feigned indignation.

“If true, this situation is unacceptable,” said the Minister, in no uncertain terms.

Seasoned observers will note that the use of the term ‘unacceptable’ by Minister Finley is not new. When it was found that a British Columbia mining company had included foreign language requirements in order to hire foreign workers instead of Canadians, the minister stated in the House that these requirements were “unacceptable.” The same harsh words, the same lack of concrete action.



Former outsourcer describes how job destruction works:

An insider explains how Canada’s big banks contract out good jobs to make even more money.

A highly trained, university-educated professional, Arlene has been at the centre of the action. She is frustrated by the media coverage of the RBC affair. She says those who focus on Ottawa’s foreign temporary worker program miss the point.

The big banks she has worked for under contract don’t bring in temporary foreign workers to take Canadian jobs. Rather they send those jobs abroad through what they call “preferred vendors,” such as the India-based outsourcing firm iGate.

True, these preferred vendors may temporarily import foreign managers to organize the job drain. But typically, such managers do not stay long.

More to the point, the lower-paid foreigners who will eventually do the actual work rarely, if ever, set foot in Canada.

Arlene says any outsourcing scheme begins with the institution’s senior management. Usually, she says, the aim is to transfer about 60 per cent of the affected jobs — often in back-shop areas like information technology — to India where wages are a fraction of those paid in Canada.

The remaining 40 per cent, which generally require more local support, are outsourced to third-party firms in Canada. They in turn, subcontract the jobs to individual Canadians.

The aim here, Arlene says, is to not only to save the bank money but ensure that it is legally insulated from those who work for it.

Technically, those Canadians doing outsourced work are viewed as self-employed. That means that the bank no longer has to pay statutory benefits such as Canada Pension Plan premiums.

In most cases, subcontracts with Canadian workers are renewed for up to two years. Then, in order to maintain the fiction that they are not real bank employees, they are let go. After a few weeks, they are rehired on another set of short-term contracts.

“It’s sad,” says Arlene. “Really and truly sad. If you’re on contract you have no security. You do exactly what you’re told or you’re gone. You look the wrong way at someone and you’re gone. If you even question someone, you’re gone.”

Foreign outsourcing works slightly differently.

In this case, the financial institution will hire not only someone like Arlene but a foreign preferred vendor like iGate. “We work side by side in the bank,” she says.

Her job might involve bundling the tasks to be outsourced. Her foreign counterpart then arranges with his home office in, say, India to have its low-wage employees do the tasks.

The foreign outsourcer might use Canadians from its Toronto office to manage what corporations euphemistically call “the transition.” Or it might bring in employees from abroad under one of several visa arrangements permitted by Ottawa.

Typically, any foreigners brought in are tasked not with doing the work being outsourced but with learning how to train others who are already abroad to do that work.

In that sense, they are not replacing qualified Canadian workers. They are merely executing a job-killing decision already made by the bank.

The corporate world has invented various phrases to describe this drive to cheap labour. Some versions are referred to as “organizational redevelopment.” Others are called “process reengineering.”

In most cases, employees about to be fired are compelled to explain how their jobs work so that cheaper workers can take over. Arlene recalls one instance where senior directors broke down in tears as they spelled out how best they could be replaced.

“One was a single mother,” she recalls. “Another had two kids . . . usually they get rid of the directors first before outsourcing the entire unit.”

Typically, she says, employees are instructed to explain their work processes before they receive their pink slips. This causes less fuss.

In the Royal Bank case, information technology professionals were given notice before being required to detail their jobs to RBC’s Indian partner. That led some to complain publicly.

“Perhaps bad planning,” says Arlene.

The former outsourcer says she now thinks outsourcing is monstrous. She says she left the field because she couldn’t bear it any more. She says she has seen too much damage up close.

She says outsourcing, either domestically or abroad, is destroying the dreams of young Canadians. She has a child of her own. She wants government to crack down on companies that, just to make a buck, deliberately kill good jobs. Her words spill out.

“This isn’t my Canada,” she says. “It’s not fair. It’s like that television show Survivor.”





McDonald's foreign workers call it slavery

Foreign workers recruited from Belize are accusing McDonald’s Canada of treating them like "slaves," by effectively forcing them to share an expensive apartment – then deducting almost half their take-home pay as rent.

“When we arrived at the airport, they said, ‘We already have an apartment for you,’ so at that point we already know we don’t have a choice of where to live,” said Jaime Montero, who came to Edmonton with four others in September to work at McDonald’s.

As usual, the NDP response comes up short.  It's as if upon having smoke pointed out to them, checking for fire is never a concern.  If McDonald's is doing this, then the entire TFW program and the corporations that benefit from it should be the subject of scrutiny.  All this says is 'look at us, we're opposing see!"  There's no concern at all being expressed regarding the widespread practices that have been going on for years, so long as they get to check their own box and present it as opposiiton.

NDP employment critic Jinny Sims said in light of all the recent Go Public reports about McDonald’s practices, the government should suspend all pending foreign work permits for its restaurants.


The rich and powerful are in every society.

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Why am I not surprised?

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HD Mining still going strong with only Chinese workers in Tumbler Ridge. WTF!!!