Time for Gilles Duceppe to retire - again

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Time for Gilles Duceppe to retire - again

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Unionist

Duceppe has intervened, yet again, to suggest "mediation", as if that's some brilliant new proposal that no one has thought of before. But his real message is one of division and capitulation. He takes what he thinks are two negotiating positions that the two sides reached before impasse, and says, "it's not worth disturbing social peace" for such a small amount of money.

That's what Charest and the entire wealthy elite have been saying about the "50 cents per day" gap all along.

He then praises FECQ and FEUQ for acting "responsibly", and says that CLASSE "doesn't negotiate, they demand". Wow, how immature of them.

This message, too, is exactly the "divide and rule" attempt of Charest, Beauchamp, and then Courchesne, which failed miserably when they could get the three groups to talk separately.

He puts the icing on the cake by attacking Amir Khadir, and CLASSE, for entertaining the notion of "civil disobedience".

He then says that if the government had simply indexed everything to the cost of living all along, the students would have shut the fuck up and society could live in peace.

His ugly words are the thoughts of Pauline Marois, but she is temporarily unable politically to express them.

Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois replied by quipping, "I thought he had retired".

So had we.

Gilles, get with the program, or turn off the TV.

With allies like this, why would the students need the riot squad?

Bärlüer

Duceppe is continuing his seemingly unending descent into the depths of doltishness. I'd feel a tinge of sadness about it if he weren't being such an asshole these days.

love is free love is free's picture

hard to tell what his game is here, he could be going for that elder statesmen thing that big-time politicians in quebec like to try after they've left the arena, someone the media consults on all issues and whose opinions own outsized weight in what concerns media consideration.  or maybe he's thinking that he's still young enough to shoot for the premiership.  could be that people just go to him and he gives his honest opinion, it's hard to go from being relevant to being irrelevant.  it's pretty flattering when the media asks you for your opinion on everything, hard resist giving it to them.

Unionist

love is free wrote:

hard to tell what his game is here,

I think it's similar to Marois's "game". They can't control this movement, they're not sure where it's headed, they're afraid that they can't satisfy its aims, even if the PQ takes power. The only thought they can muster is to somehow derive some electoral advantage, even if it means dividing and suppressing it. Sure, Duceppe may be shooting for some personal aims here, but his methods uncoincidentally converge with the needs of the right wing of the PQ - so ultimately, I think the explanation has to be political.

It's no accident that so much fire is directed by the Liberals, the PQ, the CAQ, Duceppe, the police, against Québec solidaire and Amir Khadir in particular. It's about fear. QS has "risked" a lot by siding so consistently with the students. There's an urgent need by the state and its allies to discredit them.

 

bekayne

Unionist wrote:

love is free wrote:

hard to tell what his game is here,

It's no accident that so much fire is directed by the Liberals, the PQ, the CAQ, Duceppe, the police, against Québec solidaire and Amir Khadir in particular. It's about fear. QS has "risked" a lot by siding so consistently with the students. There's an urgent need by the state and its allies to discredit them.

Isn't it in the Liberals interest to build QS up, rather than discredit them?

 

Unionist

No. Your question presumes that political parties have no interest other than to win elections. In fact, they have very concrete constituencies (people) whose interests they serve, or try to, or are expected to. The Liberal Party can no more tolerate a strong left wing adversary, linked to social movements, than Harper could have worked to build up the NDP as a counterweight to the Liberal Party.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I was reading that the Quebec protests now have their sights on Harper.

Eyes may have been on him the whole time but now the MSM is reporting this.

Thing is,Charest is nothing...He's just a little mosquito that can be easily swatted...Harper on the other hand,is a sewer rat that would require a large stick.

And if the protesters set their sights on Harpo,will this hurt or help King Stephen in Quebec?

Unionist

alan smithee wrote:

I was reading that the Quebec protests now have their sights on Harper.

That's the first I've heard of that. Haven't seen that at all, anywhere. Why would Harper be the target?

 

love is free love is free's picture

disinformation in the canadian media.  honestly, people shouldn't read anything published in any of the canadian newspapers about anything to do with quebec.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

love is free wrote:

disinformation in the canadian media.  honestly, people shouldn't read anything published in any of the canadian newspapers about anything to do with quebec.

or the rest of the world.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Unionist wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

I was reading that the Quebec protests now have their sights on Harper.

That's the first I've heard of that. Haven't seen that at all, anywhere. Why would Harper be the target?

 

 

Reported here;

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120611/mtl_economy_pro...

And why wouldn't Harper be targeted?...As I said,Charest is nothing..If you think he's bad,what does that say about Harper..Or do you believe Johnny Small Potato is worse than King Stephen?

 

North Star

If the protestors were all waving PQ & BQ signs, Duceppe would probably shut up. Probably due to his political education in Maoism, he's suspicious of any mass movement that the vanguard parties of the Quebecois Nation (PQ & BQ) can't control. Whereas Marois has outed herself in Gilles' eyes as an opportunist.

Unionist

alan smithee wrote:

Unionist wrote:

alan smithee wrote:

I was reading that the Quebec protests now have their sights on Harper.

That's the first I've heard of that. Haven't seen that at all, anywhere. Why would Harper be the target?

 

 

Reported here;

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120611/mtl_economy_pro...

And why wouldn't Harper be targeted?...As I said,Charest is nothing..If you think he's bad,what does that say about Harper..Or do you believe Johnny Small Potato is worse than King Stephen?

 

It's a protest against the Economic Forum of the Americas. The CTV headline writer got a little bit mixed up. Please let's read past the mixed-up headline.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

It's open season on the QS by the propagandist anglo MSM.

First,he was smeared for allegedly comapring himself with Martin Luther King,then the police arrested his daughter,now the MSM has released a painting Amir Khadir had hanging in his house depicting Khadir standing over an image of a 'dead Jean Charest'.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120612/mtl_khadir_post...

The poster is based on a painting called 'Liberty leading the people'

It looks like the anglo PLQ sympathizing MSM are on a mission to kill the QS -- the one party that supports the student uprising.

 

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love is free love is free's picture

i'm actually starting to worry a little that amir is being harmed by all this negative attention, the average person on the plateau wants to vote left, but not for a crazy person like the way the media has been protraying him.  the only thing left is to invent some sort of tie to islamism.

KenS
KenS

I guess it fits, strategically at least.

Duceppe could have had the credibility and political capital that goes with being a retired politician 'statesman'.

But since he has willfully torched that, he's only still useful to the PQ/BQ machine as an attack dog.

autoworker autoworker's picture

...waiting for the next hairnet photo-op...or was that Marois' casserole moment?

robbie_dee

Sour grapes.

Brachina

Damn ninja'd. i posted that link in the election thread.

Here's another http://www.nationalpost.com/m/search/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2...