Student strike - nightmare of the 1% (#14)

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The Bill 78 challenge in fact died when the law was essentially repealed.

I have no clue as to the status of the P-6 by-law challenge. I was in fact asking myself the same question. I'll make some inquiries.

There's also an ongoing (constitutional) challenge to section 500.1 of the Highway Safety Code, which has been used a lot for arrests made during Printemps érable. (Originally, this was a provision added [by the PQ, I believe...] to prevent road blockages in far-away regions — especially by First Nations groups. It remained pretty much unused, if I'm not mistaken, until these recent events. I encourage people to do some Googling for more info on the subject.) The proceedings in that case will continue during the Fall.


A clip from Louis-Jean Cormier, a reflection on the 2012 Spring: Walking alone along many stretches we had done in huge contingents, interspersed later on with civil rights, antiwar and labour protests (I think the last one is of women in the Soviet revolution). Beautiful, only criticism is that all the old film clips except the last were from the US. Why no mass protests here such as the 1972 common strike or the marches against the wage freeze? Why nothing from mai 68? A beautiful clip in any event.

Québec solidaire is calling on the Marois government to reinstate the right to demonstrate and prevent mass arrests:

But we will also have to take action about that. This is an outrage.

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'There is no right to protest': Montreal police deny Charter rights

"This is approaching absurdist comedy," tweeted Montreal Gazette reporter Christopher Curtis Friday night, trapped in a police kettle from which Montreal's finest inexplicably refused to release him as his deadline approached.

"Did they really, actually arrest Anarchopanda????" replied well known Québécoise pundit Josée Legault.

Curtis never replied, no doubt caught up in extricating himself from police custody, so allow me to do so now: yes Josée, they really, actually did. Just call him Arrestopanda. At night's end the tally ran something like this: one panda, several rabbits, a few dozen journos and almost three hundred dull normals cuffed, processed and slapped with $654 fines. This after being held for hours in the cold kettles Montreal police formed around them....

 Tim McSorley for Media Co-op


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The face of Canadian fascism. We saw it in Vancouver in the led up to  the Olympics. I have been saying for years on this site that there is no right to protest in this country.  You can protest until you are told not too and then you are subject to arrest.  We live in a delusion of democracy.  Every four years you get a vote for the next dictator.

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A Very Different Day of Action(includes video)

The police continued with a recent trend last night: breaking up protests before they even get to start.

Around 300 people set out from Parc Émilie Gamelin Friday night for a demonstration meant to mark the one-year anniversary of the massive March 22 student protest last spring.

Service de police de la Ville de Montréal officers in riot gear kettled protesters at the intersection of de Maisonneuve Blvd. and St. Timothée St., announcing the protest had been terminated.

This was just 30 minutes after the demonstration had begun, with failure to submit an itinerary as required by bylaw P-6 cited as reason for police intervention.

Riot squads then performed sweeps of adjacent roads, corralling those on the street to be processed and fined.

Meanwhile, about 100 people were trapped in two kettles—many for over two hours. Police processed the detainees on Société de transport de Montréal busses and and sealed off the kettle area with orange tape.

A few dozen officers then drove back to Parc Émilie Gamelin and performed a sweep, dispersing those at the park.

Around 7:40 p.m., protesters began to be released from the kettle area, after being fined $637 each for violating bylaw P-6.

One of the first protesters to be released, Richard Renshaw told The Link that he had been shaken by his ordeal.

“It has an impact […] it gives you a bad taste in your mouth,” he said.

Around 8 p.m., between 10 and 20 people began chanting protest slogans near the corner of de Maisonneuve Blvd. and Wolfe St., prompting police to charge the area.

One member told Link reporters that her friend had been pushed to the ground and tripped over by a police officer, then taken away.

At 9:40 p.m., the SPVM announced they had arrested over 200 people....


Editorial On Brutal Repression by the SPVM

It began as most Anti-Police Brutality protests do.

Demonstrators grew in numbers at a meeting place on March 15, this year facing the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal station at Place-des-Arts. There was heavy police presence, there were some people wearing masks and others distributing pamphlets. The usual chants of “No justice, no peace, fuck the police!” filled the air.

But that’s when things took a new turn—police moving in to block off all exits from the square. A handful of people were violently pulled from the crowd and arrested before anything happened....


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Photos from March 22 Day of Action


So, I can now confirm that the P-6 challenge (helmed by Anarchopanda [him?/her?/it?]self) will be heard in October. (At least that's what I heard on the radio—Anarchopanda [him?/her?/it?]self) was being interviewed.)

That said, I think that the political fight is as important—if not more—than the legal challenge.

On that note, I strongly recommend reading this short note on P-6 and the right to demonstrate published today by the Association des juristes progressistes.

Québec solidaire and other people are also putting pressure on the PQ to ask Montréal and Québec City to abrogate its by-laws restricting the right to demonstrate. While the PQ was decrying the untolerable restrictions of the former Bill 78, it is now silent (or even approbative) of the stronger restrictions on the right to demonstrate that are imposed by the P-6 by-law.

It is also important to push the municipal representatives. Both Projet Montréal and Vision Montréal had voted against P-6 last summer. Now that Union Montréal has imploded, there is an opportunity to seize to step up and repeal P-6.

EDIT: here's a more complete rendition of the same Presse canadienne story linked to above.


Thank you, Bärlüer. I agree about the political fight being necessary, but I worry about making it an electoral issue, for two reasons: 1. If P-6 breaches Charter rights, it shouldn't be a popularity contest as to whether it's repealed or not. 2. If it becomes an electoral issue municipally, I can cynically envision the wrong kind of political calculations being made, polls showing the wrong kind of opinions, etc.

Best would be if the province tells the municipalities what to do on this one. But I fear the moment slipped away since last September. And the student front seems more fractured than ever. And P-6, on its face, is an attack against everyone, including potentially picket lines. Mind you, I've faced the anti-émeute on picket lines and in demos, and they never seemed to need a bylaw as a pretext.

What should be done, folks?



Sounds like checkmate to me.  Mass protest has become little more than opportunities for mass repression.  Frankly this notion about the right to protest in a democracy that continues to be circulated as a truth is irresponsible.  It places the unwitting in this regard into dangerous situations.


So you advocate mass suicide?

We have to fight this; the question is how.


Glen Beck used to do that a lot.  Facts are presented by stating something preposterous in the form of a question.  Few people would contemplate doing what appears necessary under the circumstances, which is a mass drop out from the education system.  They wouldn't have to do anything or gather anywhere in protest.  Just say home and tweet about it.  Spread the joy.  Italian feminists in the 70s refused procreation, which threatened to withhold from the State an entire generation of workers.


Well, we did that in Québec too - Québec's birthrate dropped from one of the highest in the world to one of the lowest. At one point I think we were the lowest - the other extremely low ones were also in countries once under the heavy thumb of the Church: Italy and Spain.

Still, collective action is necessary and so is education. We can get a lot of education in less centralised ways, due to modern technology, but some programmes still require specialised equipment and hands-on training (I'm referring to skilled trades as much as to medicine) and all need live exchange amongst human beings.

The last thing Québec needs is a fall in educational levels, whether in secondary schools or post-secondary universities and colleges.


This is the ugly face of the PQ:

[url= defends bylaw on municipal protests[/url]

The NDP, of course, is silent as the grave, because the Charter of Rights and Freedoms must be of municipal jurisdiction or something.

Once they seize power, they will restore democracy throughout Canada.

But right now, best to shut the fuck up.



NDPP wrote:

"Canada's social democratic party, the NDP, has proclaimed itself 'neutral' in the struggle between Quebec's students and the provincial Liberal government and has remained mum on Bill 78 - draconian legislation that criminalizes the four month old student strike and places sweeping restrictions on the right to demonstrate anywhere in Quebec over any issue...This is preposterous."

Keith Jones is out to lunch. He mentions nothing of the string of federal Liberal governments that cut tens of billions of dollars from health care and education transfers to the provinces since 1993. Why so quiet, Jones?

Of course, Jones knows full well that the Liberals are directly responsible for cutting $5 billion dollars in core funding for post-secondary ed by 1995. None of that core funding has been replaced. So WHY DOES JONES SAY NOTHING ABOUT CHAREST'S PQ LIBRANOS lack of support for the federal Liberanos cuts to PSE funding over the years? It doesn't follow, we know. "Groan"

Is Jones schilling for the federal Liberal Party against the effective opposition NDP in Ottawa? I think he is.

Mr Jones is far too soft on the Libranos, that other wolf in Ottawa that his bitten the asses of the working class in this country time and time again without fail. No thank you, mr jones, no thank you. We're not buyin what yer sellin. Not today, thanks.


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abnormal wrote:

So as someone that regularly receives masses of unsolicited resumes from students (a significant perctentage of which come from US schools - Ivy League and Top Ten) is this supposed to make me want to hire students from Quebec schools?

As someone who is in a position to receive masses of unsolicited resumes, surely you are aware that it's a violation of human rights codes to discriminate in hiring based on political views, and dumb to brag about doing so on the internet.

Sorry but just saw this.  First who said anything about not hiring anyone based on political beliefs?  I just asked a question as to whether or not this should make me enthusiastic about hiring someone from a Quebec school.  And since we regularly decline all applicants that take 5 years to complete a 4 year degree it would seem that this may well be a moot point.




abnormal, that is disgusting classism. I worked my way through university and it took me more than 5 years for the first degree - I had excellent marks, that wasn't the problem. It was something called money, or rather the lack of it, or of relatives that had any.


abnormal wrote:
And since we regularly decline all applicants that take 5 years to complete a 4 year degree it would seem that this may well be a moot point.

Do you bother to ask them why they took five years instead of four, or do you jump to exclusion right away? They could have had a row with mummy or daddy and were cutoff trust fund. Ya never know what hardships they may have endured.


That's an excellent point, lagatta.  Hiring money is no guarantee of quality. Democracy is supposed to include transparency and accountability. Democratic process is more than sifting through a bunch of resumes and weeding out applicants based on superficial criteria such as the poor example above. Unfortunately it happens all too often in Canada.

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Are you in Canada? Because if you use that kind of blanket refusal then you have likely discriminated against many individuals based on numerous of the enumerated grounds under our human rights codes.

Also I would love to know what your company is so that I can be sure to never buy any or your goods or services.

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A new round of struggle is opening in Quebec for the right to protest and free speech


It began as a quiet event with no speeches and minimal coordination. Banners and hand-written signs conveyed the main message -- no to police violence and no to the increasingly standard practice by Montreal police of threatening and forcibly shutting down any protest action by students and young people.

Scores of police dressed in riot gear and mounted on horses cast a shadow over the event. At the hour the event was originally announced to end, 9 p.m., the special, police loudspeaker vehicle pulled up. It is white pickup truck with sound equipment on the back. Police opened the speaker cover and began to make a pronouncement, immediately drowned out by shouting from the crowd.

This writer assumed that the police were declaring the vigil “illegal.” But lo and behold, in a moment of grace perhaps reflecting that the date was Good Friday (in reality, reflecting the harsh public condemnation that recent police actions have prompted), the police declared the event to be “legal”! Which immediately prompted catcalls from the crowd to the effect, “We don’t care what you decide!” (the crowd’s chant was considerably coarser).

About 100 people then proceeded to occupy the adjacent intersection on Ste. Catherine St., downtown Montreal’s main thoroughfare. Again seemingly revealing their vulnerable public relations standing, the police stood by. In the end, there were no arrests that evening. The vigil/become street occupation ended near 10 p.m....


BREAKING NEWS: @frogsarelovely has just been acquitted of the fraudulent charges brought against her! The Crown had no evidence to present... duhhhh!!

Background, from rabble's very own Ethan Cox last August:

[url= strike stalwart and citizen journalist arrested, held for nine hours[/url]


In the wee hours of this morning news broke on Twitter that a protester going by the Twitter handle of @frogsarelovely had been arrested. Her real name is Cécile Riel, a 55 year old Montreal resident.

Riel is a popular and well respected supporter of the student strike, who has attended virtually every demo since its beginning. She live tweets from every protest, providing invaluable first-hand updates and information for those unable to attend.

She is the very definition of an engaged citizen journalist, using new media to report on the demonstrations in real time for a global audience.

Her last tweet on the night of the 23rd came at roughly 9 p.m., and noted that there were fewer than 20 people at the demonstration.

She was arrested shortly after, and held until just after six this morning. After nine hours of detention she was finally released with a promise to appear in court on the 7th of September. According to a spokesperson for the SPVM who spoke to rabble, she is being charged with uttering death threats towards a police officer on the 22nd. This charge comes with a maximum sentence of five years in prison.


The authorities will no doubt be mindful of the fact that May 68 in France began with student strikes, and was eventually brought to an end through a combination of state repression, along with cooperation from the Unions and Communists.  Authorities in Quebec seem to have a head start on de Gaulle in terms of repression of dissent from the get go.

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Hundreds of Thousands March for 'Free Education' in Chile

'Education should be equal for everyone, it should be free — we all have the same rights.

The Chilean student movement roared back to life on Thursday, with organizers and media outlets reporting that hundreds of thousands of people joined students in the nation's streets calling for a free and quality education for all.

Peaceful marches took place in nearly a dozen cities across the country.

In the capital city of Santiago, a huge demonstration—estimated at over 150,000—held a jovial and energetic march through the city which culminated at the city's landmark Estación Mapocho. As the larger group dispersed, some protesters were met with tear gas and water cannons as police forces clashed with smaller splinter groups from the larger crowd....

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Coalition Against P-6 (Association des juristes progressistes FB page)

Association des juristes progressistes                  April 15, 2013

Original French Text:


Today, the AJP is launching the Coalition Against P-6. Several organizations and associations have joined the campaign initiated by the AJP to win the repeal of of bylaw P-6 which, in our opinion, has no place in Montreal or anywhere else in the country. A press conference will take place on April 22 at 10am to ask elected officials to repeal this bylaw which, like law 12, is clearly “liberticidal”.

The following organizations and associations have now joined the coalition:

La Ligue des Droits et Libertés du Québec
Mouvement Action-Chômage de Montréal
La Fédération des femmes du Québec

Follow us this week for news of other associations and organizations that will join the coalition.

Lets reestablish the right to protest in Montreal. Now.

The Coalition Against P-6.


Over 100 demonstrated this evening in Longueuil, on the south shore of Montréal, where there are no bylaws prohibiting masks or requiring giving an itinerary to cops. They demonstrated against bylaw P-6, but chiefly against the anti-student, anti-poor, and other austerity measures of the PQ government. The fascist cops were there in enormous numbers and arrested 7 demonstrators at last report.


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Police intervene to subdue a demonstration of parents (Le Devoir)

A citizen assembly aiming to sensitize drivers to the security of the children attending the Saint-Pierre-Claver school, located at the intersection of two major arteries in the Plateau-Mont-Royal, ended unexpectedly Thursday morning when the police intervened by virtue of municipal bylaw P-6. The assembly, that was attended by several elected officials, ended abruptly at around 8am, coinciding with the beginning of classes. 

According to Marianne Giguère, a mother who is very involved in matters of security in the vicinity of the school, around six police officers in cars and on bicycles announced to the 80-odd parents and children who were crossing from one corner of the street to the other, all while respecting the street lights, that the demonstration was illegal by virtue of P-6. The intervention was even more surprising to the parents because the community agent assigned to the school had been advised about the awareness action and had already been onsite since 7:30am....

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Mistrust of police and justice has increased (La Presse)

Besmirched freedom of expression, excessive use of force, police impunity, political profiling… The bond of trust between a segment of the population and law enforcement and police was broken over the Spring of 2012, according to a new analysis report obtained by La Presse. 

The 48-page document entitled Repression, Discrimination and Student Strike was jointly drafted by the Ligue des droits et libertés, the Association des juristes progressistes and the Association pour use solidarité syndicale étudiante (ASSÉ). It will be made public on Monday during a press conference in Montréal. 

The three organizations have collected 274 testimonies from individuals who claim to have been the object of either intimidation or police brutality, of detention or accusation, or who have suffered discrimination because they wore a red square, throughout the maple spring’s student uprising. 

The authors are worried. “It is extremely dangerous for freedom of expression or for the right to peaceful assembly, that this oppressive tendency towards the criminalization [transl. note: in French, there is the term “judiciarisation” that has no English equivalent, that implies a social phenomenon of appealing to the judicial system to solve problems that could potentially be solved otherwise. If you know of a fitting English word, please email us!] of the social contestation be a permanent fixture here in Quebec.”....

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You, Madame Marois (Voir)

The Marois government is putting into place a “Special commission to examine the events of the spring of 2012”. The objective, you have surely guessed, is not to respond to demands for an inquiry on police brutality, but rather to see that a revolt of this scale never happens again....

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Maple Spring: The government dismally misses the boat (L’actualité)

Who’s afraid of the police? The question, though brutal, is however inevitable. 

Yet how can we not ask it while the Marois government swaps an independent commission of inquiry on police behaviour for a special commission of examination on the events of the spring of 2012

It’s timid and most likely useless. 

In fact, this commission cannot examine the “process of police ethics review” already managed by the police forces themselves. The topic is however quite central to the thread of events during the “Maple Spring”.

The Minister of Public Safety, Stéphane Bergeron, even took the time to specify that he “remains persuaded that the vast majority of police officers in Quebec acted with the required professionalism given the circumstances”. But who ever said that a “majority” of police officers was required for power to be abused? The police follow their superiors’ orders. What were these orders and to what ends were they given? That’s where the real object of an independent inquiry lies....


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Quebec's movements for social transformation: An interview with historian Sean Mills

Stefan Christoff: Your book The Empire Within conveys moments from Quebec history often untold in mainstream political narratives in Canada. What importance do you feel there is today for progressives in Canada, within the context of a Conservative majority government, to develop deeper understandings of Quebec social movements?

Sean Mills: I think that the history of Quebec's social movements is often deeply misunderstood and reduced, especially in the English-Canadian media, to a singular logic. They are often seen to be no more than subsidiaries of the broader nationalist or sovereigntist movement in Quebec. It's true, of course, that one can't discount the importance of nationalism to the overall intellectual and political climate of Quebec, either today or in the 1960s. But what struck me in writing The Empire Within was the incredible richness and diversity of political and intellectual debates, and the impossibility of using easy classifications or simplistic formulas to understand the period. When thinking about the 1960s, I therefore came to realize that it's crucial to recall the many different currents of thought that influenced Quebec, from anti-colonialism to feminism to the power of ideas generated by the American Civil Rights/Black Power movement. I think that for progressives of today, especially in a context of a Conservative majority, we can learn from movements of the past about the need for rigorous debate and serious intellectual reflection on the Left, and that this reflection and debate, rather than weakening the movement, is an important ingredient to giving it strength and vibrancy.

SC: Looking beyond simplistic notions of Quebec nationalism, could you highlight ways your research and archival work illustrate Quebec nationalist groups and activism a generation ago within a global context of anti-colonial struggles?

 SM: In my mind, this question cuts to the very core of how we understand and think about history. Until recently, the dominant paradigm for understanding history was through the prism of the nation. By placing past historical events exclusively into the rubric of national understandings of history, we've been missing much of the complexity and richness of movements in the past. What I tried to do in The Empire Within is explore the broader global context in which Montreal's social movements emerged. When we're attentive to this larger global context, the importance of the decolonization of former European empires becomes evident. In Montreal, the theory generated by movements of global decolonization -- for example, the works of Frantz Fanon, Aimé Césaire, Albert Memmi -- was absolutely central to the alternative worlds that Montreal radicals imagined. But radical writers and thinkers during the 1960s not only borrowed from this theory, they also adapted it and changed it to suit their own particular circumstances.

Fantastic interview. Bravo Stefan!


I've been meaning to report about this - but thankfully Tim McSorley wrote it up very well for rabble:

[url= organize to support Denis Poitras, Montreal's 'movement lawyer'[/url]


The Montreal lawyer who has become synonymous with the fight against police repression during last spring's student strike in Quebec is facing a whole new battle.

In early July, Denis Poitras declared personal bankruptcy. He was immediately disbarred, as per the rules of the Barreau du Québec, the province's professional organisation for lawyers.

He is now working to regain the right to practice the work that he loves. He isn't doing it alone though: on August 5, a fundraising and support campaign was launched to help him raise the money needed to get him out of bankruptcy and back to work.



Another rabble exclusive: Katie Nelson is a 21-year-old Montréal-based activist, who is suing the police for "political profiling" of her during demonstrations.

[url= I'm suing the police: Montreal activist explains her groundbreaking Superior Court case [/url]



During the time the provincial liberals were in power and the student strike progressives rallied around the students. Now it appears by polling that everybody would the liberals again if there an election. Anybody from Quebec explain this disconnect? Thanks


[url= allows class action suit over May 23, 2012 mass arrests[/url]


On May 23, 2012, many thousands of peopel took to the streets to mark the 30th nightly demonstration. Around 1:00 am, a group of more than 500 was kettled by the municipal and provincial police at the corner of Saint-Denis and Sherbrooke. The demonstrators were then arrested and thrown into 17 Montréal transit buses. They each were given a $634 ticket for violating the municipal bylaw regarding illegal assemblies.

[My translation]


And from the Gazette, in English:

[url= action suit for mass arrests of students approved[/url]


In his motion, Lord alleges the protesters were detained for seven hours with their hands tied behind their backs and no access to water or washrooms.

Rieger described the police action as “harrowing” and “appalling.”

Lord stated he joined the march heading east on Ste. Catherine St. at about 10 p.m. because the Montreal police Twitter feed suggested the force was letting the march continue even though it contravened Bill 78, a special law restricting student protests.

He alleges that at 10:31 p.m., the police tweeted that if the demonstrators entered the Viger tunnel they would be arrested, and that the marchers obeyed.

But when the crowd marched south on St. Denis St., the police riot squad blocked the marchers.

Lord said he tried to leave the march by heading west on Sherbrooke St. but was blocked by police, who began throwing tear gas and pepper-spraying demonstrators and reporters.

He said he didn’t know what was going on because police allegedly never gave an order to disperse. About 500 people were rounded up, searched, handcuffed, loaded into a city bus and taken to a police station, the motion alleges.

The motion claims that one woman, unable to wait any longer for a toilet, urinated at the back door of the bus.

Lord said that at about 5 a.m. he had to pull down his pants with his hands still cuffed in order to urinate in the bus because police refused to take him to a toilet.

The motion also alleges that protesters were illegally searched and some suffered from health problems like heart disease or hypoglycemia, and that tight handcuffs cut off their blood circulation.

In his ruling, judge Marc-André Blanchard dismissed arguments by the city of Montreal that the allegations were frivolous and unfounded.



Public hearings begin today:

[url= examining maple spring protests is on-track: Hearings start Sept. 23 despite flak from student groups and police union[/url]

And true to Québec popcorn tradition, the hearings will be live online - though the link isn't working yet (and hearings start at 10 EDT), and I won't be able to watch. Maybe they'll be viewable later.



..wasn't sure where to put this. their backkkkk!!! showing us the way. love these students a whole bunch.

ASSÉ’s Combative Response to Austerity

Militant Quebec student union actively cultivating allies against neoliberalism

“Austerity is not our destiny,” said Association pour une solidarité syndicale étudiante (ASSÉ) co-spokesperson and finance secretary, Benjamin Gingras, who spoke to Concordia University students this week. ASSÉ explains that austerity is about “privatizing profits, socializing debt,” which results in the transfer of wealth from the majority to a wealthy few. On November 6th, Concordia students gathered to “Fight the Neoliberal Assault with ASSÉ.” This was just one of several visits that Quebec’s most militant student union has been making to institutions across the province with the aim of building momentum against austerity policies.   ASSÉ played a leading role in the Quebec student strike in 2011-2012. Now, the student organization is building bridges with other movements in an effort to create a nation-wide movement. It is participating in the Coalition against employment insurance reform, and has been helping the coalition’s in Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, and the Maritimes. They have been working in solidarity with the Idle No More movement, in an attempt to unite Indigenous, Quebec, and Canadian movements against corporate interests. ASSÉ has been pushing education as an important issue for the upcoming People’s Social Forum in 2014.  They are building bridges with other student associations and unions across Quebec. In March, ASSÉ is organizing a national protest as part of their national campaign against austerity....



ASSÉ advocates for what they call “combative syndicalism,” which means “taking a permanent power relationship with an adversary,”according to Gingras. Through mass participation and “combativity,” it seeks to be “an alternative to the more corporatist idea of what a student union should be,” a vision typically based on lobbying and closed-door negotiations.

..this is new.


[url='Maple Spring' commission releases report: Report makes 21 recommendations concerning police tactics[/url]

It's 450 pages long. Couillard claims they'll study it carefully, but he starts by repeating contemptuously what the Liberals said at the start, that this commission was politically motivated. The cops (their so-called "union" especially) have dismissed it scornfully, saying they had already adopted "best practices" for crushing peaceful demos by studying other countries, and they don't need anyone to tell them how to do their work.

ASSÉ (the student coalition that spearheaded the strike movement) had refused to participate in the commission's work, because it considered its mandate too narrow, and it had no power to compel witnesses. They've issued [url= measured statement[/url], on the one hand pointing out how the commission confirms the "portrait of horror" that emerged from police tactics and recommends the limitation or complete ban on certain weapons, an end to "kettling", and many other reforms. On the other hand, they deplore the interference in the affairs of student unions, such as the recommendation that strike votes be by secret ballot - a procedure which is quite alien to the open and member-driven culture of general assemblies. It also points out that there's nothing to oblige the government to adopt any of these recommendations. ASSÉ will participate in a separate People's Commission on Political Repression, which is upcoming this year.



Unfortyunately Unionist it is your approach to politics in Quebec that has lead to the current corrupt right-wing Liberal majority government Quebecers will have to endure over the next several years.

Thanks a lot. Frown


NorthReport wrote:

Unfortyunately Unionist it is your approach to politics in Quebec that has lead to the current corrupt right-wing Liberal majority government Quebecers will have to endure over the next several years.

Thanks a lot. Frown


So not cool. This thread has discussed how students and young people can revitalize resistance in the face of oppression (by the state and the market) and Unionist's post offers a strong progressive take on the issue. I really can't follow your argument, but to me it reads as if you think supporting strikes and direct action in the face of neoliberalism, police brutality and unjust laws only contributes to the status quo.

ETA: I mentioned students and young people, but of course that's too limited. I just wanted to emphasize where much of the energy and creativity were coming from, not to exclude the involvement of other organizations.


NorthReport wrote:

Unfortyunately Unionist it is your approach to politics in Quebec that has lead to the current corrupt right-wing Liberal majority government Quebecers will have to endure over the next several years.

Thanks a lot. Frown

NR, please, no personal attacks.


NorthReport, that is nonsense. I certainly don't agree with Unionist or anyone on all matters, but have no quarrel with anything he said above.

I heard the downright Pinochetist mouthings of the police union rep this afternoon, going on about "anarchists" who wanted to lead the student movement to some kind of ultraviolence (the so-called Black Block played a very minor role in anything then, and the neighbourhood assembly type of anarchists were peaceful and creative), and then, occult forces with a lot of money (aka trade union confederations) wanted to lead Québec into chaos. N'importe quoi.

Even after mai 68 there was a reactionary reflux. But its echoes have had a huge impact up to now.






lagatta wrote:

I certainly don't agree with Unionist or anyone on all matters, but have no quarrel with anything he said above.

That's odd. I agree with you on all matters. But thanks anyway.


GND spoke fairly well in response to this report. But Léo Bureau-Blouin, the sold-out traitor who deservedly got his ass handed to him in the April 7 election, was incapable of just supporting the students whom he purported to lead. I wish him great success in his studies to be a fucking lawyer.


Unionist wrote:

[url='Maple Spring' commission releases report: Report makes 21 recommendations concerning police tactics[/url]

Serge Ménard has been publicly deploring the response of the Liberal government and the police to his report - which he (convincingly) claims they haven't even read.

He's being interviewed right now on CBC Radio Noon (Mtl). I'll see if there's an audio link later.

ETA: Unfortunately I can't find a "permanent" link, but you can hear the item by going to [url=]this page[/url] and clicking on "Ménard defends Maple Spring report".


No surprise that Lysiane Gagnon has called the report a beautiful fiction or some such rot.

Unionist, I generally agree with you - it is normal that we should have some disagreements.


author of report says he was disregarded:

« Je trouve ça épouvantable. L’ont-ils au moins lu, le rapport ? » a lancé Serge Ménard, qui a dirigé la commission d’examen du printemps 2012, comme pour se vider le coeur. L’avocat et ex-ministre de la Sécurité publique est déçu. Déçu et un peu amer. Se confiant au Devoir, il s’est dit « attristé » de la réception de son rapport, qui a été torpillé par les libéraux et critiqué par certains policiers.


Surtout, il ne prend pas qu’on dise qu’il avait un parti pris politique au moment de commencer les travaux de la commission mise sur pied par les péquistes. « Pourquoi détruire ma crédibilité dans l’opinion publique ? » a-t-il dit, la voix empreinte d’émotion, laissant parfois échapper quelques sacres bien sentis. « Je comprends que quand les libéraux disent ça et que la seule raison qu’ils donnent est que j’étais un ministre [du Parti] québécois, il faudrait qu’ils réalisent qu’ils s’excluent pour l’avenir de toute commission. »



[url= cop suspended for a day after striking reporter with baton in 2012[/url]

Riley Sparks, covering a protest for Concordia's The Link student paper, was gratuitously attacked and beaten on March 7, 2012 at a Metro station.

You wanna hear some irony?

Here's an article by Riley Sparks, six weeks earlier, about the police killing of Farshad Mohammadi at a Metro station. The title tells it all:

[url=]Too Quick To Crucify[/url]

It took almost no time for Montreal’s anti-police activists to make cheap politics of the tragic Jan. 6 police shooting of Farshad Mohammadi.

Riley is working for the Montreal Gazette now. I guess that's why he's still saying nice things about the cops. Even after they tried to beat some sense into him.

No word yet when the thousands of other student targets of kettling, assault, maiming, and arbitrary arrest can expect to see some justice.