Student strike - lockout and repression #8

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NDPP

Quebec's Anti-Protest Legislation Tramples Basic Rights: Legal Experts

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/quebecs-anti-protest-legisl...

"This bill, if adopted, is a breach to the fundamental, constitutional rights of the citizens,' the bar association president, batonnier Louise Masson, said in a statement. 'The government is making it harder for people to organize spontaneous demonstrations. This is a limit on freedom of speech,' Mr Masson said.

'Read it. Stunned. Can't believe that a democratic government can adopt such a law,' tweeted law professor Louis Philippe Lampron, a Laval University expert in human rights..."

bouchecl

Catchfire wrote:

Petition: www.loi78.com

This is NOT a petition. This is part of FECQ application to declare Bill 78 null and void and this page is used to recruit applicants for the lawsuit.  So, if you don't have a standing before a Quebec court, please don't add your name there.

Unionist

Thanks, bouchecl, you beat me to the punch - I wanted to say the same thing. In fact, it looks as if that page is still being modified. Yesterday, there were dead links to Juripop and less information on it - it didn't even mention FECQ originally. Everyone's acting fast these days, and I don't blame them.

 

Unionist

Amir Khadir calls for [url=http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2012/05/18/005-kadhir-loi... discussion on peaceful civil disobedience[/url] to Bill 78. My translations follow:

Amir Khadir wrote:
We call upon all social partners, popular groups, civil society groups, the Québec Bar Association, intellectuals, engaged artists, environmentalists, and trade unions to reflect together about the possibility of disobeying this law in a peaceful manner.

Please read the whole article.

Of particular interest: Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, CLASSE co-spokesperson and Most Hated Person of Jean Charest's government, is facing contempt of court charges for having made the following totally innocent remarks on RDI (French equivalent of CBC News Network - only difference is that it's actually worth watching) on May 13:

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois wrote:

Je crois qu'il est tout à fait légitime pour les étudiants et les étudiantes de prendre les moyens qui s'imposent pour faire respecter le choix démocratique qui a été fait d'aller en grève. C'est tout à fait regrettable qu'il y ait une minorité d'étudiants et d'étudiantes qui utilisent les tribunaux pour contourner la décision collective qui a été prise. Donc, je trouve cela tout à fait légitime que les gens prennent les moyens nécessaires pour faire respecter le vote de grève et si ça prend des lignes de piquetage, on croit que c'est un moyen tout à fait légitime de le faire.

Amir Khadir adopts these comments as his own and calls on other MNAs and ordinary citizens to do likewise - thus creating a "moral safety zone" to protect Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois!

If you want to know why Amir Khadir is my hero, you need look no further than this.

ETA: Here's my translation of Gabriel's comments, just so you can see how far fascism is going in Québec in the past few days:

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois wrote:
I believe that it is completely legitimate for the students to use the necessary means to ensure that the democratic choice of going on strike is respected. It is totally regrettable that a minority of students are using the courts to overturn that collective decision. Thus, I consider it entirely legitimate that people use the necessary means to ensure that the strike vote is respected, and if it takes picket lines, then we think that's a completely legitimate means.

Bärlüer

The Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse (how apt at this juncture that the two are brought together...) has published a press release about Bill 78.

They don't go in much detail as they intend to do a full analysis of the bill, but they do mention that it raises "serious concerns" with respect to fundamental rights and freedoms. They also invite the legislature to act with caution and to assume its responsibilities in a way that respects the fundamental rights and freedoms.

NDPP

Bravo! Even I might consider voting for a politician like this..

may this contagion go forth and prosper...

lagatta

Woohoo! 40 years ago Bourassa was "Boubou" when the Libs jailed the three labour confederation presidents and many more trade unionists after they defied such a law and continued the general strike in favour of the Common Front struggle.

Unionist

By making some cosmetic changes (raising the 10-person limit to 50, getting rid of some of the reverse onus, allowing people to choose the location of the demo (though not the route), and removing some of the most obscene aspects of section 29), the Charest government has predictably purchased the support of CAQ.

Which reminds me... eternal shame on the cowardly traitor François Rebello, one-time president of the university students' federation (FEUQ), who left the PQ for CAQ and now I would imagine is enjoying the good life with dollar bills stuffed up his ass. He votes for this bill. May his betrayal haunt him forever.

ETA: Guess I should mention that the evil law has now been adopted. 

 

cco

It's passed. 68-48. I don't even know what to say.

NDPP

Quebec Emergency Law An Attack on Freedom of Assembly and Expression, Say Critics  -  by Tim McSorley

http://montreal.mediacoop.ca/story/quebec-emergency-law-attack-freedom-a...

"...If we are no longer able to protest in our socieity, it becomes a totalitarian society,' said Louis Roy, head of the Confederation des Syndicats Nationeux (CSN) which represents most university and college teachers in the province. "We are telling our members to defend their fundamental right, the right to demonstrate', he added.

When asked whether wearing a red square in class would violate the law, Education Minister Michelle Courchesne said that would be up to the courts to decide. Should the government not change route and negotiate with student leaders, all signs point to a continued strike and a very large demonstration on May 22."

Unionist

Three ministers are now talking to the media (I'm watching RDI). Fournier just condemned Khadir for the statement he made, and even said that it shows the need for this law. What kind of nazis are these?

the law will come into effect shortly. The media asked, does that mean that the nightly march today will be illegal unless they give eight hours' notice to the cops? They were visibly sweating, but they said yes. We shall see how far these cowards will go.

 

NDPP

Special Quebec Education Law Passes 68-48 (and vid)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/18/quebec-student-p...

"Student leaders call legislation 'declaration of war'.."

bouchecl

Unionist wrote:

FECQ and FEUQ are about to speak to the media.

Lawyers working with the students will file a court action Tuesday to have the law annulled.

Regardng the lawsuit, the www.loi78.com website still collects claimants names (you MUST be a Quebec citizen to be part of the lawsuit). If you want to help, there is also a Paypal button at the bottom of the page, so you can put some coin to help Juripop, the legal non-profit helping coordinating the lawsuit for FECQ. 

Unionist

FECQ and FEUQ are about to speak to the media.

Lawyers working with the students will file a court action Tuesday to have the law annulled.

In reply to questions, both say they will counsel their members to respect the law, as they did with injunctions. But they emphasized they will work in unity with CLASSE, even if some positions may differ.

Now Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois is speaking - he says CLASSE will fight this law in the courts and in the streets, by expanding the mobilization manifold.

He says the law is functioning already, by preventing me from saying what I and my members think!

Jesus Christ it makes you sick.

 

Unionist

Montréal police bosses are meeting now to try to figure out how the hell to apply this law, which just received royal assent moments ago.

Meanwhile, apparently police stations across the city are receiving all kinds of calls advising them of itineraries of demonstrations!!!

ROFLMAO!!!

 

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

Unionist wrote:
Meanwhile, apparently police stations across the city are receiving all kinds of calls advising them of itineraries of demonstrations!!!
  Laughing

 

What if they gave a demonstration and no one came?

Unionist

Have we just identified a hole in the law? Naw, they'd probably just charge people with mischief, obstruction, terrorism, whatever. When the 1% are in charge, anything goes.

 

NDPP

From the Chilean Winter to the Maple Spring - by Andrew Gavin Marshall

http://www.mediacoop.ca/story/chilean-winter-maple-spring/10945

"...So from the Chilean Winter to the Maple Spring: Solidarity, Solidarite, Solidaridad!"

Catchfire Catchfire's picture

Thanks to the correction from boouchecl and Unionist above. My apologies for hastily posting incorrect information!

Unionist

SORRY! Just got back! Biggest demo tonight in Montréal for quite a while - estimated at 10,000. It was entirely peaceful. Then at 21:54, cops declared it "illegal" - as usual, nothing new there. They claim there was one Molotov cocktail thrown. And there has been one (that's right, 1) arrest. And the "illegal" march carries on!!

Yes!

[url=http://www.livestream.com/cutvmontreal]You can watch it live here.[/url]

And lots of masks, despite the municipal anti-mask bylaw adopted today. People say they don't give a damn about the law, they will carry on.

Demo in Québec tonight as well, haven't seen news.

Ce n'est qu'un début - continuous le combat!

ETA: [url=http://www.cjad.com/CJADLocalNews/entry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10385019]CJAD report:[/url]

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The nighttime protests have been going on every night for nearly a month.

But some participants said this was their first one.

Milly Pominville, a 20-year-old junior college student, acknowledged she was nervous attending the protest after the passage of the special law.

"I don't want anything bad to happen,'' she said.

"But I hate Jean Charest so much. He has to go.''

 

Unionist

LOL - the cops have given up trying to enforce their own "illegal" declaration. This demo is now "illegal" in about 25 different ways. Here's a random tweet from a couple minutes ago:

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La spvm viens juste de dire que la manifestation peut continuer si elle reste pacifique ..merci les oinks

Translation: "The Montréal police have just said that the demo can continue if it remains peaceful .. thank you, oinks!"

Bärlüer

Marched for a little while in tonight's demo too. Huge crowd. 10 000 sounds entirely plausible to me—perhaps more at its peak. I decided to bail when teargas was used—nasty stuff. Things apparently got calmer after that, though.

The clear favorite of all the slogans: "La loi spé-ciale; on s'en câ-lisse!"

The fight continues.

Unionist

Demo in Sherbrooke is apparently dispersing now after repeated charges by the riot squad, although it was reportedly peaceful. Does anyone have any more reliable info about what happened?

Good slogan, B. - is that what they call civil disobedience?

And can Amir Khadir be charged under Bill 78 for repeating what Gabriel N-D said (I quoted it earlier)?

 

Bärlüer

GND's situation is an order to appear in court for a charge of contempt of court related to an injunction. Since the injunctions are now without force due to Bill 78, there can be no charge similar to the situation of GND.

Potential violations of Bill 78 (the now famous section 29) would be another story.

CUTV said a little while ago in their livestream that they've received information that an anonymous collective of student spokepersons have called for civil disobedience in relation to Bill 78.

Bärlüer

Somebody on CUTV also said that two small molotov cocktails were thrown after the police charged the crowd.

ETA: this is a while ago, probably at René-Lévesque/St-Laurent, around the time I decided to bail.

Sven Sven's picture

Unionist wrote:

ROFLMAO!!!

No shit. It just underscores the massive overreach on the scope of this new legislation. 

I may not agree with the students' complaint about paying just $3,800 a year for tuition, but I strongly support their right to protest and oppose the proposed tuition hike.  I guess that's what happens when one has a "free speech fetish" (I don't just believe in speech that I agree with)...

ETA: Rabble has been a good source of info regarding this student action (there's virtually no mention of events in Montreal here). 

Unionist

[url=http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Police+tear+protesters+Molotov+cockt... use tear gas, smoke bombs on protestors after Molotov cocktails reportedly tossed[/url]

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Appeals for calm from various student associations and political leaders following the passage of a controversial new law in Quebec appeared to be largely heeded as several thousand people protested peacefully in Montreal Friday night.

But about two hours into the event, a series of Molotov cocktails were reportedly thrown at officers by a handful of protesters, prompting the riot squad to deploy smoke bombs, percussion bombs and CS gas against the entire crowd. [...]

"I read the law, and it doesn't make sense," said high school student Laurence Simard, 16, before the march began. "The government is just closed off to the demands of students."

Her friend, Oliver Cohen, 15, said he wasn't too concerned about possible violence, but added that "people are angry. And they have the right to be angry."

Our youth! So proud.

 

bouchecl

Unionist wrote:

And can Amir Khadir be charged under Bill 78 for repeating what Gabriel N-D said (I quoted it earlier)?

I don't believe so. Charging a (popular) sitting MNA would make him a martyr. 

Even though a lot of Quebecers find him a bit over the top sometimes, a trial featuring Amir's "speak the truth to power" style would give him a lot of airtime.

Remember Mchel Chartrand?

Bärlüer

Ha! Read on Facebook:

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LOI SPÉCIALE: Ta Loi spéciale sert à RIEN Jean Charest. au moins 5000 personnes dans les rues à Montréal ce soir. Je fais un brin de jasette avec 8 policiers de l'anti-émeute, je leur demande: Comment allez-vous faire respecter la loi spéciale? Ils haussent les épaules, regardent vers le ciel et soupirent. L'un deux se risque à me dire que ce n'est pas applicable. Puis je leur demande: Il y a plus de 50 personnes ici, et vous n'avez pas le trajet n'est-ce pas? Le policier me répond: Tout ce que je vois, c'est 5000 groupes de 1 personne.

CHAREST: Même ta Police du SPVM n'en veut pas de ta Loi Spéciale. Dans ta face!

Bärlüer

The police (SPVM) is now saying (on Twitter) that they can't apply Bill 78 tonight because they need to figure out how to apply it first...

Unionist

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Unionist

[url=http://www.2bmag.com/2012/05/xavier-dolan-cast-wear-the-red-square-at-ca... Dolan and cast wear red square at Cannes[/url]

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"I am determined to show my true colours because I am afraid of what is happening to youth in Québec, goddamnit [câlisse], with this authoritarian regime. The conflict has expanded to unbelievable proportions. It’s not the Québec I knew. I am torn between the première of my film and the fate of my generation,” Dolan lamented to journalists earlier today. [...]

In April, when interviewed on TVA morning news about Laurence Anyways being selected off competition at the prestigious festival, Dolan took the anchors off-guard by starting with a shout-out to Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, the co-spokesman for the Coalition pour un Solidarité Syndicale étudiante (La CLASSE). “I would like to say first and foremost that Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois is doing an amazing job; he’s very articulate and he has impressed me a lot; but also I find, and this is entirely unimportant, that he’s very sexy,” the out gay director chimed.

Fidel

epaulo13 wrote:
The telephone survey was conducted from May 10 to 14 with 1,014 Canadians. For the whole country, the margin of error is + / - 3.1% 19 times out of 20. The margin of error increases for Quebec. It is + / - 6.2%, due to the small sample of 248 respondents.

The survey was commissioned by the Canadian Federation of Students.

I think that the Quebec wing of the Liebranos would rather go with this other wonky internet survey that says an overwhelming majority of Quebecers(far more than voted for the Liebranos) support the Liebranos plan to raise fees. 

TheStar wrote:
In addition, 66 per cent said they were in favour of the government's emergency legislation, with 34 per cent opposed.

The Internet panel of 800 Quebecers did not have a random character, so a margin of error wasn't provided.

Fasc-o-rama!

lagatta

A new version of Ariane Moffatt's song 17 mai, opposing the special law: http://soundcloud.com/mofmof/jeudi-17-mai-2012

bouchecl

Fidel wrote:

I think that the Quebec wing of the Liebranos would rather go with this other wonky internet survey that says an overwhelming majority of Quebecers(far more than voted for the Liebranos) support the Liebranos plan to raise fees. 

TheStar wrote:
In addition, 66 per cent said they were in favour of the government's emergency legislation, with 34 per cent opposed.

The Internet panel of 800 Quebecers did not have a random character, so a margin of error wasn't provided.

Fasc-o-rama!

I'm not surprised The Star quotes this dubious survey conducted BEFORE the tabling of Bill 78. The coverage granted to that CROP poll in La Presse and the screaming headline is nothing short of journalistic malpractice and will go straight to the Press Council. Right-wing federalists are running scared.

Unionist

What about the right-wing sovereignists? Louise Harel's party voted for Tremblay's anti-demonstration bylaw. And under other circumstances, the PQ would do likewise, as they have done to workers in the past.

Bärlüer

Actually, Vision Montréal voted against the by-law in the end, as did Projet Montréal. But neither of the opposition parties can be said to truly have demonstrated any sort of political courage lately with respect to protecting fundamental freedoms. For instance, before announcing its opposition to the city by-law, Projet had put out a really bad press release, essentially castigating protesters for the "violence" in the streets of Montreal, thus troubling Richard Bergeron's quietude (he made express mention of the fact that he lived downtown...), and not saying a word about police repression.

Unionist

Ouch - thanks for the correction, Bärlüer. As I said before, things are moving too fast for me. All I remembered is that Harel really, in essence, supported this crap - but then decided at the last minute that she could vote against because the feds and provincial governments were doing a good enough job in repression:

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« On peut bien adopter tous les règlements municipaux et les empiler les uns sur les autres, mais il restera toujours la même réalité, que ce sont les dispositions des lois, soit à l'Assemblée nationale ou à la Chambre des communes, qui auront priorité », a affirmé la chef de l'opposition, Louise Harel, qui entendait initialement appuyer le projet de loi. Elle a expliqué sa volte-face par le « grand flou » de ce règlement.

I guess my real point is that notwithstanding any appearances, I don't see Bill 78 as an attack by federalists on sovereignists. It is a question of the democratic rights of the people against the elite - the 99% vs. the 1% if you like - a class question.

I'm very happy that the PQ is on board, for the moment, but I'm certain it's as much a crass political calculation as Charest and Legault were engaged in.

 

Unionist

This editorial is signed by five Le Devoir staff, including the Director and the Editor-in-Chief:

[url=http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/350475/loi-78-abus-de-pouvoir]Bill 78 - Abuse of Power[/url]

 

Slumberjack

Exceptional measures shouldn't be considered as departures from the normal routine of society, but instead as the normal routine held in abeyance while the population remains pacified.  The nonsense we keep hearing about freedom, democracy and rights is revealed as such whenever temporary suspensions of exceptional rule are lifted to reveal the state's final word when people refuse to obey authority.

Unionist

Adapting to fascist repression, with creativity and humour:

[url=http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/350539/s-adapter-a-la-loi-78-la... closes its online calendar of events; and manifswiki.net is born[/url]

You see, CLASSE has been blamed by the dictatorship in the past when it announced a demo, and someone broke a window during the demo. Now, it won't be just blame - it will be a $125,000 per day fine, plus a ban on any student union belonging to CLASSE from remitting membership dues for a whole semester - that is, one semester for every day or partial day of violations!

This Reaganite attack designed at either de-"radicalizing" or (in the alternative) financially crushing the student unions is one of the least discussed aspects of Bill 78 to date. We should open a thread to talk about the law, its features, the resistance, besides leaving a thread for news about the strike and the movement itself.

Anyway, coincidentally with the shutdown of the calendar, there is now http://manifswiki.net. Its purpose is to encourage people not to attend demonstrations which might be troublesome or where they might face congestion, etc. - so of course, it's necessary to provide the time and place so everyone knows where and when to avoid trouble...

Let me know if you need a translation!

Unionist

[url=http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Student+protests+continue+under+rule... Student protests can continue, but under new rules, Montreal police say[/url]

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In its statement issued at 4:30 p.m. Saturday, the Montreal police force (SPVM) states clearly that protesters are still permitted to take to the streets, but as always, it must be done “with respect and in an orderly fashion.”

The statement also spells out what is expected of protest organizers and participants under the new provincial law and municipal bylaw (rule P-6).

Specifically, the release states, if an organization or group is planning a demonstration involving more than 50 people, it must ensure that police are provided, no less than eight hours in advance, with the event’s date, start time, duration, location and protest route if applicable. Failure to do so can result in steep fines ranging from $1,000 all the way up to $125,000.

“In addition, the city of Montreal has modified the rule on prevention of disturbances to the peace, public security and public order … meaning that it is now forbidden to participate in a demonstration with face covered by a scarf, hood or mask,” the statement says.

The municipal bylaw also requires protest organizers to submit a protest itinerary to police. Anyone breaking the municipal rules is subject to a fine of up to $500.

 

Bärlüer

I've just realized that no mention has been made in these threads yet (I think...?) of Anarchopanda.

Anarchopanda has become something of an icon in the night demos. He's (?) participating in pretty much every single one of them.

Here he is:

He distributes hugs with liberality, including to cops.

He's a balm for the revolutionary soul and a huggable beacon of hope.

Unionist

The feed is back. Cops had taken the CUTV technician down.

 

Unionist

Oh fuck, for no reason the cops are attacking the crowd now.

http://www.livestream.com/cutvmontreal

Tear gas.

The CUTV reporter just screamed - and the live feed stopped!

WTF is going on? She screamed less than a minute after the cops brutally took down a young woman to the ground who was standing and facing them when they formed a line across the road and advanced. The CUTV reporter compared her stance to Tienanmen Square. She was then either gassed or sprayed or physically attacked - no one seems to know yet which.

The Journal de Montréal are announcing that there were two arrests at the corner of University and Sherbrooke.

 

Unionist

Cops have announced that they will now disperse the 300 demonstrators at the front of the crowd, the "hard core", because of "criminal acts", and that the rest of the demo can continue in calm (even though the entire demo was declared "illegal" before it even got going, just after 8:30 pm!).

CUTV crew is running to get to the front of the crowd.

22:48 - another police announcement - they will proceed to dispersal of front of demo using "specialized forces" - and arrest those who don't disperse, because it's an illegal demo. They claim (as usual) that "projectiles" and "smoke bombs" have been thrown at police. They're at the corner of St-Laurent and Ontario. The demonstrators are on St-Laurent heading south. Several are facing cops with their hands up in the air.

22:51 - now it seems the demonstrators have turned to head north - avoid clash with cops? Cops are now hassling the CUTV crew again, ordering them away from the front line.

23:00 - SQ riot squad has joined the city police.

23:12 - Back at Parc Émilie-Gamelin. Cops are attacking sections of the crowd, seemingly trying to divide it up.

23:15 - Police shouting that the demo is a "riot". They're clearing the street, saying anyone who stays in the street will be arrested and detained until at least Monday afternoon.

 

 

Freedom 55

Unionist wrote:

23:15 - Police shouting that the demo is a "riot". They're clearing the street, saying anyone who stays in the street will be arrested.

 

And until Monday afternoon, right?

[cross-posted]

Unionist

23:30 - CUTV has just been doing a great interview with our own medic, [I'm not giving his name - he's been saying naughty things about cops and provocateurs - not sure if speech is still legal here... Anyway some of you will know who he is]. He gave a lot of good tactical assessment, saying students need to be better organized (communications during demo, not taking dark or empty streets, watching for people near the front who "smell bad", egging others on - using protection against gas and irritants if you want to be near the front - etc.).

 

Unionist

[url=http://youtu.be/bWkNIMr2-_Y]This YouTube video[/url] is a 4 minute extract from the CUTV coverage which shows the gratuitous attack by the riot cops, and then (starting around 2:45 mark) the events described in post #94 above, ending with the attack on the CUTV camera person and the cutting off of the transmission.

ETA: Ok, the live stream is back as of 23:52.

 

NDPP

It's ironic that here in TO we've just heard a report on how outrageous police behaviour was during the G8 Summit and yet here we go again with the same fascist palooka tactics down the road in Montreal, again, under the auspices of very dodgy and dubious 'law'. Clearly the PTB are upping the ante in terms of use of force and coercion - we are going to have to fight to regain civil liberties supposedly secured decades ago, and put some serious resources into curtailing escalating abuse and violence by our police forces. I understand that a couple of the Quebec student leaders addressed the Marxism 2012 gathering in Toronto earlier today. I wasn't there but  I hope it was recorded and if so, we might have an opportunity to see it.

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