Quebec education minister says strip searches at high schools are just fine

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Quebec education minister says strip searches at high schools are just fine

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/teen-strip-search-allowed-in-high... strip search allowed in high schools, says Yves Bolduc[/url]

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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The board said school officials have a responsibility to ensure a safe and healthy environment.

Fair enough, but then there should be an onus on the school to do the very least necessary to ensure this.  In the case of a student suspected of having a baggie of weed on them removing them temporarily while police are called would certainly ensure this safe and healthy environment, wouldn't it?

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That's something that's certainly never been done at our board. If we had suspicions about drugs we would call police.

That certainly seems like a more reasonable policy.

If the principal were to have found a bomb in a student's locker, would she try to disarm it herself?

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

This makes me very happy I never had kids.

If the law won't protect my children,I'd take it upon myself to see some knee caps being broken.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

I also found it odd, and inappropriate, that the student in question was not allowed to contact a parent in a situation like this.  What on earth could be the reasonable excuse for that?

Had this student known her request would be denied, I'd say she should have pleaded "Please, PLEASE don't tell my Mom!!", which would almost certainly have resulted in the Principal making the call for her.

swallow swallow's picture

It's an outrageous policy, and to see the minister of eduction defending it is deeply depressing. But then, I suppose almost everything about the Couillard government is deeply depressing. 

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

If you want a laugh, look up couille in your French dictionary

lagatta

There have been many variations on couille, couillionner etc in the demos here.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I knew the man was a dick

Caissa

I hope the student and family sue.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Caissa wrote:

I hope the student and family sue.

They can't sue. As it stands,for the time being,it was totally legal.

Caissa

The students rights may have been violated, most especially when she was denied the right to contact her parents.  I'm not sure the courts would believe that the student's rights were respected.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Caissa wrote:

The students rights may have been violated, most especially when she was denied the right to contact her parents.  I'm not sure the courts would believe that the student's rights were respected.

Well according to the government it's legal. Today Couillard said that they should review the rules but until then strip searching kids is legal.

Personally,I disagree but that and a buck and quarter will get me a coffee.

BTW,here's the link

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/premier-says-there-is-no-question-of-strip-se...

Caissa

The courts will ultimately decide if the Government's legal opinion is correct or not.

Bacchus
MegB

alan smithee wrote:

Caissa wrote:

I hope the student and family sue.

They can't sue. As it stands,for the time being,it was totally legal.

Actually the policy is a gross misrepresentation of an SCC decision - there is no law in Canada that permits the strip search of a student by school administrators. The whole incident smacks of vindictiveness and a need to humiliate. Hello, Charter violation.

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NorthReport

Let's not jump the gun here quite yet.

The student no longer attends the school in question - why is that?

montrealer58 montrealer58's picture

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Unionist

This is just bizarre and offensive:

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/strip-searched-girl-can-t-return-... girl can't return to her school, Quebec judge rules[/url]

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The board’s lawyer told the court the school had "serious reasons for expelling the student" that the media could not report on for the moment.

The board had earlier offered to place the girl in another school that specialized in helping troubled young people.

WTF? What about "troubled" cabinet ministers?

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The family's lawyer said he will file a lawsuit alleging the province misinterpreted a 1998 Supreme Court decision involving the drug search of a student in Nova Scotia when it formulated its search policy.

In response to the controversy, Premier Philippe Couillard said there would be no more strip searches in schools, except in extreme cases where police deem it necessary.​

This story is not over yet.

 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

This story makes me look back at my high school days.

We got away with MURDER compared to today. Believe me,we were no angels.And I can assure you that strip searches were never in the curriculum.

Denying a teenager an education is on par with shooting them in the head.They'll be doomed to a marginal life at best.

I hope the parents of this student SUE the school board for everything its worth.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

I suppose that if this student really DID have a fairly lengthy history of dealing drugs at her school, then the school pretty much has to do something.

At the same time, their now-infamous strip search of her apparently produced NOTHING.

So... if that strip search turned up sweet fuck all, why remove her from the school?

And if there was other evidence that she was dealing, then why the strip search?  Why not just remove her on the basis of whatever evidence they already had?

It's like saying "we searched the suspect's house for bombs, and didn't find any, but we have other solid evidence that he had bombs, so we'll just charge him with that".  Wait... what?

Unionist

Mr. Magoo wrote:

I suppose that if this student really DID have a fairly lengthy history of dealing drugs at her school, then the school pretty much has to do something.

Yeah, it's called, call the fucking police.

In the meantime, it's heartening to see that Quebecers were so outraged by this child abuse, and its sordid defence by the minister, that the minister was fired. That's how we treat scumbags here. This was the same minister, by the way, who cheated the health care system to the tune of $215,000 in premiums for patients that he was no longer following. If anyone should be stripped and searched... well, I'll just leave you with that thought.