The Official Couillard Liberals Scandal/Outrage Thread

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Quebec Liberals quietly propose giving themselves a $50,000 pay raise

Guess their belts are feeling a bit tight around the holidays.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Fucking sickening. I don't understand why this doesn't provoke a revolt in the streets. Seriously it's obscene which is an  understatement to say the least. Jaw droppingly offensive.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

They couldn't have settled for $10,000 in base pay and $40,000 in bribes and kickbacks??

Just approve that new condo development FFS.

onthelake

Totally disconnected! 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Even after being given a significant increase in transfer payments by the Canadian government the cuts keep coming.

It's clear that it isn't about 'balanced budgets' or 'deficits' It's about punishing the poor.

Why nobody is burning down Couillard's home is amazing.

lagatta

Yes, it is bloody weird. It isn't as if there are tonnes of businesses lining up to hire poor people... sad to say.

For those hardcore cons "makework" and "job creation" are bad words, unless they mean work for their copains. And yet, workplace experience and non-punitive training programmes would be so much more effective. So would enough basic income that people can actually dress themselves, feed themselves and otherwise be presentable to actually find work, if there is any work.

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Quebec cabinet shuffle reflects momentum from Trudeau’s gender parity commitment: Hébert

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Couillard’s team never suffered much from the comparisons with Harper’s cabinet. It featured few women and was plagued by a chronic dearth of Quebec talent. The bar was set low.

But once Trudeau presented the country with a gender-equal team, Couillard’s cabinet — dominated as it was by men in suits — looked out of step with the times.

And so on Thursday, Couillard brought more women to the table. From less than a third, they now make up 40 per cent of the Quebec cabinet. He also raised their profile by handing one of them a frontline economic portfolio and reaching outside the ranks of the baby boomers to do so.

Between now and the 2018 provincial election it will be Dominique Anglade’s mission — as minister of the economy, science and innovation — to turn a less than stellar Liberal record on the front of investments and jobs into a work in progress worth showing to voters.

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http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/01/30/quebec-cabinet-shuffle-ref...

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

This looks like exactly the same story as was recently posted in another thread by someone with a very similar handle to yours, so I'll say exactly the same thing.

What's the French word(s) for "focus group"?

monty1

Mr. Magoo wrote:

This looks like exactly the same story as was recently posted in another thread by someone with a very similar handle to yours, so I'll say exactly the same thing.

What's the French word(s) for "focus group"?

groupe de discussion

Debater

Mr. Magoo, I wasn't sure what thread I should post Chantal Hébert's column on the Quebec cabinet in, so I thought I'd add it to this thread.

Hébert's point is that it took until the mid-point of Couillard's mandate for him (& Quebec's political analysts) to realize that there should be a higher number of women in the Quebec cabinet.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Hébert's point is that it took until the mid-point of Couillard's mandate for him (& Quebec's political analysts) to realize that there should be a higher number of women in the Quebec cabinet.

Ah, of course.

That reminds me of the possibly apocryphal story of some-or-other U.S. President losing his wig when someone informed him that fully half of the population of the United States was of below average intelligence.

Who says you'll never use math after highschool?

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lagatta

Yes, he really is a rightwing piece of shit.

cco
Unionist

Breaking news (which might overshadow Couillard's budget day):

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/upac-arrest-nathalie-normandeau-1... Normandeau, ex-Quebec deputy premier, arrested by UPAC[/url]

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Marc-Yvan Côté, a former Liberal cabinet minister, and Bruno Lortie, Normandeau's former chief of staff, were also arrested.

UPAC has called a news conference for 11 a.m., saying this morning's arrests are related to illegal campaign financing.

lagatta

I see we posted on the same breaking news here. I'm fine if my comment can be integrated into your thread.

Ooo boy, on Budget Day. Lá fhéile Pádraig sona dhaoibh!

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I wonder who's going to get fucked hardest today. My guess is the usual suspects..The poor,the elderly and the sick.

And people thought Charest was bad. Those were better days in this province. Sad but true.

Anyway,here's what the MSM reported with all the Liberal approved details.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-budget-2016-balanced-slight-increase-f...

cco

Health Minister Gaétan Barrette not budging on MUHC's seasonal bed cuts

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Barrette's comments come a day after it was revealed that the MUHC would have to cut dozens of beds in the summer and holiday periods – more than a quarter of the year – in order to meet the budget imposed on it by the Health Ministry.

Some surgeons predict the 14 weeks of "seasonal bed closures" could double wait times for cancer surgery and cause even longer delays for non-urgent surgeries.

So the place has barely been opened, was the subject of all kinds of scandal during its construction, couldn't keep sewage from backing up once it had opened, and now will have to close beds to meet new austerity targets.

lagatta

I believe it is pronounced "Muck" in English.

I wonder if they finally made the nearby métro station disabled-accessible? Believe it or not, it wasn't.

We must never forget that the superhospitals are ALSO a huge real estate speculation game.

Unionist

lagatta wrote:

I believe it is pronounced "Muck" in English.

Despite all the corruption etc., it's actually quite an amazing facility (in my opinion and from friends that have used it). If it weren't for cost-slashing neoliberals and crooks of all stripes, it would have great promise. Let's work for that.

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I wonder if they finally made the nearby métro station disabled-accessible? Believe it or not, it wasn't.

Does this answer your question?

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If you’re in a wheelchair at the Vendôme métro station and want to get to the superhospital next door, for the next four years you’ll have to travel for about a half-hour or more — by bus — to get there.

You would have to head two stops east on the Orange Line to the Lionel-Groulx station. From there, you could take an elevator to street level and wait for a bus that comes twice an hour, and takes 15 minutes — without traffic — to get to the front door of the hospital in Notre-Dame-de-Grâce.

The Glen site was originally conceived to be universally accessible by public transit, one of the main reasons the location was chosen. A wheelchair-accessible tunnel connecting the Vendôme station to the future hospital was first proposed in 2002.

Quebec Transport Minister Robert Poëti announced Friday the tunnel will be built by 2019 linking the Vendôme métros and trains to the new hospital. The province will pick up the $76.5 million tab.

Seventeen years... it's over before you know it!

Debater

Sondage: le PLQ perd de son avance

Le Parti québécois et la Coalition avenir Québec profitent de la baisse des appuis aux troupes de Couillard

Jeudi, 24 mars 2016

L'arrestation de l'ex-ministre Nathalie Normandeau et les carences du budget Leitao pour relancer l'économie réduisent l'avance des libéraux de Philippe Couillard.

En position de tête depuis des mois, le Parti libéral du Québec perd des plumes et se retrouve à 33 % dans les intentions de vote, révèle un sondage Léger/Le Journal-Le Devoir.

Cette légère baisse profite à la fois aux péquistes et aux caquistes. Les troupes de Pierre Karl Péladeau gagnent un point par rapport au mois dernier (30 %), tout comme la Coalition avenir Québec, qui gonfle ses appuis à 22 %. Québec solidaire reste stable à 10 %.

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http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/03/23/les-liberaux-perdent-de-lavance

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Papergate: How a crumpled sheet of paper became ‘assault with a weapon’

This past Thursday night, as Montrealers gathered in the Gay Village to honour the victims of the Orlando massacre, I was around the corner at the Bell Media studios hosting a talk radio show.

It wasn’t until I got home hours later that I checked my Twitter feed and noticed that #Couillard was trending. Curious, I followed the internet trail and realized I had managed to miss the news of the night. Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard, invited to attend and speak at the vigil, had been attacked by Esteban Torres, a 20-year-old transgender rights activist, who moments before had also spoken at the event.

The premier’s security detail quickly rushed Torres and police officers violently escorted him away. The next day he appeared in court, where he was charged with assault with a weapon and causing a disturbance. He pleaded not guilty and was released on bail, with 19 conditions including that he stay away from Premier Couillard, refrain from taking part in any activist activity, and undergo a medical evaluation to ensure he’s not a danger to himself or others.

The “weapon” he “assaulted” the premier with? A wad of paper. A crumpled piece of paper....

Unionist

Never thought I'd write these words... but Couillard did nothing wrong here. And it's not up to him as to whether criminal charges are laid or not. And no, he doesn't have to express his viewpoint on that issue either.

I admire Esteban Torres (for his activism, his testimony at the National Assembly, his courage), and I feel sorry for him, but I have a real problem with Ricochet making this a big issue. Torres did a foolish thing for reasons that we don't understand. Its only consequence was to distract attention away from a very important vigil, and to make himself the issue - besides (of course) supplying the bad guys with a few more excuses to beef up security, maybe put more limits on the right to demonstrate, etc. Torres got into this mess, he can get himself out. People should figure out how to join the movement - not how the movement should join them.

Sorry to be harsh.

 

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..what i got from the artical it isn't ricochet making a big deal about it but the main stream media.

 

Unionist

epaulo13 wrote:

..what i got from the artical it isn't ricochet making a big deal about it but the main stream media.

I understand and agree about the MSM going crazy with this. But the right response is just to ignore it, let it go away. It's not important. It's diversionary. Instead:

Ricochet wrote:
One should not go to jail for throwing a piece of paper at a politician. It’s ludicrous. And calling it an “aggression” and “armed assault” diminishes the weight of those words.

Who's going to jail? It's over the top. Plus it took a fair bit of time before there was a consensus among witnesses that it was a piece of paper. People were upset and disturbed. I don't know why this Ricochet author wants to put herself on the side of minimizing this incident, while at the same time continuing the diversion.

It's like Elbowgate. The sooner the NDP stopped talking about it, the better. It was nothing - except an excuse for misogynist and right-wing fanatics to go apeshit on social media. Absolutely nothing was to be gained by "defending REB" and all the rest of it. The same is true here.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

..i was certainly glad to finally see the end to elbowgate after all the time and energy spent on it. i hope this does not turn into that. i'll be watching to see the out come of this matter and hope the legal system sees it as nothing much going on here.

Unionist

Word!

cco

Privatization in disguise: Couillard's selling off the Mount Royal Tunnel and Deux-Montagnes line to Caisse

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Nathalie Normandeau says MNAs boycotting radio show 'irresponsible'

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Normandeau said the decision was '"very disappointing" and "irresponsible"

"Why? Because they have violated a principle, a fundamental right of our democracy and justice system – that of the presumption of innocence," she said.

You'd think this wouldn't need explaining to a former deputy premier, but the presumption of innocence actually only applies in the context of the criminal justice system. There's no concomitant right for the general public to think you're innocent, and there's certainly no right to have other politicians appear on your radio show while you're awaiting trial.

Unionist

cco wrote:
Nathalie Normandeau says MNAs boycotting radio show 'irresponsible'
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Normandeau said the decision was '"very disappointing" and "irresponsible"

"Why? Because they have violated a principle, a fundamental right of our democracy and justice system – that of the presumption of innocence," she said.

You'd think this wouldn't need explaining to a former deputy premier, but the presumption of innocence actually only applies in the context of the criminal justice system. There's no concomitant right for the general public to think you're innocent, and there's certainly no right to have other politicians appear on your radio show while you're awaiting trial.

Exactly. Especially when she really really doesn't look all that innocent!*

*To Mme Normandeau's lawyers: Of course I'm speaking in the purely non-criminal sense here.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

Whoops.  Misunderstood.

 

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lagatta

In other words, still more presents to the better-off, when so many social and environmental needs go begging. They still haven't extended the blue line, which was supposed to be done, what, thirty years ago? Not to mention social housing needs.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

It's very strange that there are MANY social housing units sitting vacant. Or maybe not. All building constructions in Montréal are condos. They keep pushing the poor further and further to the extreme West and East. Soon,these people will have no place to go but the river. Not that Couillard could give a shit. Neither does the PQ.

cco

lagatta wrote:

They still haven't extended the blue line, which was supposed to be done, what, thirty years ago? Not to mention social housing needs.

Why would they bother? Clearly, just as at the municipal level, merely announcing the same extension every four years does the trick of getting them reëlected.

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lagatta

There are huge waiting lists for social housing units. I don't know of many sitting vacant except for ones that have had to undergo extensive renovations. It is important to keep a few vacant if possible to deal with emergency situations.

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Quebec Liberal MNA Gerry Sklavounos leaves caucus after ‘violent’ sexual assault allegations

http://globalnews.ca/news/3016826/quebec-liberal-mna-gerry-sklavounos-re...

cco

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Gerry Sklavounos, the MNA who left the Liberal caucus last week after being accused of sexual assault, has taken medical leave from the National Assembly.

He won't step down and allow a by-election, nor will he show up to work and embarrass the Liberals. He'll just continue collecting his salary, presumably until such time as the police decide whether or not to charge him -- though I wouldn't put it past him to refuse to resign even then.

lagatta

I wouldn't suprise until he just stayed on "sick leave" and collected his MNA's pay until such time if and when he is forced to step down.

By the way, Andrés Fontecilla of Québec Solidaire came second in Laurier-Dorion in the last Québec elections: hmm, wonder what could happen in a by-election. He led in Villeray, but Parc-Ex is a tough nut to crack. 

I think the sexual violence issue and anti-sexual violence issue deserves its own thread, and am wondering how to organise it. Perhaps I should look back at the earlier ones on rapednotreported and the Ghomeshi affair.

Martin N.

Is Quebec's problem a lack of financial resources or is it more to do with the misuse of existing financial resources?

lagatta

So explosive I'm wondering if, like the Sklavounos sexual assault and abuse allegations, these two stories should get their own thread or threads.

Quebec Liberal Party fundraisers pocketed huge payments in government real estate deals

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/real-estate-quebec-fava-rondeau-f...

This is a straight translation from the Radio-Canada original

Possibly a record in Québec or even Canada

And six journalists (at least) under Mtl and Quebec provincial police surveillance, including the three leading lights of Radio-Canada investigative reporting show Enquête: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-journalists-police-spying-...

Not quite the same as the Sklavounos allegations, but linked by a culture of entitlement and impunity.

Unfortunately this also means less media coverage in the short term of the sexual assault and abuse scandals, and the movement against them.

and

cco

Question Period in the National Assembly today was pretty hilarious. "The police are independent, and by asking us about this scandal, the PQ is showing how much it's opposed to that principle of a free society and wants political interference in policing."

bekayne

lagatta wrote:

And six journalists (at least) under Mtl and Quebec provincial police surveillance, including the three leading lights of Radio-Canada investigative reporting show Enquête: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-journalists-police-spying-...

PQ was in power when this happened.

 

lagatta

So? I don't think the Liberals had a monopoly over the political culture I was referring to. I'm not a Péquiste.

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